Swale, do you ever spread HCG out over the week?

[Sonny]

Swale,

You've stated in the past that peak serum levels of Testosterone are generally found at the 72 hour mark after receiving the injection. However, my lab work seems to indicate that my levels are at the highest at the 24hr mark and then gradually fall after that. Additionally, the 250 iu shot on the day before the Test injection seems to *really* boost the serum levels of T immediately following the shot.

I've tried getting my levels test 1 day after, 2 days after, 3 days after, and 6 days after getting 100mg shots. Highest blood levels were the 1 day after readings. Since beginning HCG, it seems that I start to run out of steam by Monday or Tuesday. Because of this, I was wondering if I could get your thoughts on this regimen:

Plan C
Friday - 100mg of Test Cyp
Saturday -
Sunday -
Monday - 125 iu of HCG
Tuesday - 125 iu of HCG
Wednesday - 125 iu of HCG
Thursday - 125 iu of HCG

Total amount of HCG is still 500 iu/week per your recommendation.

I started out HCG with this regimen:

Plan A
Friday - 100mg of Test Cyp
Saturday-
Sunday -
Monday -
Tuesday -
Wednesday - 250 iu of HCG
Thursday - 250 iu of HCG

I felt good on this, but my T levels were high (1249 total T, range = 241-827; Free T >52.0, range = 9.5-43...levels taken 1 day after injection).

I switched over to this:

Plan B
Friday - 80mg of Test Cyp
Saturday -
Sunday -
Monday -
Tuesday -
Wednesday - 250 iu HCG
Thursday - 250 iu HCG

I feel pretty crappy on this. Tired, unmotivated, etc. Level are (Total T = 463, range = 241-827; Free T 22.9, range = 9.5-43...levels taken 3 days after injection).

Summary: Plan A was too "strong", but Plan B was too "weak"...looking for a middle-ground alternative.

Thanks,
Sonny

 

[Stez]

I've tried doing 100iu HCG ED and found the results weren't that good. Don't know about serum levels, but as for sex drive it just didn't give me the kick I wanted.

I believe in terms of sexual performance, HCG needs to be given in hits, as per swale's program. I tried 200iu EOD and that was slightly better, but still not great. I may try 300iu E3D.

However, I am taking Test E5D not E7D which is why serum level swing isn't as significant for me.

Will probably switch to swale's 7 day protocol soon though.

 

[greatgro]

Sonny, there seems to be such a difference between plan A & B with regards to T levels yet the only difference is 80mg Test (20% less) and bloodwork taken 1 day versus 3 days after the shot.

Is it possible that your initial reaction to HcG caused a bigger increase in blood Test levels than it does now? In other words, maybe now HcG isn't causing as big as a response so maybe with only 80mg Cyp, your test isn't getting elevated enough. Maybe you need 100mg again b/c of this and this time you won't be over the top end of the range with that dose.

But hey - damnit Jim - I'm a scientist not a doctor! (If I may reverse that quote!)