summer cycle

[Buff Diddy]

hey guys, this is the next cycle I plan to do. i've only done mild cycles in the past and feel i'm ready to move into the intermediate range. so this is what i have in mind, please comment on how well put together a cycle this is. my goal is a 20 lb mass gain without too much water bloat, low risk of side effects (i am prone to get back acne and gyno) and most importantly i want to keep at least 80% of my gains. ok here goes:

week 1-5 20mg d-bol ed, 500mg sust, 300mg deca
weeks 6-8 500mg sust, 300mg deca
weeks 8-12 300mg deca

i will take 10mg nolva ed starting week 2 and continuing all the way through pct which will definately include clomid and possible a little hcg. we'll see how the 300mg deca works out with the 2ml organon vials. if this turns out to be too difficult to measure out doses then i'll keep the deca down to 200mg a week. your critiques would be appreciated. thanks.

 

[spound]

Hey bro, the deca and the Dbol will give you considerable water bloat. I would substitute the Deca for EQ instead at about 400mg/wk, considering your goals. ALso, dont run the deca (or EQ if you decide to do that) longer than the test. This will greatly increase risks of Deca Dick. Run the test just as long, if not longer, than the Deca.

 

[Buff Diddy]

thanks for the advice. personally i'm not a big fan of eq. so i'm going to stick w/deca. maybe what i'll do is keep running the test for 10-12 weeks at a lower dose like 250 mgs. i've never tried d-bol before and am somewhat hesitant to take a 17aa oral but because i have a bunch of it sitting around i thought i'd give it a shot to kickstart the cycle. i still have a while before i start to make revisions and fine tune the cycle. if anyone else has any ideas let me know, thanks.

 

[db2]

I would run the test all 12 weeks at 500mg a week. 500mg a week is a very mild dose. you should not see much sides.

 

[Big Trav]

Your dosages look fine, but your timing is a little off. Heres what I would do...First, fun the test and deca for the entire 12 weeks. Also, your dbal dosage is really low...don't get me wrong, I like to use just enough and not go overboard, but I really suggest you bump it up to 40mg's every day for 4-5 weeks(just play it by ear on how your body is responding to it). Also, if you are using sust., and are gyno prone, you should definately take the nolvadex from day one, because the prop in the sust will hit you fast. Now, on the clomid, (I have done this time and time again with no hcg and haven't ever had the end cycle crash...might just be me, but you can give it a try,) start taking the clomid, 50mg every mon, wend, fri, at the beginning of the 10th week. Do this until week 13...then bump it up to every day until the end of week 15. I always get even stronger during these 3 weeks, and so far, knock on wood, haven't crashed yet. I have never used hcg, just the clomid. Like I said, everyone is different, so you just need to find out what works best for you through trial and error. Oh, by the way, since you are using sust, be sure to take it eod...if not, you will miss out on the benefit of the prop in it. Hope this helped.

 

[crewboss]

i agree. run the test all the way through. never want to run deca on its own.

 

[Buff Diddy]

I appreciate the feedback. I think I'm going to make some revisions to the cycle based on your comments. But, big trav, there's no way I'm going to take 40mg of d-bol on my first run. I'll probably up it to 25mg but thats it for now. Remember here I'm not an advanced juicer. I'll run the test and deca together throughout the whole cycle to avoid the dreaded deca dick. I probably won't need any hcg to rebound from 500mg test per week. Thanks again guys.