AllGoodThings
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With the times we're possibly heading into, I'm personally more concerned about order maximum limits than I am order minimums.
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Finding it is the challenge. Don't see it linked in the op or on the first page anywhere.
Connor 25257
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You can thank tRuMp for that
Ghoul
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What?
Former Biden Official Says President Will Issue De Minimis Proposal Before End of Year
A former homeland security and emergency response official said de minimis reform is among President Joe Biden's topmost priorities during the last 100 days of his administration.
“This dramatic increase we’ve seen over the past bunch of years in the volume of cargo coming in under the [de minimis] exemptions has just kind of created this very large universe that’s extraordinarily challenging for CBP to deal with,” Manning said.
"The president’s executive framework for stemming the free flow of these shipments—which experts say contain fentanyl precursors and goods produced with forced labor—would bar certain shipments subject to other trade actions from utilizing de minimis. "
AllGoodThings
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Absolutely. De minimis ending was a huge part of the equation.What?
Former Biden Official Says President Will Issue De Minimis Proposal Before End of Year
A former homeland security and emergency response official said de minimis reform is among President Joe Biden's topmost priorities during the last 100 days of his administration.www.yahoo.com
“This dramatic increase we’ve seen over the past bunch of years in the volume of cargo coming in under the [de minimis] exemptions has just kind of created this very large universe that’s extraordinarily challenging for CBP to deal with,” Manning said.
"The president’s executive framework for stemming the free flow of these shipments—which experts say contain fentanyl precursors and goods produced with forced labor—would bar certain shipments subject to other trade actions from utilizing de minimis. "
Also; (from Google search)
Here's a breakdown of the situation:
1. Focus on Fentanyl and Precursor Chemicals:
A major focus of the Biden administration's efforts with China has been on combating the flow of fentanyl and its precursor chemicals.
This has involved high-level talks and agreements with China to disrupt the supply chain and take action against Chinese chemical companies involved in the production and export of these substances.
2. Actions Against Illicit Drug Manufacturing & Trafficking:
The Biden administration has taken a broader approach to combatting illicit drug trafficking, including:
Sanctions: Imposing sanctions on individuals and entities involved in the illicit drug trade, including those based in China, according to WRAL.com.
Indictments: Bringing indictments against China-based companies and individuals involved in manufacturing and distributing illicit drugs and precursor chemicals.
Law Enforcement Cooperation: Working with international partners, including China, on law enforcement actions to disrupt drug trafficking networks.
3. Steroids within the Scope of Illicit Drug Trafficking:
While fentanyl has been a primary focus, anabolic steroids are also part of the broader problem of illicit drug trafficking that the Biden administration is trying to address.
Chinese companies have been identified as sources of raw materials for steroid production and trafficking.
Ghoul
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Unfortunately you either take action that stops all illegal white powders, or none.
CBP won't be ever say "Oh this smells like Sched III, wrap it back up and send it on".
AllGoodThings
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Very true, in regards to customs at least. The other issue is that it seems the Chinese government is actively pursuing raw powder AAS manufacturers within the country in a way they had not previously done.
Connor 25257
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So what exactly are the manufacturers supposed to do? If China is putting a stop to it why are they not moving elsewhere like India?
AllGoodThings
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There's probably a good chance that India is one of the countries that may eventually step in to fill the void, but that's going to take time. It also doesn't really solve the issue with customs being far more scrutinizing in their inspections now that de minimis is over. My money is on the next few years being a pretty challenging time for the AAS market, along with peptides, too.
Ghoul
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De minimus only over for China.
There are proposals to end it altogether though....
Connor 25257
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You’re probably right. I suppose it’s not just a Trump issue as I suggested earlier. It seems China is involved with tracking down suppliers as well. It sucks. I’m on TRT for life because of primary hypogonadism and I normally use UGL because I no longer have insurance. I only take 115 mg a week. Guess I better take this opportunity and get at least 4 years worth
AllGoodThings
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It wouldn't be a bad idea, if it's in your budget to do so. The fact that this stuff is even schedule 3 is ridiculous to begin with.
I was under the impression that it applied to quite a few countries, thank you for the correction. Hopefully it isn't expanded to other countries. Can't say I'd be too excited about raws from India.. Most of what I've seen from India was under dosed, or too sketchy to even use.
Ghoul
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I'm more concerned about losing access to India pharma than gear.
Gear supply can come from a handful of raws smuggled to the US like any other drug that gets in in large amounts to meet demand. Prices will be higher, selection poorer, but it's a pretty simple market. The "old days" even provide an example of an offline, local gym centered market.
Just need a few years worth to ride things until a new market establishes itself.
But where will a selection of thousands of meds at dirt cheap prices without needing a "permission slip" from some jackass doctor come from?
That's what I'd seriously consider stocking up on, before this unique opportunity to manage your own health without restriction comes to an end. Plenty of meds, out of light and in cold conditions last 30 years, and India blister packs are actually ideal for very long term storage.
AllGoodThings
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Great advice. I've been putting away various meds like antibiotics and antivirals, nitroglycerin, bp meds, painkillers, ed meds, etc.. for a few years now.
glpfun
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100000000 dollar minimum but you get one free amp of test
phenominal34
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Village idiots turning Stan’s thread into political bullshit. Get lost !!
AllGoodThings
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If Stan has an issue with the discussion we had that was relevant to the future availability of the products he sells, he can tell us and I would happily not discuss it here ever again. It was a few back and forths, and it's done now anyhow. Also, my posts were not political, mere factual statements as to which administrations were responsible for which initiatives that have changed the landscape of AAS availability. No need for name calling just because you didn't like the conversation.
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JC Grifter
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Bookmark the page. Keep it on an open tab. Email yourself the link.
malfeasance
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Good advice - I am always looking for those things
I actually do have it bookmarked but not even sure how I found it. I assume it's buried in the thread somewhere.
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