taking prednisone...testosterone and proviron okay?

[mranak]

so, no mention of what kind of "therapy" you're currently on, hmm, doubt it's much different than mine...

...so i decided to run a very moderate cycle...

1) My HRT is prescribed by a physician
2) My HRT dose is much less than the 500mg/week of your AAS cycle.
3) I'm doing HRT, and HRT is not a "cycle."
4) My serum testosterone levels are maintained in the 'normal' range. At 500mg/week, yours are certainly well above the normal range.

There is a HUGE difference between my HRT and your cycle of testosterone at 500mg/week.

...so i have to be paying Swale to get him to comment, hmm, interesting...

No. Many of the guys in this forum, including myself, haven't paid SWALE a dime, but he gives us good advice nevertheless. We are very appreciative of this.

...you need a good, quality board, come on over to anabolic-review.com...

Tell JohnnyB I said hi.

 

[SWALE]

Boys, boys, boys...

Sorry I did not see this sooner. For the record, those who are helping out by handling my light work, specifically, reinforcing the fact we do not allow discussion of AAS use on the Forum, thank you. Those who wish to discuss steroid use here, all I can say is that gets the thread immediately moved to the AAS Forum.

There are some fellas who have really picked up the ball, and do us great service by helping answer questions here. I have grown to trust their advice. As even a 7 day per week schedule (I am going to take the rest of today off--only the second time so far this year) is not enough to get through my work, their efforts are appreciated more than words can say.

Juggernaut--Your abusive language will never be tolerated in this Forum. You are always welcome here when you want to discuss legitimate issues of men's health, and are willing to do so in an appropriate manner. That means "like an adult".

There'll be scrapes here from time to time. Heck, there has to be, as this place drips of testosterone (albeit at appropriate physiological levels). Guys here are also passionate about these topics. And ceretainly those who are here because they are suffering hypogonadism demonstrate some of the emotional lability that comes with same from time to time. But we can certainly throw a few jabs without a full blown brawl breaking out.

I am going to leave this thread here as an example of what we DO NOT do here.

 

[Juggernaut]

all that, and you still didn't bother to answer my initial question, gee, thanks...

okay, maybe i should have reworded it, here goes...

Mr. Swale, or any other licensed, qualified physician on this board, is there any contraindications with using aas (even at the "small" amounts supposedly used for HRT) and taking a corticosteroid like prednisone???

better?

and mraranak, funny how you still didnt bother to mention your "therapy" regimen...dont think JohnnyB even knows who you are, sorry...

 

[SWALE]

In absence of legitimate wasting disease, there are no indications for using AAS in the first place.

If you take one more swipe at anyone on this Forum, you are history. Have I made myself perfectly clear?

 

[earthdog]

Anyway, no, there is no drug contradiction between prednisone and AAS. There _is_ a contradiction between inflamation and heavy weights.

I think mranak already did answer your question.

 

[mranak]

and mraranak, funny how you still didnt bother to mention your "therapy" regimen

Since you want to know so badly, I'll give you a vague idea:
-200mg or less of testosterone cypionate/week
-hCG twice/week at ~250 IU
-Serum testosterone is maintained within the 'normal' range as shown by proper and routine blood tests.
-Not cycled
-Legaly prescribed by a physician that cares about my overall health

Of course, the above regimen is also used by many other men in this forum.

dont think JohnnyB even knows who you are, sorry...

I think that JohnnyB might be really surprised to hear that.

I don't think you get it. I'm a good guy and I spend a good bit of time on a very good AAS board even though I don't use AAS myself. But this just isn't the right forum for AAS guys seeking medical advice.

 

[Juggernaut]

In absence of legitimate wasting disease, there are no indications for using AAS in the first place.

If you take one more swipe at anyone on this Forum, you are history. Have I made myself perfectly clear?

you can shove this fucking waste of time forum right up your fat ass, yeah, i've seen your pics on your site...i came to you for medical advice, and you still can't manage to give me a straight answer, so FUCK you and this board...

hey earthdog, i didn't really want some yahoo like mraranak's opinion, i needed the legitimate advice of a practicing physician, and i know Swale USUALLY gives good advice in that arena, but apparently, he's too busy at BurgerKing...

mraranak, i can go to a doctor and get a script, just about anyone can nowadays, and i have my bloodwork done regularly for my RA, so your little bullshit comments aren't cuttin' it son...you're using steroids guy, plain and simple...and just cuz my dose is just a tad bit higher than yours, shouldn't make the difference on whether or not i can post in this forum..FUCKHEAD...

thanks again Swale, you fat fuck...come over to anabolic review anytime you need some pointers on how to run a good board...dick

peace
"Alpha-Male'

 

[Arnold73]

I hate to say this, but its guys like this that are probaly one of the sole reasons AAS are illegal. This is the kind of clown that I do not feel bad for when they get busted for using.

AAS sounds likes its working out well for your attitude pally, do you talk to your wife like that or did you already give her a couple black eyes after she questioned you about where the kids college money went , maybe on your last steroid cycle?

What a clown you must be to insult one of the, if not thee best "real" HRT Doctor in the world like that, in his own house too. You are a real first class loser man.

Well....Thanks Buddy for sharing your vast wisdom here, Ive learned alot. You sound like a true gentlemen and a very bright guy! What a snag you must be. Good luck on your future and working with physicians, maybe you could share your great insights with them too as youve shared with us here. Im sure they will be truely blown away listening to you.

 

[SWALE]

Hehehehehehe. This guy's a real hoot. I wonder what part of "I do not give advice on how to use steroids" he cannot grasp.

What sort of emotional challenge causes a guy to come here, think he can demand FREE medical advice, while insulting our good members, then call me what he did when he does not get his way? "Alpha-male"? He's more like a little puppy, nipping at our pant cuffs.

Well, I guess me, my 47 year old six pack (abs, not beer, but I like beer too), and the other Bro's here will some how have to make it without Juggernaut. I do not know how old he is, but IF (and with his 'tude, it's more likely someone will put him out of his misery) he makes it that far, it'll be good to see if he "walks the walk" then, as I do. I also think he needs to have his eyes examined, if that is what he thinks he sees on my website.

IMPO, this is NOT a case of 'roid rage. It's just a guy who did not know how to act BEFORE he took his first shot.

AR is a pretty good Board, though.

DANG, Arnold, you're pretty good at dressing out the "issued". Man!

Tell me, guys, is there something in the water lately, that these strange characters are suddenly climbing out of the woodwork?

It's feeding time, Boyz.

 

[mranak]

...do you talk to your wife like that...

Apparently, yes: http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.php?p=2019552

 

[SWALE]

Nice!

 

[stat1951]

Apparently, yes: http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.php?p=2019552

The whole thread is quite, uh, entertaining.....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=187920


Larry

 

[Arnold73]

That thread is pretty funny, thanks guys

It just baffles me when some guys get on here and say something along the lines of "Im on 10 Units of Growth Hormone and a Gram of Testosterone, How come have this problem Doc? "

And then the good doctor says "I cant help you Son, accept by telling you to get off the damn mega doses of steroids, and then we will talk about your problems, OK? ".

And then the other guy goes like this guy "Well Fuck You then, i was just asking for your help !!!".

I didnt want to rip into him Swale, but his offensive comments to you offended me also man, I guess thats why I come to this board because of the respect each one has here for one another. Some of the other boards make me sick with the lack of respect they show. Im sure this guy is a mod or something at one of those places and is used to talking down to people.

 

[SWALE]

Well said.

We do have a fine community here. Boyz will be boyz, and so a little scrape will break out from time to time, but we do a very good job of respecting each other.

When guys like this "juggernaut" character try to pollute our Forum, we will have a little fun with them, though. But only if they really deserve it.

 

[Juggernaut]

well, i thought it was pretty clear that my name over at AR was "Alpha-Male"...so do your searches again, and you'll see that i've contributed quite a bit in a short amount of time...yes, i've been using for about 10 years, off and on, and the funny thing is, i've never even come close to a gram a week of test, or even tried growth, but have somehow managed to meet and exceed many who have...

Arnold, poor guy, yeah, you really "ripped into me"...you typed a bunch of words and showed me who's boss, huh? i won't even go there...yes, i must admit, the big things don't get to me, it's always the little stuff, and dammit, all i wanted to know, FROM A DOCTOR'S MOUTH, is if prednisone and steroids were okay to mix, since i was just recently diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and did not want to approach my doc for fear of insurance problems...

Swale, i apologize, but you give "free" medical advice in this forum all day long, i just don't get it

everyone else, with your 200mg/wk hrt regimens so you can hopefully get it up later to stick to your wives, kiss my 29 year old, 6'1" 252lb, 12% bf rock hard ass...if you're every in Houston, please, PLEASE look me up

 

[ENDRO]

well, i thought it was pretty clear that my name over at AR was "Alpha-Male"...so do your searches again, and you'll see that i've contributed quite a bit in a short amount of time...yes, i've been using for about 10 years, off and on, and the funny thing is, i've never even come close to a gram a week of test, or even tried growth, but have somehow managed to meet and exceed many who have...

Arnold, poor guy, yeah, you really "ripped into me"...you typed a bunch of words and showed me who's boss, huh? i won't even go there...yes, i must admit, the big things don't get to me, it's always the little stuff, and dammit, all i wanted to know, FROM A DOCTOR'S MOUTH, is if prednisone and steroids were okay to mix, since i was just recently diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and did not want to approach my doc for fear of insurance problems...

Swale, i apologize, but you give "free" medical advice in this forum all day long, i just don't get it

everyone else, with your 200mg/wk hrt regimens so you can hopefully get it up later to stick to your wives, kiss my 29 year old, 6'1" 252lb, 12% bf rock hard ass...if you're every in Houston, please, PLEASE look me up [/QUOTE(]

(i could "feel" that my test levels were probably very low, so i began a minimal run of testE and 500mg/wk with some proviron) These are your words at the age of 29 sounds like you are way ahead of the rest of us when it comes to cant get it up so it will be interesting to see where you are at when you hit 40!
Now for the original question I don't know why there would be any type of interaction with straight test since it is produced naturaly in the body and if it where to create a bad reaction no male or female could use it. It is interesting you choose to use proviron with the test since it helps free up bound test and create more sex drive by replacing and increasing sexual function test. Are you having a little problem down stairs these days?

 

[mranak]

Juggernaut: You aren't on HRT, primarily because you are maintaining your serum testosterone at supraphysiological levels. Most of us only need about 100mg of test cyp/week in order to get near the top of the range, although I apparently need a bit more to do same.

If I linked to a posting that was not yours, then I do appologize. Such as not intentional.

What is it with the comment about looking you up if one of us come into Houston? What does that mean?

 

[ENDRO]

Juggernaut: You aren't on HRT, primarily because you are maintaining your serum testosterone at supraphysiological levels. Most of us only need about 100mg of test cyp/week in order to get near the top of the range, although I apparently need a bit more to do same.

If I linked to a posting that was not yours, then I do appologize. Such as not intentional.

What is it with the comment about looking you up if one of us come into Houston? What does that mean?

I am surprised he is only 252 lbs at 6' 1", on all the many years I have been on the boards I thought nobody was any smaller then 280 lbs at 12% body fat!

 

[ENDRO]

side effects) High blood pressure; Vertigo; Clotting within a blood vessel; Insomnia; Gastric or intestinal ulcers; Vomiting; Severe skin
itching with patches; Vein inflamation with clot formation; Jerkings of face, trunk, or extremities; Peripheral neuritis;
Inflammation of the pancreas; Nausea; Increased appetite; Abnormal hair growth; Headache; Stomach or intestinal perforation;
Glaucoma; Electrolyte imbalance; Skin inflammation; Abnormal blood cell count; Increased eye pressure; Low blood pressure; Low
potassium level; Low calcium level.

(PREDISONE)
If symptoms are mild but do not go away or are bothersome, check with your doctor. IF ANY OF THE ABOVE SIDE EFFECTS IS SEVERE,
CALL YOUR DOCTOR IMMEDIATELY.


(PREDISONE)PRECAUTIONS AND WARNINGS:
* Safety of use during pregnancy has not been established. This medicine SHOULD NOT BE USED DURING PREGNANCY unless benefit
justifies potential risk to the fetus. CALL YOUR DOCTOR.
* STOP TAKING MEDICINE & GET EMERGENCY HELP IMMEDIATELY IF A HYPERSENSITIVITY OR ANAPHYLACTIC REACTION occurs: (see symptoms
below):-
* shortness of breath, fast or irregular breathing, fever, joint pain, fast pulse, lightheadedness or fainting, swelling of
face, hives, & itching.
* CAUTION: Prolonged use may produce CATARACTS and/or GLAUCOMA with possible damage to the optic nerves.
* Notify physician if there are symptoms that suggest BLEEDING, such as black tarry stools or coffee ground vomit.
* Notify physician if signs of INFECTION develops (eg, fever, sore throat, chills, or unusual bruising or bleeding).
* Notify physician of signs of ADRENAL INSUFFICIENCY (fatigue, loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, weakness,
dizziness, and low blood sugar).
* Notify physician promptly if signs of ADRENAL INSUFFICIENCY occur following dose reduction or discontinuation of therapy.
* Because of INTERACTION with other drugs, report the use of any other prescription and nonprescription medicines to your
doctor.
* The results of some MEDICAL or LAB tests may be affected by this medicine. Inform the doctor in charge that you are taking
this medicine.


(PREDISONE)NUTRITIONAL SUPPLEMENTS FOR DEPLETION:
This medication may cause some nutrients to be depleted from your body. These nutrients are:
CALCIUM ORAL; FOLIC ACID; MAGNESIUM ORAL; POTASSIUM SUPPLEMENTS ORAL; SELENIUM ORAL; VITAMIN C ORAL (ASCORBIC ACID); VITAMIN D;
ZINC SALTS.

 

[SWALE]

Juggernaut--As soon as the Admin gets on line, you are banned. Bye bye.