T500 Enan/Cyp Recipe?

[nkosibaas]

Hey guys, new to brewing and was thinking about trying to cook up some T500 half Test E half Test Cyp. I'm not sure if I got the whole theory behind how the recipes work so I was hoping someone could take a look at this and tell me how far off base I am or give me some tips...

T500 @ 250mg Test Enanthate & 250mg Test Cypionate per 1ml
For 50ml I ended up with:

12.5g Test E Powder
12.5g Test Cyp Powder
1ml BA
10ml BB
8ml EO
8ml MCT (or rtaher 7.925ml of each)

That's 2%/20% BA/BB and half EO half MCT to help with dilution and keeping final product thin.


Thoughts? Am I close?

 

[XmadXscientist]

Your close to pip city. I would pick one and half the concentration.

 

[nkosibaas]

Your close to pip city. I would pick one and half the concentration.

I'm not as much worried about the pip as I am that I got the math right...

 

[Johne71]

I'm not as much worried about the pip as I am that I got the math right...

The math looks fine, but I agree with XMadXscientist. The pip will probably not be worth it and you'll end up diluting it back 50%. Why mix Test E and Cyp?

 

[LordSamuilo]

Ive never personally used it , but its a tested recipe itll hold and your math is good , but why ? I am with everyone else on this one, why do you wanna pin something that's gonna feel like you got beat with a fucking baseball bat ? But , to each their own ! Good luck ..

 

[nkosibaas]

The math looks fine, but I agree with XMadXscientist. The pip will probably not be worth it and you'll end up diluting it back 50%. Why mix Test E and Cyp?

It was my understanding that mixing the two together was easier than trying to get a higher concentration of cyp without it crashing. Of course the context was always T400 w/ 200mg each per ml...

Ive never personally used it , but its a tested recipe itll hold and your math is good , but why ? I am with everyone else on this one, why do you wanna pin something that's gonna feel like you got beat with a fucking baseball bat ? But , to each their own ! Good luck ..

Maybe I should look at a T400 recipe that's 1%/19% BA/BB?

 

[Johne71]

I'm fairly new to all this myself, but I'd recommend trying a 300 or 400 just to check the pip. Why not just Cyp or Enanthate by itself? They are both long esters so 300 or 400 of just Cyp should be fine. I'd rather two three shots with 0 pip that 2 with a lot.

 

[Johne71]

I see your comment about mixing now to get the higher conc. Sorry I missed that and I see how that can make sense. Interesting.

 

[nkosibaas]

I'm fairly new to all this myself, but I'd recommend trying a 300 or 400 just to check the pip. Why not just Cyp or Enanthate by itself? They are both long esters so 300 or 400 of just Cyp should be fine. I'd rather two three shots with 0 pip that 2 with a lot.

Yea man it's just that when you're running over a gram a week of test and Tren Ace with it you end up having to pin so fucking much...I'm sure similar shortcuts have been attempted, I'll try to listen to the people who know more than I do. I'm impatient.

I just see a number of places with Test E 500 on the shelves and people talking about 0 pip with it and I'm like...I want that!

 

[Wunderpus]

It was my understanding that mixing the two together was easier than trying to get a higher concentration of cyp without it crashing. Of course the context was always T400 w/ 200mg each per ml...



Maybe I should look at a T400 recipe that's 1%/19% BA/BB?

Much better.

 

[Wunderpus]

Yea man it's just that when you're running over a gram a week of test and Tren Ace with it you end up having to pin so fucking much...I'm sure similar shortcuts have been attempted, I'll try to listen to the people who know more than I do. I'm impatient.

I just see a number of places with Test E 500 on the shelves and people talking about 0 pip with it and I'm like...I want that!

I have mixed feelings about blends. I make them for myself, but, it becomes a pain in the ass if you want to adjust your levels. Maybe you're responding to poorly to that much deca, but the high test is fine (an example of what happened to me). So, you either have to brew more test, throw it in to dilute to the deca... Or brew test alone and then add it to the pins... No matter what, a bit of a bitch. However, it sure does decrease the volume of oil you're pinning. But, it also hurts more, and leave PIP longer, so you can't repin the same sites as often... It's a toss up, really. For me, I'd rather brew them separately and pin a bit more oil w/ less BB.... Hurts less and slides through the needles easier (lower concentrations).

 

[nkosibaas]

I have mixed feelings about blends. I make them for myself, but, it becomes a pain in the ass if you want to adjust your levels. Maybe you're responding to poorly to that much deca, but the high test is fine (an example of what happened to me). So, you either have to brew more test, throw it in to dilute to the deca... Or brew test alone and then add it to the pins... No matter what, a bit of a bitch. However, it sure does decrease the volume of oil you're pinning. But, it also hurts more, and leave PIP longer, so you can't repin the same sites as often... It's a toss up, really. For me, I'd rather brew them separately and pin a bit more oil w/ less BB.... Hurts less and slides through the needles easier (lower concentrations).

I dunno I guess the answer is to deal with having to pin more volume. Buy 5cc rigs and switch to Tren E? lol

So for the same 50 ml of T400 I'd go...

10g Test E raws
10g Test C raws
0.5ml BA
9.5ml BB
10.75ml EO
10.75ml MCT

Does anyone have an opinion on going full EO vs mixing with something else? I'll probably only use either EO or MCT just from personal preference - I like how thin and clean it is