Started some CJC-1295 + Ipamorelin

[Volley_Fire]

Started this combo two ago @ two or three injections daily. I notice a slight flushing/heat in my face a minute or two after injecting it at 100mcg each. So far, my sleep has improved, I assume from the injection right before bed. This side effect is extremely welcome. From these two symptoms, I assume the stuff I'm using is legit.

I try not to eat for at least two hours before bed to augment the combo's effect. Main reason I'm taking it is help heal shoulder and lower back injuries. Nothing terribly serious, but they've been nagging me for years now. Hopefully a 6 months cycle will help.

Purchased from Blue Sky Peptide because someone on another forum recommended them to me.

 

[hotdog23]

Is cjc with or without DAC?

Mod grf 1-29 or cjc 1295

I would assume your pushing blue sky as the OP is pretty pointless... But it seems you are not very knowledgeable on peps.. So u may be genuine. I just ordered bpc-157 from bluesky. THAT is the peptide you wanna add to your stack for healing (assuming it's real) which at this point when pep companies are producing difficult peps that are real... U would assume the easy ones (15aa) would never be faked... This is the belief I cling to when I see bogo and 40% off and spend $100 on peps LOL

 

[Volley_Fire]

It's w/o DAC (Mod GRF-129). I should have been more specific; I know better. Oh, and I meant I started the combo two days ago (can't edit it now). Not pushing Blue Sky at all. They were just suggested to me by the person who turned me on to peptides. I mentioned them to maybe get some feedback on their reputation. Haven't had any weird injection site reactions since starting at least. It's a little reassuring to at least see that you used them too.

Wow, just read up on BPC 157. That really looks like something that might help!
What is the recommended dosage, ROA, frequency, duration of use, etc.? Is it something ought to be added on top of my CJC/Ipam combo?

I know what you mean by clinging to that belief... I find it hard to trust their COAs and other reports.

P.S. I didn't sleep very well last night. Maybe that half hour after injection was too long to wait before going to bed.

 

[hotdog23]

It's w/o DAC (Mod GRF-129). I should have been more specific; I know better. Oh, and I meant I started the combo two days ago (can't edit it now). Not pushing Blue Sky at all. They were just suggested to me by the person who turned me on to peptides. I mentioned them to maybe get some feedback on their reputation. Haven't had any weird injection site reactions since starting at least. It's a little reassuring to at least see that you used them too.

Wow, just read up on BPC 157. That really looks like something that might help!
What is the recommended dosage, ROA, frequency, duration of use, etc.? Is it something ought to be added on top of my CJC/Ipam combo?

I know what you mean by clinging to that belief... I find it hard to trust their COAs and other reports.

P.S. I didn't sleep very well last night. Maybe that half hour after injection was too long to wait before going to bed.

Too much can effect sleep. Only real way of knowing is long term results. Try 250mg ED at minimum for bpc. Used in conjunction with your current stack would be wise. It upregulates GH receptors and expression from my understanding so it's got to have GH to work

 

[Volley_Fire]

Thanks for the response.

When you say that too much can affect sleep, do you mean that too much of the mod grf / Ipam combo can make sleep worse? Also, is BPC injected subQ, so I could draw it up along with the others?

 

[hotdog23]

Too many variables can effect sleep, but the .25-.5iu of GH endogenously pulsed prob won't have that great of an impact

Idk bout the mixing bro so I won't give u bad info

 

[Volley_Fire]

Ok, well thanks for all the info. Much appreciated.

 

[bootdoc]

Having ordered from BSP, I have felt some good results. I always have a nagging worry about the sales they run all the time. But,it is probably a cuthroat market.
BSP does claim to be made in US.

 

[Demondosage]

Its very easy to question legitimacy on lower priced peptides, especially buy onebget one deals. But I can tell you guys this much; I gave the ipamorelin/cjc combo a go, and my blood sugar ran much higher, which is a side effect of hgh and ghrh's. Pretty much a good indicator that the shit is real, not to mention the tired feeling I got from ipamorelin. It honestly felt no different than running hgh to me. I think that 300mcg per day of each is about equivelant to 4iu's a day of hgh

 

[Volley_Fire]

All I know is that the stuff I got helps me sleep better. It works better for sleep than essentially any sleep-oriented supplement/herb/etc. has for me (and I've tried many of them). This alone will have me buying more.

I wonder, though, which substance helps my sleep more, the Ipamorelin or the Mod GRF? One guy told me the Ipamorelin. So I wonder if I could get equal effect on sleep with just the Ipam, and ditch the Mod GRF every so often. I'd certainly save money that way.

 

[hotdog23]

Its very easy to question legitimacy on lower priced peptides, especially buy onebget one deals. But I can tell you guys this much; I gave the ipamorelin/cjc combo a go, and my blood sugar ran much higher, which is a side effect of hgh and ghrh's. Pretty much a good indicator that the shit is real, not to mention the tired feeling I got from ipamorelin. It honestly felt no different than running hgh to me. I think that 300mcg per day of each is about equivelant to 4iu's a day of hgh

It may actually be close with clinical grade peps, prob more like 2iu but it's the real deal, every isoform, human growth hormone.

The difference in results come from active life. Exogenous GH is active for 8-12 hours. A pep pulse of natural GH is active for 2 hours... Now if you took your pep combo every 1.5 to 2 hours 3-4xday - then you would have something.

I have no idea why endogenous GH has a much shorter active life than what comes out of the pharmacy... @Docd187123 @Dr JIM any insight?

 

[Dr JIM]

It may actually be close with clinical grade peps, prob more like 2iu but it's the real deal, every isoform, human growth hormone.

The difference in results come from active life. Exogenous GH is active for 8-12 hours. A pep pulse of natural GH is active for 2 hours... Now if you took your pep combo every 1.5 to 2 hours 3-4xday - then you would have something.

I have no idea why endogenous GH has a much shorter active life than what comes out of the pharmacy... @Docd187123 @Dr JIM any insight?

Who said the half lives are/were any different?

 

[hotdog23]

Who said the half lives are/were any different?

The internet

There is a famous graph posted and reposted by pep enthusiasts. I will try to link some actual information.

 

[hotdog23]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8950613/?i=5&from=/9156038/related

Peak at 15 min, return to basal at 180min. The peak serum concentrations are MUCH higher that synthetic doses would allow. But synthetic peaks at 3.5 hours and is present 10 hours later... A lot of the above info is replicated, it's all I could find on short notice

 

[Dr JIM]

Well if came from the internet, lol, yea I'd love to see that EVIDENCE.

Please don't link us to some Blog, GH self help site, or some Forum for Dwarfs !(no offense to them small folk but)

 

[Dr JIM]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8950613/?i=5&from=/9156038/related

Peak at 15 min, return to basal at 180min. The peak serum concentrations are MUCH higher that synthetic doses would allow. But synthetic peaks at 3.5 hours and is present 10 hours later... A lot of the above info is replicated, it's all I could find on short notice

There are SEVERAL reasons for those differences. For starters the dose used and the assurance SS levels were achieved,

There will be no difference providing your they are comparing the same set of circumstances which in this instance I KNOW they are not.

Heck the evidence you posted involved the influence of different GHRP's ("PEPs") on GH secretion. That alone tells me your not comparing "what comes out of the pharmacy to endogenous GH"

Show me any data that supports that statement under a identical set of circumstances.

If all the variables are controlled appropriately there will be no difference in half life etc.

 

[hotdog23]

There are SEVERAL reasons for those differences. For starters the dose used and the assurance SS levels were achieved,

There will be no difference providing your they are comparing the same set of circumstances which in this instance I KNOW they are not.

Heck the evidence you posted involved the influence of different GHRP's ("PEPs") on GH secretion. That alone tells me your not comparing "what comes out of the pharmacy to endogenous GH"

Show me any data that supports that statement under a identical set of circumstances.

If all the variables are controlled appropriately there will be no difference in half life etc.

I'll look. I swear they are different!

 

[Dr JIM]

I'll look. I swear they are different!

If you say, so but understand exogenous and Pharmaceutical GH are structurally identical so if their pharmacokinetics are different so are the comparisons being made.

 

[hotdog23]

If you say, so but understand exogenous and Pharmaceutical GH are structurally identical so if their pharmacokinetics are different so are the comparisons being made.

That's why I tagged you. It doesn't make sense to me either. Only thing I can think is one is secreted by pituitary where other must be absorbed from body fat? So onset is slower and peak serum is lower?

If I can find something I'll post it

 

[Dr JIM]

Damn I hate when people "tag me" bc then I'm committed to responding