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[Photon]

want Eq made at 300 ? Or higher ?

650
It's pip free.
They sold hundreds if not thousands.

Janoshik Analytical

I brew mine at 750 now.
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[Photon]

After going through @AllGoodThings long-term storage thread, it got me thinking.

Years ago, I brewed wine and honey (mead) as a hobby. One thing I learned pretty quickly is that wine and mead absolutely improve with age, but not just by being tossed in a bottle and forgotten.

There’s a reason you hear that distinctive pop when a cork releases. Commercially, there’s often a small amount of inert gas (like argon) occupying the headspace. That gas helps reduce oxygen exposure over time.

Because the real downfall in long-term storage isn’t time itself, it’s oxygen. Oxidation leads to degradation.

So while digging through old gear in the garage, I came across my old argon gas regulator and had a thought...What if?

What if, instead of leaving oils in small standard vials with normal air headspace, you transferred them into larger 30 mL, 50 mL, even 100 mL sterile vials, and displaced the air in the headspace with argon gas?
You can certainly do this with 10ml vials as well, just don't blow the topper.

In theory...
Argon is inert
It’s heavier than air
It displaces oxygen
It reduces oxidation in other applications (wine, mead, food storage)
So the question becomes If oxygen is the long term enemy of stability, could inert gas displacement meaningfully extend shelf life in stored oils?

Essentially like regulating the pressure on a new HGH vial, you would insert one pin to purge, while pinning the argon line and displacing oxygen. Of course you would need some PPE, a new sterile vial and measure pressure first while probably blowing a few toppers. But hey if you're holding that much stock long-term this is a minor addition. Even small hand held can editions exist.

Just thinking out loud here.

I'm going to shut my brain off now. It's going to force me to try this.

I feel you guys are going abit far with this storage thing..
But it works yes.

One needle in, bubble through the oil and one needle out.
Argon does dissolve a lil in the oil.

There's a guy who was talking about buying vacuumed vials at 0.3 a pop from India, you could just do that from CN and it'd be a much easier experience.

or..just get one of these..

Vacuum Glass Bottle 1000mL with 28mm Stopper Baxter 1A8504- 1 Each

www.medonthego.com

They have smaller bottles i believe, i dont remember. 250/500

 

[BALLISTIC]

I feel you guys are going abit far with this storage thing..
But it works yes.

One needle in, bubble through the oil and one needle out.
Argon does dissolve a lil in the oil.

There's a guy who was talking about buying vacuumed vials at 0.3 a pop from India, you could just do that from CN and it'd be a much easier experience.

or..just get one of these..

Vacuum Glass Bottle 1000mL with 28mm Stopper Baxter 1A8504- 1 Each

www.medonthego.com

They have smaller bottles i believe, i dont remember. 250/500

That was just my mind rambling on.

 

[Chadlitee]

It's pip free.
They sold hundreds if not thousands.

Janoshik Analytical

I brew mine at 750 now.
1/0

i heard sigma was bad now that test is from 2024 they still gtg?

 

[nobu156]

After going through @AllGoodThings long-term storage thread, it got me thinking.

Years ago, I brewed wine and honey (mead) as a hobby. One thing I learned pretty quickly is that wine and mead absolutely improve with age, but not just by being tossed in a bottle and forgotten.

There’s a reason you hear that distinctive pop when a cork releases. Commercially, there’s often a small amount of inert gas (like argon) occupying the headspace. That gas helps reduce oxygen exposure over time.

Because the real downfall in long-term storage isn’t time itself, it’s oxygen. Oxidation leads to degradation.

So while digging through old gear in the garage, I came across my old argon gas regulator and had a thought...What if?

What if, instead of leaving oils in small standard vials with normal air headspace, you transferred them into larger 30 mL, 50 mL, even 100 mL sterile vials, and displaced the air in the headspace with argon gas?
You can certainly do this with 10ml vials as well, just don't blow the topper.

In theory...
Argon is inert
It’s heavier than air
It displaces oxygen
It reduces oxidation in other applications (wine, mead, food storage)
So the question becomes If oxygen is the long term enemy of stability, could inert gas displacement meaningfully extend shelf life in stored oils?

Essentially like regulating the pressure on a new HGH vial, you would insert one pin to purge, while pinning the argon line and displacing oxygen. Of course you would need some PPE, a new sterile vial and measure pressure first while probably blowing a few toppers. But hey if you're holding that much stock long-term this is a minor addition. Even small hand held can editions exist.

Just thinking out loud here.

I'm going to shut my brain off now. It's going to force me to try this.

Wasn’t this discussed at length in that thread?

 

[BALLISTIC]

Wasn’t this discussed at length in that thread?

Yes, but I actually have all the equipment from home brewing. I would have to design a needle system to introduce. But I have a digital pressure regulator that if used correctly would essentially fill a 10ml to pressure then auto off.

My concern is gas escape. I don't have a way to measure that or ensure that any puncture to a self healing or not stopper would actually withhold gas long-term.

Honestly I just get bored my man.

 

[Andrewthatguy]

Yes, but I actually have all the equipment from home brewing. I would have to design a needle system to introduce. But I have a digital pressure regulator that if used correctly would essentially fill a 10ml to pressure then auto off.

My concern is gas escape. I don't have a way to measure that or ensure that any puncture to a self healing or not stopper would actually withhold gas long-term.

Honestly I just get bored my man.

Was home brewing really hard to learn? It’s kind of been in the back of my mind for a while.