SWALE take a look I am to young for HRT

[Funny Monkey]

Well got my blood work back today and boy am I confused. Well way back in Spring of last year I did a Tren cycle at 75mg eod. Finished up PCT with unleashed, chrysin, zinc. Not smart I know but I felt fine. Had blood work done last fall before my 10 week 1T-4AD @500/400mg/week cycle and my total test was 352 I didn't like that but went ahead with the cycle My PCT was http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24392 so its been about a month to 5 weeks after PCT when I had my blood drawn but I don't think I have recovered. My question is what shoudl I do to get my FSH and LH higher? I was thinking of buying 2 test saliva tests and doing one now then taking ultra hot for 20 days then doing another one OR shoudl I do another PCT of nolva?

Triglycerides 57
hdl 53
ldl 59
tsh 1.75 0.40-5.50 MIU/L
AST 18
ALT 20
LH 1.8 1.5-9.3MIU/ML
FSH 1.3 1.6-8.0MIU/ML
Total test 346 241-827NG/DL
ESTRADIOL 9 10-50pg/ml

Another thing if my estradiol is so low then wouldn't that be telling my hypothalmus release GnRH and then the pituitary release LH/FSH to make more test. I just dont understand?
PLEASE HELP!
FYI I am 22 years of age.

 

[Glaim]

Re:

You were on a 10 week cycle of 1-test/4-ad. It's been less than 5 weeks and you don't think you've recovered yet. I don't see why you find this shocking. Time On = Time off, right? I don't believe this is the right forum for this anyhow.

 

[earthdog]

Triglycerides 57
hdl 53
ldl 59

Funny Monkey, don't take what I'm about to say the wrong way. I'm not trying to insult you or belittle you as a person. But I think you've made some serious mistakes.

Why is your cholesterol so low? Am I reading this right? Total chol. = 112?
Are you on a no-fat or low fat diet? Severely restricted calories? You might not be taking in enough building blocks to produce enough hormones. What's your diet like? If you know, post your daily caloric intake along with grams/day and sources of fat.

You should be aware that chrysin is useless. I see from the link you posted that are or were on tribulus. That in of itself is supressive. The fact that the guy called Lean One is recommending that to you makes me suspicious of any advice he gives in this area. He says, "Everyone here should know that when i say it does X, Im not lying. When I say it will be good, it will." Yeah, he's not lying. He's the Authority on the topic. He may know alot about getting lean, but he doesn't know jack about hormones. I read the Hunt for Red October, therefore I know everything there is to know about nuclear fast attack subs. Well maybe not everything, but I do know it's dangerous to discharge a firearm in the torpedo room. All kidding aside, none of that other stuff, horny goat weed, etc., has ever been proven raise test/lh. No one knows the long-term effects it has on your endocrine system. You should stop taking that stuff. How is a doctor supposed to interpret your test results when you're taking substances that have effects that can't be predicted? It's hard enough for an experienced doc to treat you with proven, tested pharmecuticals.

You did 10 weeks of M1T? And you're still alive? Congrats! That stuff is extremely toxic. You'd better tell your doctor what you did and have him test for liver problems. Hopefully you won't have any permanent damage.

This was your PCT which ended in February, 2005:

day Clomid/nolva
1,2 200mg/60mg
3-9 150mg/40mg
10-24 100mg/25mg
25-38 50mg/25mg
39-47 0mg/25mg

Holy Serm, Batman! Them there are megadoses of clomid!

You don't do anything in moderation, do you? My non-doctoral advice is to stop taking the supps, don't do any more clomid, nolva, PH or AAS and give your body time to recover. At least 6 months to a year. Then, and only then, if your levels are still low should you consider TRT. By the way, you can't keep messing with AAS, PH, tribulus and those other supps without a very good chance of permanantly messing up your endocrine system, no matter what the gurus say.

Anyway, good luck in OCS and on your fast attack sub deployment, Ensign! But please take it easy on your men and cut them some slack, because not everyone does everything balls-to-the-walls like you do. Again, no insult intended. I suspect this about you because I'm like that too. By the way, if you haven't read Pride Runs Deep by R. Cameron Cooke, it's a great book about a WWII sub in the Pacific. Check it out!

 

[Funny Monkey]

Let me clarify on a few things.
I probably would say I get in close to 100-150 grams of fat a day from olive oil, eggs, and almonds. It has been 5 weeks since the conclusion of my PCT almost 5 months since the end of my cycle. I only did m1t for the first 10 days of the cycle.

So Tribulus is suppresive? First time I have ever heard that.

 

[cpeil2]

Why is your cholesterol so low? Am I reading this right? Total chol. = 112?

Great advice, and very gently stated.


To calculate total cholesterol, I think you also add in (triglycerides/5) so total is 123-124 - admittedly not much better than 112.

 

[greatgro]

Great advice, and very gently stated.


To calculate total cholesterol, I think you also add in (triglycerides/5) so total is 123-124 - admittedly not much better than 112.

No, no, no! Triglycerides are NOT part of your Cholesterol levels! Triglycerides are NOT a form of cholesterol. Total cholesterol equals HDL + LDL + VLDL (very low density lipoproteins). VLDL is usually a pretty low number (5-20) so adding HDL and LDL is just a slight underestimate of total cholesterol.

 

[Viper1]

So Tribulus is suppresive? First time I have ever heard that.

I'm confused as well. What does it suppress? I've been taking Tribex Tribulus for about 4 weeks now, 8 capsules a day. However I've also been taking several other supplements at the same time so I don't know what interacts with what and what doesn't.

I'm seriously considering stopping all supplements except for maybe L-Arginine. I just don't know if they are worth all of the hassle. I've taken dozens of them over these last three years and haven't felt a bit better.

Plus I think I need to be totally clean when I choose my new doctor.

 

[cpeil2]

No, no, no! Triglycerides are NOT part of your Cholesterol levels!

I have seen this formula for calculating total cholesterol time and again:


HDL +LDL+ (triglycerides/5).



Is there now a new way of calculating total cholesterol? If you take the total cholesterol from a lipid profile, and deconstruct it, it conforms to the above formula.

 

[cpeil2]

I answered my own question. I took a second look at some old labs. VLDL was a calculated value. In all cases VLDL(calc) was the same as (triglycerides/5). So (triglycerides/5) must be considered a reasonably accurate estimate of VLDL.

 

[Funny Monkey]

Great advice, and very gently stated.


To calculate total cholesterol, I think you also add in (triglycerides/5) so total is 123-124 - admittedly not much better than 112.

so what exactely would an optimal range of cholesterol be? I am taking in most of the fats required to build test. I also forgot to mention that I eat fish (salmon) frequently

 

[cpeil2]

140-200 is healthier. Anything under 140 deprives your system of the cholesterol it needs to synthesize steroid hormones. You could use some saturated fat. Loosen up a little and have a steak and a little bit of butter.

 

[Funny Monkey]

have a steak and a little bit of butter.

add some butter or have a steak. Right away advice wil be implemented immediately

 

[cpeil2]

Just don't overdo.