swictched to prop from cyp feel better

wrathe

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i still get a bit red in face but not nearly as bad as from cyp or hcg. but my wood has suffered i had wood all the time for the 2 weeks on cyp?? but also my blood pressue is back to normal....i know i am gonna need to incorporate hcg at some point but not sure if i can handle it and if so how to do it with prop....even the dose of prop my dr. and myself uncertain,,anybody Swale?
 
i got this post from yourself from the anabolic board:-

(quote wrathe)
"cyp was giving me major anxiety and high BP. switched to prop i feel much better but my wood has suffered? cyp was 200 mgs a week prop 100 eod..any thoughts?"

on this trt forum you posted:-

(quote wrathe)
"i still get a bit red in face but not nearly as bad as from cyp or hcg. but my wood has suffered i had wood all the time for the 2 weeks on cyp?? but also my blood pressue is back to normal....i know i am gonna need to incorporate hcg at some point but not sure if i can handle it and if so how to do it with prop....even the dose of prop my dr. and myself uncertain,,anybody Swale?"


the dosages you are talking about are not trt doses,you may not get answers regarding your query on this forum.
 
And this may get moved as soon as Swale see's it. As this definitely sounds like a cycle.
 
my dr wanted me to do 200 mgs of cyp per week..actually i took 200mgs first week then 100mgs second week ,which then i got the anxiety and blood pressure went high,and took a week off by dr advise and took blood.
blood came in fine dht a bit low e low t 345 (10 days after 100mgs cyp)

the prop he gave me he said try 100 eod i first took 100
(fyi i always cut dose down from what he tells me) then 3 days later 50 then 3 days later 75 then next day 100mgs this is all with phone conversations with this dr.. he likes 200mgs of cyp per wk. and is trying to figure out proper dose of prop.

this is trt though i ask a lot of questions to sort through fact and fiction.
i would love swales input my balls are very tight to my body now,this dr said to start hcg i am scared.
 
toc 67 you advise would be greatly apperciated
u say the doses are not trt doses ...ok please then guide me you obviously know more than me and my dr. what is proper hrt doses of prop??
i know this dr. is on the high side of doses. though he says prop is in and out of you.
 
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u say the doses are not trt doses ...ok please then guide me you obviously know more than me and my dr. what is proper hrt doses of prop??

Not sure if this is sarcasm or not? In and out sure, but you are putting more in EOD you are getting 350mg of Prop per week this is MUCH greater than 200mg of cyp due to the lighter ester in the prop.
 
i assume you are not being sarcastic wrathe so here is my advice.
this is taken from what i have learned on this forum and specifically from swale's guidance(trt specialist).

prop is used in the UK at a dose of 50mg 2-3 times per week for hypogonadism.blood tests will tell you where you are at for frequency of injection.
this is from MIMs book(prescribing guide for general practitioners).

i do not know what benefits if any you would get from using prop instead of cyp.you will need swale's input or someone more knowledgeable than me to advise.

swale however uses test cypionate at 100mg/week after the first week frontloaded at 200mg.he then takes blood after 5 weeks.

click on swale's recipe for trt:-

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/19856
 
Correct, guys.

You should try 100mg per week for at least 5 weeks before ordering any labwork. You need to stabilize, as T levels will continue to rise during that time.

No one should start out on 200mg per week. THAT is why you had the trouble you did. Go slow, stabilize, recheck, redose if necessary. You are jumping all over the target, and wreaking havoc with your body as you do.
 
if the 200mgs of cyp caused my problems (which i may be wrong, though i thought many of you guys front load) then wouldnt 100 mgs of prop cause same issue? thanks
 
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