strength w/o mass

[greengiant]

hey, wondering if anyone out there can help me cut throught the bs.
im a 25 y/o athlete, 6', 200lbs, been lifting on&off for about 10 all-natural years. im planning my first cycle, looking to gain as much strength as possible with minimal mass gains.
i've read in some places that winny or anavar with dbol is a good combination for this, other places talk about deca and other gear. i haven't found a lot of good or consistent info on strength w/minimal mass, a lot of sources are all over the place.
any advice?

 

[jbrand]

hey, wondering if anyone out there can help me cut throught the bs.
im a 25 y/o athlete, 6', 200lbs, been lifting on&off for about 10 all-natural years. im planning my first cycle, looking to gain as much strength as possible with minimal mass gains.
i've read in some places that winny or anavar with dbol is a good combination for this, other places talk about deca and other gear. i haven't found a lot of good or consistent info on strength w/minimal mass, a lot of sources are all over the place.
any advice?

Halotestin. There are issues of toxicity to be concerned with, but halotestin is definetely a favorite among athletes who need to maintain a specific weight.

 

[Patuba]

I've been reading a lot of threads on how amazing Tren is. I haven't tried it though.

 

[quedog123]

for thoose goals def either Tren or Halo or anvar alothoug it will not be as effective but also it will be less dangerous

 

[Pup'nIrn]

hey, wondering if anyone out there can help me cut throught the bs.
im a 25 y/o athlete, 6', 200lbs, been lifting on&off for about 10 all-natural years. im planning my first cycle, looking to gain as much strength as possible with minimal mass gains.
i've read in some places that winny or anavar with dbol is a good combination for this, other places talk about deca and other gear. i haven't found a lot of good or consistent info on strength w/minimal mass, a lot of sources are all over the place.
any advice?

I agree with the Tren...no weight gain just a hell of alot of strength. If you are running this for powerlifitng I will push you away from Winny because of the two competion strongmen(u have seen on ESPN) I have talked to suggest winny weakens joint/tendon connections. They stay away from it because of the extreme loads they handle. Halo is something I can't remark on.... I guess it matters what you are going to use this for. My buddies weigh in for powerlifting and then hit an A-50 and shoot water based test for immediate strength increases before contest.

 

[Pup'nIrn]

for thoose goals def either Tren or Halo or anvar alothoug it will not be as effective but also it will be less dangerous

Tren dangerous....ahhhh I don't think so. We went throught this battle over at Elite Fitness years back when it was all new to convert. In 6-8 week cycles, I have never seen sides ot read any info to back up kidney or liver damage. The reputation for tren came from its original source Parabolan. Remember Para contains esters that have been blamed for the sides in other gear. I believe tren is as safe as any other gear.

 

[Deacon]

it is an easy answer - test - tren - and halo


but you will get aggressive and mean as hell so if you have anger issues avoid this at all costs

 

[greengiant]

thanks everyone, i'll definitely look into tren