Steroid use by young adults can have long-term positive effects

[Steroid News]

Professor Kristian Gundersen comments on results of new steroid study published in the Journal of Physiology. The study results suggests the use of anabolic steroids could have life-long positive benefits:

This has prompted Gundersen, who says doping bans in sport are "a political question", to consider ethical ways of doing human research on steroids.

"It is hard to translate from a mouse which only lives two years, but the biology suggests to me that it could be very long-lasting in a human. To me, that makes a four-year suspension rather a short time.

"The results in our mice may correspond to the effects of steroids lasting for decades in humans, given the same cellular 'muscle memory' mechanism . . . Three months after withdrawal of the drug [approximately 15% of a mouse's life span] their muscles grew by 30% over six days following load exercise. The untreated mice grew insignificantly. It is rare in my experience to get such clearcut results."

He explained that many basic biological mechanisms are similar in all mammals, which is why a lot of medical research is done in mice. "A mouse lives only two years, so you can't compare with humans in absolute terms, but the mechanism relating to the cell nuclei are such that you would expect it to be very long-lasting in humans.

"When you give steroids, muscle grows and you get more power. You also get an increase in the number of cell nuclei surrounded by machinery for synthesising the protein that builds the muscle. Previously it was believed when you de-trained, or removed the drug, the muscle shrunk and you lost these extra nuclei. But we have shown they never disappear. They are not eliminated.

"For me the greatest interest is not in sport doping, but in helping the elderly. These nuclei are very stable in humans. They last several decades. To increase the nuclei is much harder when you are old than when you are young. So it is good advice to do some exercise when you are young. Even if you don't train throughout life, you might benefit from that in old age. Frailty of the elderly is big problem. There are implications there."

Source: Further proof that life bans for steroid abusers would be justified | Herald Scotland

 

[BR1217]

Nice article.

 

[Hueghe]

Very interesting read, thanks.

 

[Demondosage]

Amen!

 

[TheHamburglar]

I struggle with the topic of PED's in sports.

I understand both sides of the argument, but I lean far towards the side of legalizing the use of PED's.

Speaking as a lifelong competitor (football, wrestling, basketball, baseball, bodybuilding, and some boxing) winning is for who wants it. What the fuck are you willing to do? There are always going to be the anomalies, the ones who are naturally gifted, and what lengths are you willing to go to to bury them?

If AAS/HGH/Slin etc... will give me the edge to be the one who walks away the victor then fuck everything else. I never went out there to make friends and be a good sportsman, I went out there to win and was willing to go to whatever lengths to do so.

If others fear any repercussions of something they may have to do to win then they never wanted it bad enough anyway,

 

[WhiteLedgen]

Interesting thanks for posting...

 

[loveyourbody]

I agree with thehamburgler.

 

[workinghard89]

I struggle with the topic of PED's in sports.

I understand both sides of the argument, but I lean far towards the side of legalizing the use of PED's.

Speaking as a lifelong competitor (football, wrestling, basketball, baseball, bodybuilding, and some boxing) winning is for who wants it. What the fuck are you willing to do? There are always going to be the anomalies, the ones who are naturally gifted, and what lengths are you willing to go to to bury them?

If AAS/HGH/Slin etc... will give me the edge to be the one who walks away the victor then fuck everything else. I never went out there to make friends and be a good sportsman, I went out there to win and was willing to go to whatever lengths to do so.

If others fear any repercussions of something they may have to do to win then they never wanted it bad enough anyway,

completely agree.

 

[Cryptobolics]

Thats why I take my weekly dose of Test E lol

 

[asdf123]

completely agree.

You shouldn't. If no one used gear in the first place, then everyone can compete normally.

 

[workinghard89]

You shouldn't. If no one used gear in the first place, then everyone can compete normally.

I shouldn't? Not one person is created equally. One persons genetics can be far superior to others. But who ever wants it more should do whatever they deem necessary! So if they're willingto risk there health to be the best in they're respected sport. Then I say do it!

Fuck normal compettion. Juiced up athletes are farmore entertaining then " normal " athletes.

Let the one willing to die for his cause , win

Now if you wanna spam this forum please do a better job at it!

 

[CristianoV91]

Why not? I want to be/see the best. AAS will let you push far beyond natural limits making the game/sport more intense.

 

[rambosmurf]

whats normally? in any sport all sports we push to excell and beyond,its competition. if we dont push beyond normal, then we are just the fat fodies that watch others on th tv

 

[Pericles]

I disagree, strongly. The best time to start gear is in your 30's.

Steroid use in young men is unwise, unless you can make a lot of money. If a 22 year old is going to get a multi million football deal, then I would see it being worth the risk.

When I say risk, the main concern is the endocrine system, which does not fully mature until 25. You then have peak test until 27, and then you lose 1-2% a year. Why fuck w/ that? Imagine, being 30, on trt, and you meet the woman of your dreams. You take her back to your place, she gets hot and definitely want's to roll, but you say, "sorry sweety, I have to take a shot of test. Can I take you out in 2 days?

The other day, I kid you not had 3 kids come up to me and ask "can you get me steroids?" I said "can? "Yes I can." They said, "I get paid in 3 days, will you get me gear?" Will I?" Hell Fuck no.

There is another problem. No one wants to get any side, health effect material. They don't care about pct. This problem is especially bad with younger guys.

Finally, most of these kids are not serious about training. They train about as hard as a 6 year old school girl. They have not done 5 tears of hardcore power-body building.

 

[beezil]

You shouldn't. If no one used gear in the first place, then everyone can compete normally.

thats like saying if no one TRAINED... everyone can compete normally...
wtf??

 

[Pericles]

You shouldn't. If no one used gear in the first place, then everyone can compete normally.

If I never touched gear, I would still be "not normal" Competitive B Building is insane, which is why I like it so much.

 

[Big_paul]

thats what ive been saying for the last 23 years.

 

[corageon]

I disagree, strongly. The best time to start gear is in your 30's.

Steroid use in young men is unwise, unless you can make a lot of money. If a 22 year old is going to get a multi million football deal, then I would see it being worth the risk.

When I say risk, the main concern is the endocrine system, which does not fully mature until 25. You then have peak test until 27, and then you lose 1-2% a year. Why fuck w/ that? Imagine, being 30, on trt, and you meet the woman of your dreams. You take her back to your place, she gets hot and definitely want's to roll, but you say, "sorry sweety, I have to take a shot of test. Can I take you out in 2 days?

The other day, I kid you not had 3 kids come up to me and ask "can you get me steroids?" I said "can? "Yes I can." They said, "I get paid in 3 days, will you get me gear?" Will I?" Hell Fuck no.

There is another problem. No one wants to get any side, health effect material. They don't care about pct. This problem is especially bad with younger guys.

Finally, most of these kids are not serious about training. They train about as hard as a 6 year old school girl. They have not done 5 tears of hardcore power-body building.

Money is always that unfortunate factor, steroid use can have very positive effects, including with motivation, some don't want to get off though once their on, its quite a great feeling after all, to be invigorated in such a way.

The extra money with a proper PCT is important as well, especially considering how stingy doctors tend to be in this area.

I believe 21+ is an alright age to begin with the gear, preferably older. 18 at the very least, but because receptors are still forming, and proliferating etc, it could have an impact on growth, depending on the knowledge of the person and how they use these compounds, and furthermore, which ones.

 

[Voltrader]

It is best to hit your natural peak before touching any AAS and I would say for most and when you began training and what not. Most 28 years of age or older. Once you cycle it is completely the law of diminishing returns....you will have to cycle again to get back and again and again. If you wait to packed on 10-15 years of muscle it is much lower doses and easier to maintain at least you can always go back to your natural peak but never your cycled peak without cycling.

 

[Beastmodenation1]

The way I see it is we have short lives anyway why not strive to become the most absolute best we can be while we have the chance. Yes there are risks but you have to ask yourself do I wanna be good? or kinda good?