Teenage girls tougher than teenage boys nowadays

[IndividualMan]

I don't really follow and don't know exactly what you mean, I have other memories of what they did unrelated to this topic. Could you elaborate?

They sold the world, set the fire which is still burning on today. Weakened their respective states and strengthened figures around the globe who followed their policies, hollowing out governments, corrupting them on every level. Letting people get away with robbing their constituents blind on every purchase they made.

Believe it or not, strong governments were a good thing once upon a time. Ensured a steady increase in quality of life for the average working person. Held greedy creatures preying on your money in check. The rise of figures like Thatcher, Reagan and others following the neoliberal worldview made by the little midget fuck who calls himself an economist killed one of the greatest global economic developments humanity had ever seen.
Their policies slowed the economic and scientific progress of the Western world, while still siphoning the same amont of ressources out of the countries they subdued. They robbed and ravaged other countries, directly and indirectly, but not to make their own country richer, but to allow their friends to rob their own ountry more effectively.

They stole these kids future, so even if young men nowadays werent such fat, broken chuds due to the various factors others have named in this thread, they would still most likely get crushed due to economic policy decisions from the 80s.
You gotta be extremely resilient, intelligent or lucky to make it today. And by making it, I mean living a normal, respectable, stable life. Something that was a guarantee not even 30 years ago, assuming you werent a massive fuckup.

 

[deadbeef]

This trope is as old as time. I bet neanderthals sat around the fire grunting how the youngins can't hunt mammoths like they used to.

 

[Amgiji]

you've clearly never head of minimum wage minimum effort.

from the time you're talking about to now productivity had doubled and wages went up 10%

no one with any sense will display git, courage and suffer to make you rich instead of themselves.

the livening wage is over 54$ an hour
start offering that and those same pussies will find a way to work on 2 broken legs.

the reason why you get more women willing to put up with it,

is that same as to why they are still going to college
going into 100,000's of dollars debt when 9 times out of 10 there is no open positions in their field,

they have no sense when something is a fucking scam.

 

[Civdiv]

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This trope is as old as time. I bet neanderthals sat around the fire grunting how the youngins can't hunt mammoths like they used to

Totally agree but something feels different about these new generations. Every generation has had it easier than the last as technology improves. The difference I see now is not only are things easier, but there's an attitude of deserving success rather than earning it. It seems like I hear a lot about fairness. Work ethic isn't as prevalent as it used to be. Things like volunteering for extra hours to stand out to get promoted or working above and beyond what's expected.

It sounds meaner than it is, but throughout my kids life I'd occasionally give one a treat like candy or a cookie or whatever. When the other would see it and say "that's not fair I want one too", I'd always respond that the world's not fair. No one deserves something just because someone else got something. How can you earn a treat. I know every parent sees their kids in the best light possible but I really believe things like this have made a difference in the effort they put into life. There's a noticeable difference when they stay at friends houses and their friends leave plates and dishes for their parents to clean up and my kids always take responsibility and clean up their own mess. Just little things like that I guess.

Work ethic still exists but it's rare and also not rewarded anymore. People aren't promoted for their hard work. They're promoted because they've been there longer or are popular with the management. Honestly I guess I understand the lack of going the extra mile if there's no reward at the finish line. Pride in a job well done eventually fades with no recognition. We'll damn. I guess the world's just screwed all around.

 

[cousinmuscles]

you've clearly never head of minimum wage minimum effort.

from the time you're talking about to now productivity had doubled and wages went up 10%

no one with any sense will display git, courage and suffer to make you rich instead of themselves.

the livening wage is over 54$ an hour
start offering that and those same pussies will find a way to work on 2 broken legs.

the reason why you get more women willing to put up with it,

is that same as to why they are still going to college
going into 100,000's of dollars debt when 9 times out of 10 there is no open positions in their field,

they have no sense when something is a fucking scam.

Can you tell me what wages I'm paying? Because I must not know myself.

I'll pay $154 an hour if you want, but you have to show me that it is profitable.

If someone is complaining that they're not getting paid enough, they should simply find another job. Even better would be to do like I do, start your own business and stop begging for someone to save you.

 

[cousinmuscles]

This trope is as old as time. I bet neanderthals sat around the fire grunting how the youngins can't hunt mammoths like they used to.

Did those neanderthals complain that the females are getting better at hunting mammoths though?

 

[Civdiv]

The more I think about this I think the girls applying for work that op is describing are just a small subset of of women. I think about the average woman in my gym. Hair and makeup done and whoring herself out for attention VS there to put in real work. I think social media has increased women's sense of self worth and the ones with real value just stand out because it's rare.


Unrelated, I forgot all the details but remember an article talking about the effects of hormonal birth control on women. It nukes their libido, and changes their natural attraction from alpha hunters and gatherers to submissive men they can control. That might explain the proliferation of week men in relationships. I know more people than not where the wife in the relationship 100% directs the funds, drives the male around, makes all the decisions and treats their partner like a child. Weak men make more weak men. Seems plausible that society has shifted to a preference for weak men over the years of birth control given since age 15-16. Just a random thought.

 

[cousinmuscles]

The more I think about this I think the girls applying for work that op is describing are just a small subset of of women. I think about the average woman in my gym. Hair and makeup done and whoring herself out for attention VS there to put in real work. I think social media has increased women's sense of self worth and the ones with real value just stand out because it's rare.


Unrelated, I forgot all the details but remember an article talking about the effects of hormonal birth control on women. It nukes their libido, and changes their natural attraction from alpha hunters and gatherers to submissive men they can control. That might explain the proliferation of week men in relationships. I know more people than not where the wife in the relationship 100% directs the funds, drives the male around, makes all the decisions and treats their partner like a child. Weak men make more weak men. Seems plausible that society has shifted to a preference for weak men over the years of birth control given since age 15-16. Just a random thought.

Yes, that is correct. I apply my methods for screening people, and I have been refining this for years. As I mentioned seeing what environment they come from and what values they hold makes a big difference, along with rapid cognition, intelligence, speaking ability, age, future ambitions, although with just an application and then a short interview I can only really see if they're OK and then they get to try working for a day, as long as they try hard, after that it is half way up to me how much I try to improve them and if they decide to stay and keep getting better.

I am just stating my observations that this group of young people, the males more often can't hold their ground (but many times talk a lot of what they can), while the females come shy and humble yet more often cling on and become good. One thing though, if a boy with no good father figure/parents on welfare/any kind of that shit, I have yet to see it result in anything than wasted time, money, and massive headaches.

Re the birth control, Jordan Peterson mentioned that a while ago. By the way, think of it, a teenage girl taking birth control "just in case". I mean OK, after getting in a relationship, but then those effects aren't there...

 

[cousinmuscles]

Well, hormone levels being altered by pesticides like atrazine on a mass scale will impact culture. There are studies about testosterone and political leaning for example.

Testosterone Administration Induces a Red Shift in Democrats - PMC

An experiment was run to test if a testosterone administration would influence the political preferences of 136 healthy males. Synthetic testosterone or placebo was administered to participants who identified the strength of their political ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I agree these things will change behaviour long term, however in this case it can't explain the whole situation. It's not like the girls I hired have higher testosterone than the boys (LOL).

 

[osqe]

I agree these things will change behaviour long term, however, in this case, it can't explain the whole situation. It's not like the girls I hired have higher testosterone than the boys (LOL).

Of course, they don't have higher test, but my point is, the fact that atrazine lowers estrogen in females while lowering test and raising estrogen in males is at a minimum 1/4 of the total picture.
Another piece is the societal push to demonize masculinity in males. As someone in my 20’s, who dealt with it for as long as I have memories, it is undeniable. I could give plenty of anecdotes but nobody cares. Those experiences didn't impact my outlook much but they made me realize how intentional and deliberate society is in attempting to artificially manufacture a new social hierarchy. The only issue with discussing it is the fact that it isn't a measurable quantity like atrazine can be so it is hard to quantify its impact.

 

[cousinmuscles]

Of course, they don't have higher test, but my point is, the fact that atrazine lowers estrogen in females while lowering test and raising estrogen in males is at a minimum 1/4 of the total picture.
Another piece is the societal push to demonize masculinity in males. As someone in my 20’s, who dealt with it for as long as I have memories, it is undeniable. I could give plenty of anecdotes but nobody cares. Those experiences didn't impact my outlook much but they made me realize how intentional and deliberate society is in attempting to artificially manufacture a new social hierarchy. The only issue with discussing it is the fact that it isn't a measurable quantity like atrazine can be so it is hard to quantify its impact.

I studied to become a teacher a long time ago. Didn't know that academia was run by commies in disguise. First course, first semester, a short haired, boot wearing, trenchcoat dressed woman held a lecture about how she made a study once that showed how males dominate the classroom. In this study, she sat down and listened in a live classroom and noted how many times girls vs boys took the initiative to talk, through answering the teachers question or any other way. She found that 80% of the time, girls initiated talking and spoke approximately the same amount of the time, but when the boys talked, they "took more space", did it "dominantly" and some other obscure descriptions. The conclusion you were supposed to make is to punish boys for talking in the classroom.

I don't have time to describe the countless other stories so I will end it there. In essence, teaching programs in the west, and even curriculums, show that education is not primarily for teaching science, literacy, logic, but rather indoctrinating the future population on what "democracy" means and what they should vote for and what is wrong to vote for. If you read the fine print, you will continuously find the words gender, class, ethnicity and environment, and always, the structure of this terminology makes it so that you end up with more government, more control over you, "for your own good", and in an endless spiral of contradictions, outright lies, fallacies. And if you search for the source of this crap you will find, always, Marxist "professors" who have spent their whole life "studying" how to make society better yet have never done anything great themselves.

The common person doesn't have the courage to speak up against their professor when they pull this shit in class. When they do, they experience a witch hunt from the faculty, and will be ostracized by most other classmates because nobody wants to risk being seen in a bad light in the eyes of teachers. When you do present your argument in a proper way and demolish the professor, guess what, it doesn't change anything. That professor will go on and pull the same shit to next class. You can report them for their shit, but they themselves are the judges of the case. Almost all honest and real people quit the program, and what you have left is 90% of the teachers voting for the socialist party, a few percent the commie party, a few percent the green party, and some lone wolf witch hunted normal sane people. Think now, these are the people your kids will be spending hours every day with, and their world view, political philosophy and morals will be conditioned into them as universal truths. And if they go to college, they get an in depth course in this crap.

The pussification of men is just one part of the whole thing. A pussified man and a broken family is the easiest recipe for control. They will fully believe that life without government dependence doesn't exist.

Of course this will not work for everyone. Neither will low testosterone make all men pussies. However the more you break culture and traditions, the easier it is to indoctrinate these ideas into people.

 

[Liter O' Test]

I don't really have the time to make a thorough post to fully explain what I am trying to convey, so I will try to keep it short, to the point, and make my claims from my constant observations (feel free to call it BS, I am not trying to change your world view, and you are free to think whatever you want of my world view).

I run a business and hire 16-20 year olds for weekend work. The reason for hiring that age group is because adults don't want to work whole day weekends, and there is zero need for any kind of experience or education, you learn everything on the job. The only thing required is that you have some grit, some curiosity, and some ability to handle simultaneity.

I have been running it for 10 years now and have had a long list of kids that have tried to work for me, mostly boys. Their lack of courage and grit is so bad, that I live in this matrix world where nobody will ever be who I was at that age, and nobody will be there in the future to do what I do. It is as if when I sell my business, there will never be a replacement, because society only has indolent people. I mean, this is horrible.

Showing up to work prepared, as in, have some food before you come, take a shower, come in time, and come prepared to bust some balls and earn your money is unthinkable. It is as if the archetype of man today is being tired, not working to earn it, not mastering new skills, and then complaining about women and their standards.

I have had so many boys come and tell me they want the job really bad, do a half assed attempt in the first day, then chicken out. They don't have the balls to say it after the first day, just be honest and say sorry but this is nothing for me. Or even to come and say it in person. Just send an SMS that they won't come, or even better just ghost me lol.

So many other boys pull shit like working for a few weeks then calling in sick in the morning of the day they'll work because they wanted to go out with their friends, knowing very well they let me hanging. Coming in day after day and hearing me give them shit because they aren't focused, aren't keeping up with everyone else and are basically a drag on the team. After a few times they stop showing that they are disappointed with themselves and act as if I will just have to put up with them because they want money. Then act all surprised when I tell them I found someone new. Worst part is instead being just a little reflective of admitting they fucked up, they see me as the bad guy.

Again, they are incomparable to me when I was their age, so you can understand that I just can't relate to this weak, softy type mentality, I can't stand it, I can't listen to it, and it makes me think we are doomed if this is what the grown men of the future will be.

A few years ago I tried the idea of hiring girls. I previously thought maybe they won't fit as the job requires some courage and grit. Lo and behold, 100 pound little females came and did the job really well. They would sweat, get stressed out, grind, and most important of all suffer. Suffer from having to face the workload and making mistakes, feeling shitty about it and coming back and defeating their own self and mastering their position.

Of course not all girls have been like this but the difference is big. I also have quite a lot of experience in finding traits when hiring, traits that are indicative of if they will fit the job. The boys will gladly fake it and make bold claims about how they will not give up et.c., while the girls will give modest answers but perform the opposite.

My rant is, we hear this constant complaining of women by men. But even if you haven't seen what I have seen with boys, you can still see the pussification of young men. We complain and complain about women (trust me, I did too and have an exotic wife from the other side of the globe because I couldn't handle them from here), but imagine if they opened up and told us their complaints about men, if they could express it, and if it could be understood...

My rant is, for these good girls I have, they will have a hard time finding a guy to match them. For me, I would be disappointed if they got with a guy who isn't a proper gentleman, which entails:

Being able to protect your girlfriend
Showing that you can provide a good future, meaning you can work hard, you can get a degree or learn a skill and be good at what you do so you are in demand, not complaining because you weren't given a good job
Having courage, being able to handle hard times and coming out stronger

Hell, even my dad told me from my sisters stories, that nowadays the girls are picking up the boys, the boys are too pussies to pick up girls.

I'll tell you why it is, its because they aren't treated as boys or men. they are treated harshly for any masculine traits like leadership or assertiveness, but if girls show those same traits, make those same decisions, they are rewarded for it. this makes the boys passive and at the mercy of other peoples emotions and ideology.

the boys masculinity is treated as defiance or anti-social abnormal behavior, but the girls same behavior is treated as "you go girl" or "plucky" and confident, its about defying sterotypes, the girl is the hero with the courage and the boys behavior is interpreted solely as selfishness or arrogance.

when the girls step outside the box, its treated as something with good intentions, a behavior with forethought, if it was totally inappropriate it was just a misundestanding or miscalculation and they still have their baseline judgement intact.

when a boy does this, he is treated as immature, lacking respect or missing some fundemental skill he hasn't been taught yet or may never learn, like a part of his brain could be missing, so NOw is the time to SHOW him how wrong he is, and teach him a lesson and see if that part of his brain exists.or not

people are going to act the way they are treated,

from birth, boys are treated like there is an invisible line around them, that they never know how close they are to crossing it until they are facing repercussions from whatever warped feminine influence is in charge of them (lefty mother, teachers, weak men)

then they grow up and go to college and become even weaker in that enviroment that is set up for women, if they show any masculinity they will be targeted, atleast a few years ago i got so much negative atention everywwhere i went on university because i was tall and jacked among other things. then they get some girlfriend who is attracted to the slight weakness and then he gets further down the hole and shes wearing the pants.
then they get a job but his girlfriend still makes more money (DEI) and he brings his cucked attitude to work and is essentially just a womans decision making in a male body, he doesnt have any male friends because his girlfriend is his life and he really doesnt even know how to make any or that he should make some, and even if he did he wouldnt really fit in

BECAUSE HIS ENTIRE LIFE HE HAS BEEN CONFORMING HIS BEHAVIOR TO PLEASE WOMEN, FROM BIRTH

if you dont disagree with most of what women think and their decisions you are a woman, vice versa , our brains are different.

only one time in my life was a woman in charge of me, ONE DAY, one day of my life i had a woman manager and guess what? I was fired THAT DAY. not by her, but the simp who was dating her because i dont kowtow, and thats what these women want.

they want to strip you off your self respect , they want to have power over you in a way that if a man did, he would be dead or in jail by then

 

[HeatherSwanson]

I'll tell you why it is, its because they aren't treated as boys or men. they are treated harshly for any masculine traits like leadership or assertiveness, but if girls show those same traits, make those same decisions, they are rewarded for it. this makes the boys passive and at the mercy of other peoples emotions and ideology.

the boys masculinity is treated as defiance or anti-social abnormal behavior, but the girls same behavior is treated as "you go girl" or "plucky" and confident, its about defying sterotypes, the girl is the hero with the courage and the boys behavior is interpreted solely as selfishness or arrogance.

when the girls step outside the box, its treated as something with good intentions, a behavior with forethought, if it was totally inappropriate it was just a misundestanding or miscalculation and they still have their baseline judgement intact.

when a boy does this, he is treated as immature, lacking respect or missing some fundemental skill he hasn't been taught yet or may never learn, like a part of his brain could be missing, so NOw is the time to SHOW him how wrong he is, and teach him a lesson and see if that part of his brain exists.or not

people are going to act the way they are treated,

from birth, boys are treated like there is an invisible line around them, that they never know how close they are to crossing it until they are facing repercussions from whatever warped feminine influence is in charge of them (lefty mother, teachers, weak men)

then they grow up and go to college and become even weaker in that enviroment that is set up for women, if they show any masculinity they will be targeted, atleast a few years ago i got so much negative atention everywwhere i went on university because i was tall and jacked among other things. then they get some girlfriend who is attracted to the slight weakness and then he gets further down the hole and shes wearing the pants.
then they get a job but his girlfriend still makes more money (DEI) and he brings his cucked attitude to work and is essentially just a womans decision making in a male body, he doesnt have any male friends because his girlfriend is his life and he really doesnt even know how to make any or that he should make some, and even if he did he wouldnt really fit in

BECAUSE HIS ENTIRE LIFE HE HAS BEEN CONFORMING HIS BEHAVIOR TO PLEASE WOMEN, FROM BIRTH

if you dont disagree with most of what women think and their decisions you are a woman, vice versa , our brains are different.

only one time in my life was a woman in charge of me, ONE DAY, one day of my life i had a woman manager and guess what? I was fired THAT DAY. not by her, but the simp who was dating her because i dont kowtow, and thats what these women want.

they want to strip you off your self respect , they want to have power over you in a way that if a man did, he would be dead or in jail by then

Boys are treated like defective girls.
Society has always been femcentric to degree (women and children on the life rafts first y'all) however now there is a feminine first social primary order engrained into the political sphere now for the first time ever.
Its a giant shit test to a degree - which you can read about here shit tests

I agree with you.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Boys are treated like defective girls.
Society has always been femcentric to degree (women and children on the life rafts first y'all) however now there is a feminine first social primary order engrained into the political sphere now for the first time ever.
Its a giant shit test to a degree - which you can read about here shit tests

I agree with you.

i think i do well on those because i dont let women treat me poorly, just like i wouldnt let a man. i treat them the same way in that respect, those little things i dont I let them get anyway with, probably because i was in the army so im used to correcting little things, im hyper sensitive to power dynamics because of it. also i ignore 80% of what they say because its misinformed, useless or manipulation

 

[Raiders789]

Was skimming through this thread and thought I'd give my opintion as a younger guy -

I 100% agree with you lmao. Most dudes I know are just flat out pussies when it comes to doing anything hard. For example, in my college gym I know literally dozens of dudes on gear that struggle to put in any effort or grit into their lifts. Its like the idea of going to failure or pushing yourself is nonexistant with most of my friends lmao. But whenever my buddies ask to run lifts with me, they end up bitching out of sets and leaving early. And most of my boys are running more gear than me and have been on steroids longer than me but are still much smaller than me.

Maybe I'm crazy, but my favorite thing is waking up early and ripping a brutal 3 hour leg day taking every set to failure, and literally not being able to walk after. I just wish there were more guys who felt the same that I could hang around. I love my bros that lift, but I hate the mentality of "just going to the gym to get a nice and easy chest/arm pump and skip legs." Like I wanna go to the gym to fucking destroy myself and force my body to grow and I love doing it everyday.

And ik the gym is kinda niche but I see this everywhere, wether its students I tutor, or classmates - no one wants to work hard. And no one has any shame in asking for handouts when it comes to ditching class or falling behind with their shit. I mean being a student is the easiest job in the world and you guys would be suprised with how people struggle. And i think with AI now becoming more prominent in everything, it'll only make things worse.

Also I thought this YouTube video kinda sums this up and can be applied to the US -
View: https://youtu.be/VaPIai9P5qw?si=SKSVBVbl0Vj20364

 

[lukiss96]

I have noticed that too, in general when it comes to 2000's and on generations.

Guys are getting softer and girls are getting harder lol, if that's the right way to say it.

Also I see the lack of respect they have for people older than they are. They are not afraid anymore. Random teenagers and some guys in their early 20's act like they know their shit and sometimes superior to men. Kinda trying to test you in a way, so sometimes you gotta show them their place. Feels like if you don't say or do anything they just think it's okay to act like that. Lack of discipline, I believe.

Just recently I have approached a very sexy girl, yes I saw she was young and all, but I had to. Turns out she's 21 which is admitedly too young for me or I am too old for her, which is what she said lol. Anyways she was lost and shocked (in a good way) since I believe younger dudes just are too pussies and afraid to approach girls like her. Anyway, I wanted to share this to stay on topic as it resonates with my own experience.