starting 4th week of astro labs VAR

[csd5]

Var only cycle
I understand i should be taking test but im prone to sides with everything and have had great results before off a anavar only cycle so im doing it again

seems like lifts were up in week 3 but back down starting week 4 for whatever reason. body comp hasnt changed much and the crazy pumps i get seem to diminish pretty quickly instead of staying pretty hard

maybe i should up it from 60mg a day to 80? i take 20mg at 9am, 5pm and 9pm

 

[Heavygear]

Aside from var only cycle being almost complete waste without test , I never noticed any additional benefits going beyond 60.

 

[csd5]

yeah im on week 5 and seeing nothing except some extra strength and pumps, body has not changed even with good diet and cardio 3x week

 

[brutus79]

Sounds like a var only cycle... first time might have worked- second time is evidently not the charm.. try primo/hcg, masteron hcg. Var only is for chicks and has minimal impact beyond pumps and strength.

 

[csd5]

so weird bc the first time it worked fine...muscles were rock hard all day...no reason for it not to happen the 2nd time

i guess ill research those other things you mentioned, i never pinned before only have done orals and im prone to hairloss so thats why i always stuck with var

it is what it is

 

[Oregongearhead]

Throw some test in there if you want better results , Im going into my 2nd week of Astro var (25mgx2day) and 500mg MFL test prop/wk . Definitely feeling it already , I love the strength gains the most , followed by the vascularity . If its big muscle gains your after then go with test/tren or test/deca ......

 

[FishyMatt]

Any updates? How are things going with just the var?

 

[csd5]

strength is up but thats it 6.5 weeks in, disappointed but hey what am i gonna do

just bumped it to 80mg 4 days ago, so ill be on 80 until week 8 is done

 

[dper726]

Var is extremely overrated alone and it's just the icing on the cake with other compounds in the mix. Good luck in your progress

 

[csd5]

terrible, 0 results, my friend is on day 20 and hes a gym rat thats taken everything before, 0 results

 

[Astro Labs]

I feel impelled to comment on this subject due to my Brand being attached to this post in a negitive way.

What are you implying by saying "TERRIBLE" it's terrible you're shutting yourself down for minimal to zero gains. Var alone is for women or 150lb male models. You make a thread and complain about your progress when you are running a VAR......ALONE..... cycle.

I think you are expecting more from the drug then it's capable of producing. Add 250mg Test a week and results will be 10× that of var alone.

terrible, 0 results, my friend is on day 20 and hes a gym rat thats taken everything before, 0 results

 

[flexx89]

var only is gonna shut u down and your body needs testosterone, not just for building muscle but for many other functions that var alone cannot replace

 

[csd5]

i guess thats what happens when you dont take test with it, only reason i didnt wanna run test is because im already losing my crown (hair) on my head and var has no sides (im also 155lbs 5'6)

im not saying the var is bunk, my blood tests have all the normal signs of anavar, my HDL was 6mg/ml LOL

so this isnt a knock on astro i guess i was just expecting more results from just var....after 8 weeks i am not shut down in anyway though

 

[Heavygear]

i guess thats what happens when you dont take test with it, only reason i didnt wanna run test is because im already losing my crown (hair) on my head and var has no sides (im also 155lbs 5'6)

im not saying the var is bunk, my blood tests have all the normal signs of anavar, my HDL was 6mg/ml LOL

so this isnt a knock on astro i guess i was just expecting more results from just var....after 8 weeks i am not shut down in anyway though

Dude, if not this forum, a quick googler would tell you hundreds of people saying exact same thign what we have told you, NOT TO RUN VAR ALONE, you are getting all the sides of roids and none of the benefits. It don't matter how good your var is. I don't understand why people doo things that they are told hundreds of times they will not work.

 

[heady muscle]

If you don't want to pin, then I would suggest taking at the least a oral methyltest or an or trest to go along with your var. Someone can correct me if I am wrong here, but these two may be the closest orals to test. Its kind of a reach. I still think that is not adequate, but if your not going to pin then this may help.

 

[Capt Forest]

I have read good things about trest as a "test base"

 

[dper726]

i guess thats what happens when you dont take test with it, only reason i didnt wanna run test is because im already losing my crown (hair) on my head and var has no sides (im also 155lbs 5'6)

im not saying the var is bunk, my blood tests have all the normal signs of anavar, my HDL was 6mg/ml LOL

so this isnt a knock on astro i guess i was just expecting more results from just var....after 8 weeks i am not shut down in anyway though

Buddy anavar is really not a great drug and extremely overrated on it's own unless what you are seeking like astro said is a male model physique. Otherwise put the muscle and fitness and flex mags away those guys are not just on anavar and far from it. Anavar alone with other compounds in a cycle only adds to an appearance.

You will have to overcome your fear of pinning. It's difficult at first but once you pick it up it's like drinking water.