Strong Test C 300 And Anadrol 50

Generally speaking Adrol performs a similar job as dbol, so using them in the beginning of a cycle is my preference, where you do tend to pack on the most gains. Plus using adrol in the beginning makes E management easier since you haven't accumulated higher E levels at that point in the cycle.

Most of "not making gains" in the tail end of ones cycle has to do more with training habits than the actual AAS. I am in week 16 of a cycle right now, and put on 1.4 pounds since last week and I haven't changed my dose or compound regiment for 10 weeks now. Sure you put on more gains as a cycle starts out, but provided you know good training habits, you can keep the gains coming for the duration of any cycle without pyramiding or compound switching, especially first time users.
 
What do your pre cycle lifting stats look like (squat, press, bench, deadlift, etc)?
I haven't maxed out in over 5 months. But I ramp up to where I do 3 reps ( I lift solo.) Saturday I went to 225 bp for 3 reps. Monday 285 squat for 4 reps. Yesterday dead lift 305 for for 3 reps... Im all over the board in iso. lifts.. I push my self as hard as I can. But I do have to be careful on my joints.. I'm 36 and my shoulder and wrists hurt if I go heavy to long.
 
Generally speaking Adrol performs a similar job as dbol, so using them in the beginning of a cycle is my preference, where you do tend to pack on the most gains. Plus using adrol in the beginning makes E management easier since you haven't accumulated higher E levels at that point in the cycle.

Most of "not making gains" in the tail end of ones cycle has to do more with training habits than the actual AAS. I am in week 16 of a cycle right now, and put on 1.4 pounds since last week and I haven't changed my dose or compound regiment for 10 weeks now. Sure you put on more gains as a cycle starts out, but provided you know good training habits, you can keep the gains coming for the duration of any cycle without pyramiding or compound switching, especially first time users.
So even with front loading you use oral at the beginning?
 
Depends on the oral, generally speaking, I only run anavar or winstrol at the end of cycles. Tbol, adrol, dbol I run at the beginning. I do this even when front-loading. The logic is pretty easy to follow, for bulking you can pack on serious mass earlier in the cycle and tone it up towards the end of a cycle. So, when bulking (or "clean bulking") I stick bulking type orals up front, and when cutting I stick cutting orals at the end, since this is when you want to see/obtain the highest vascularity that your cycle will produce.

I've tried win and anavar kick starts, and I just don't get as much bang as with tbol, adrol, dbol. Conversely, I've tried dbol, tbol at the end of cycles, and I just don't get as massive as with them in the front.

I think the part that is mostly preference, also needs a caveat, whenever I want to "frontload" or start a cycle with an oral, I use one of the three bulking ones, whenever I want to cut, I use one of the two cutting ones and put them at the back.
 
My diet is o.k. I don't always eat "clean" so to say. But I don't eat junk food. Even if I'm not on a cycle I eat rather healthy.
I only pre-plan my lunch. My morning meal is usually always the same. 1 cup oatmeal 2 large eggs, 1 scoop ON GS with 8 oz whole milk.

Lunch- 4 double cheese burgers on whole wheat w/ lettuce tomato and no fat miracle whip. (Today)

Dinner- What ever wife makes. Always hi protein w/ veggies.

protein shake before and after w/o with 1 cup grinded oatmeal per serving.

Before bed- 8 oz. Milk. Cup of cottage cheese.

A monster sandwich after work. Lol
 
Damn son. And you think 12.5mg EOD on Aromasin is ok at those dosages? I'm starting 600 test EW, 50mg Dbol ED soon and I was deciding between 12.5mg EOD or ED
 
from your photo...I think you might need to do AI ED...however, only mid-bloodwork will tell you.
 
Damn son. And you think 12.5mg EOD on Aromasin is ok at those dosages? I'm starting 600 test EW, 50mg Dbol ED soon and I was deciding between 12.5mg EOD or ED
I have 60 tabs aro in case in need to up my dosage. But was using that as a base.
 
Also I was thinking about going to go ahead and start adrol tommorow due to many opinions... It would still be fine since I'm only 5 days in, plus front-loading????
 
I think Mus4 wants to say that your nipples look they will be prone to gyno. To be honest when i saw the photos wanted to say the same.
 
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