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[Wunderpus]

I've always blasted 10000 iu the last part of my cycle. Never had an issue recovering. Even from deca. I've always thought about running it during cycle. I'm currently in week 7 of a planned 16 week cycle. I might extend it to 20. If I wanted to run it during what do you think about starting it week 12? Also it does not need to be pinned eod. It has a long half life. Every 3 to 4 days is fine. Instead of 500 eod do 1000 every 3-4 days.

A while ago I saw scally recommended EOD, so that's what I do. Scally's protocols have been effective for me, so why change anything?

 

[emcomfu]

A while ago I saw scally recommended EOD, so that's what I do. Scally's protocols have been effective for me, so why change anything?

Was that his recommendation for during cycle? Because, I do know I read he Changed his protocol for his pct to every 4 days. Anyways, thinking about running it starting in a month or so for the last 6 weeks or so of my cycle up 'til I begin serms

 

[manafest]

I do get insomnia from tren and my cardio goes to shit, and I sweat a lot more (no night sweats though). I only get a cough occasionally but that can happen with test too, it is just worse with tren when it happens. I also will piss darker around 2 weeks in. But when I look at the sides, I get some of the same ones with test prop (insomnia, increased sweating, cough when nick a vein I guess). However the insomnia with tren starts with me almost immediately, I sweat more than I do on just other AAS, and if I get a cough it is much more noticeable.

Also pinning tren ace produces more pip for me than test prop (virtually none) and out of all the AAS I've ran tren ace probably causes the most pip for me (if it's dosed right). The pip I get is temporary and lasts a couple hours after pinning tren (delts are worst), I get pretty much zero pip from any test (including prop and TNE if it is in solution properly). About a week in my cardio takes a beating and a set of squats feels like sprinting a marathon.

But aside from the reduced cardio, I get some of the same sides with test prop, but sides like insomnia take weeks for me to experience with test prop but insomnia from tren ace kicks in within about a week for me. I don't experience darker urine at all running just test prop and most orals don't, typically, darken my urine much either. But tren always darkens my urine.

But as far as feelings go, insomnia and shitty cardio aren't much to go off of. The one guy mentioned about not "feeling" anything, and when someone says something like that, it makes me wonder if they are experienced with using AAS. Guys expect to notice something within less than a week and when I first started running gear, I wouldn't have been able to determine the quality of my gear off of feeling because I didn't know what to expect to feel from using AAS. And still I would argue that going off of feelings is a bad way to judge product because I've had cycles where side effects were minute. But I definitely can tell if my shit is legit because I know what gains to expect while cycling.

I agree you said it best when people start thinking they need to feel a certain way don't don't that it does not mean shit gear... and again when most start using they have no friggen clue as to feel anything im quite sure most never have..!! good post

 

[Steroidify]

Placing an order with Darius / Pharmacom. I'll have blood work up in a cycle log before I begin. Watch for it in the next week or so

Thank you!
You'll have 100$ PharmacomStore credit for bloods + log.

 

[Wunderpus]

Was that his recommendation for during cycle? Because, I do know I read he Changed his protocol for his pct to every 4 days. Anyways, thinking about running it starting in a month or so for the last 6 weeks or so of my cycle up 'til I begin serms

Hmm, I am not sure. I believe the last I saw was 500 iu's EOD. I've done that for a while now. Keep in mind, my protocol is largely risk reduction, as I'm on TRT anyway.

I don't have any kids, yet. I'm sure the old lady will want one someday, so I do what I can to mitigate that risk.

 

[Ozzy619]

I do get insomnia from tren and my cardio goes to shit, and I sweat a lot more (no night sweats though). I only get a cough occasionally but that can happen with test too, it is just worse with tren when it happens. I also will piss darker around 2 weeks in. But when I look at the sides, I get some of the same ones with test prop (insomnia, increased sweating, cough when nick a vein I guess). However the insomnia with tren starts with me almost immediately, I sweat more than I do on just other AAS, and if I get a cough it is much more noticeable.

Also pinning tren ace produces more pip for me than test prop (virtually none) and out of all the AAS I've ran tren ace probably causes the most pip for me (if it's dosed right). The pip I get is temporary and lasts a couple hours after pinning tren (delts are worst), I get pretty much zero pip from any test (including prop and TNE if it is in solution properly). About a week in my cardio takes a beating and a set of squats feels like sprinting a marathon.

But aside from the reduced cardio, I get some of the same sides with test prop, but sides like insomnia take weeks for me to experience with test prop but insomnia from tren ace kicks in within about a week for me. I don't experience darker urine at all running just test prop and most orals don't, typically, darken my urine much either. But tren always darkens my urine.

But as far as feelings go, insomnia and shitty cardio aren't much to go off of. The one guy mentioned about not "feeling" anything, and when someone says something like that, it makes me wonder if they are experienced with using AAS. Guys expect to notice something within less than a week and when I first started running gear, I wouldn't have been able to determine the quality of my gear off of feeling because I didn't know what to expect to feel from using AAS. And still I would argue that going off of feelings is a bad way to judge product because I've had cycles where side effects were minute. But I definitely can tell if my shit is legit because I know what gains to expect while cycling.

This is very well said. On tren I get relatively little sides too; an occasional night sweat, sweat more often, a little worse cardio and a little cough if I nick a blood vessel. Other than that I see vascularity and recomp as I use it to cut. The only time I feel on is with tne or an oral like dbol or tbol. A lot of people think aas will turn you into the hulk overnight. I always notice the biggest chanyes at the end of a cycle as it takes time. Aas are a small part of a big picture. I notice the guys that speak out of turn rarely speak of diet. Aas are not magic but another tool to add to the arsenal.

 

[Cml41987]

This is very well said. On tren I get relatively little sides too; an occasional night sweat, sweat more often, a little worse cardio and a little cough if I nick a blood vessel. Other than that I see vascularity and recomp as I use it to cut. The only time I feel on is with tne or an oral like dbol or tbol. A lot of people think aas will turn you into the hulk overnight. I always notice the biggest chanyes at the end of a cycle as it takes time. Aas are a small part of a big picture. I notice the guys that speak out of turn rarely speak of diet. Aas are not magic but another tool to add to the arsenal.

You know I am a big fan of bostin loyd just because he is honest about everything he does and sheds light on the darker side of bodybuilding, but he recently stated in a video that the drugs and diet are the biggest part of working out and the actual hitting the weights are only 10% of it... Lol I'm sorry but I know drugs and diet are a big part but to say that they make up for 90 and lifting is only 10 I think is a little crazy.. Lol I deff think lifting makes up more than 10% of the tools in our arsenal!

 

[Wunderpus]

Anyone used Pharmacom's tren hex??

 

[Ozzy619]

Darius replaced the dbol I had with winny, the same amount of pills as well. Has anybody ran this pharmacom winny yet?

 

[johnnyrotten94]

Darius replaced my dbol as well. I appreciate him being stand up about the whole situation!

 

[Ozzy619]

Darius replaced my dbol as well. I appreciate him being stand up about the whole situation!

I even told him not to replace the entire amount with winny as that would be a big loss to him. I really wasnt expecting this much winny so props to D. Hopefully it works out.

 

[TBJ9000]

Darius replaced my dbol as well. I appreciate him being stand up about the whole situation!

That's some good stuff right there. I placed another small order for some tren e and proviron but not doing the dbol stuff right now..

 

[TBJ9000]

Darius replaced the dbol I had with winny, the same amount of pills as well. Has anybody ran this pharmacom winny yet?

I have 40ml im about to start using. If you're interested I can PM you or post here, whichever you prefer...

 

[TBJ9000]

You know I am a big fan of bostin loyd just because he is honest about everything he does and sheds light on the darker side of bodybuilding, but he recently stated in a video that the drugs and diet are the biggest part of working out and the actual hitting the weights are only 10% of it... Lol I'm sorry but I know drugs and diet are a big part but to say that they make up for 90 and lifting is only 10 I think is a little crazy.. Lol I deff think lifting makes up more than 10% of the tools in our arsenal!

Which is why he is a fucking idiot...

He reminds me of rich piana who I used to like. Rich just looks worse and worse every video he makes.. God he looks like hell

 

[Ozzy619]

I have 40ml im about to start using. If you're interested I can PM you or post here, whichever you prefer...

Just keel it updated here so everyone can see whats up, Ill do the same at 50mgs ed

 

[Cml41987]

Which is why he is a fucking idiot...

He reminds me of rich piana who I used to like. Rich just looks worse and worse every video he makes.. God he looks like hell

What about rich don't you like? Like in what ways do u think e looks like shit. Me personally I think he is un proportional. Like his arms are not shaped right almost on the verge of being a poster boy for synthol are something. I have nothing against synthol personally if it's used right. I mean I have see. It do wonders for people who compete to help bring up weak body parts, but idk his arms are just not shaped right in my eyes. Other than that I think he has a nice physique. If his arms were not all jacked up he would look good.

 

[Ozzy619]

What about rich don't you like? Like in what ways do u think e looks like shit. Me personally I think he is un proportional. Like his arms are not shaped right almost on the verge of being a poster boy for synthol are something. I have nothing against synthol personally if it's used right. I mean I have see. It do wonders for people who compete to help bring up weak body parts, but idk his arms are just not shaped right in my eyes. Other than that I think he has a nice physique. If his arms were not all jacked up he would look good.

His face is pretty fucked up, like a fucked up face lift or something. He starting to look like Mickey Rourke to me.

 

[Cml41987]

His face is pretty fucked up, like a fucked up face lift or something. He starting to look like Mickey Rourke to me.

Lol.. He says in a video he wa taking like 20 iu of serostims for like 10 years

 

[stan24]

What about rich don't you like? Like in what ways do u think e looks like shit. Me personally I think he is un proportional. Like his arms are not shaped right almost on the verge of being a poster boy for synthol are something. I have nothing against synthol personally if it's used right. I mean I have see. It do wonders for people who compete to help bring up weak body parts, but idk his arms are just not shaped right in my eyes. Other than that I think he has a nice physique. If his arms were not all jacked up he would look good.

Look more like implants then synthol

 

[MindlessWork]

Look more like implants then synthol

That's what I think...and implants can move too so they can soon start looking out of place