Test ace Troubleshooting

[Slowww]

Hello, I homebrewed Primo and test prop very easily at 100mg, and wanted to try with test ace, but it hasn’t come out well yet.

I have a few questions on account of I’ve been trying to get it to be stable in GSO,

does anyone know the melting point, and how to get it to stay in the solution?

I started at 18bb 2ba, then went to 23%bb & stirred for over 24 hours and it’s still crashing. Tried heating and stirring at 50*C, then 58*C. First shot for 200mg/ml, with 20g. When filtered all the oil and solvents went through but the raws didn’t pass with the oil. I then tried again at 100mg/ml & most of it went through but a few grams clearly didn’t. Do I need stronger solvents?

 

[Jet Labs]

Test ace will hold perfectly fine in mct oil at 2/20, 100mg/ml.

For your situation I suggest adding oil and crystallized raw back into beaker and let it stir a good hour with more heat. You will most likely need to double the amount of heat used previously. Let sit for 24 hours then filter if solution is stable.

 

[TheHaus88]

So you're trying to do a Test Prop, Primo, Tren Ace blend?

Personally I'm against blends. Some people swear by Sus250. To each their own.

Anyways my understanding the best way to keep a blend stable is to have your portions equal to the same as if they were individual compounds suspended at their normal stable levels.

For example The standard doses for each compound.
Testosterone Propionate @100mg
Primobolan Enanthate @100mg
Trenbolone Acetate @100mg

If you wanted Test Prop and Primo E with a blend you could do 50mg/50mg and it will hold stable in just MCT oil with 2/20 or 75mg/25mg but it should add up to 100mg total.

You want Test P/Primo E/Tren A 33.33/33.33/33.33 or 60/20/20 or 60/30/10 just get it to add up to 100mg You shouldn't have to add anything else other than add BA and BB 2/20 and it should hold.

If you wanted something like Test E which is @250mg and Mast P which is@100mg you could cut the dose in half 125/50 or 187.5/25 or 62.5/75 it's just basic math.

I could be completely wrong. I don't make blends I'm just going off of what I've seen others do. Trial and error if this is your goal.

I like to keep my temperatures low with everything I brew but especially Tren. I want that light gold not sweet tea brown. So you may want to brew individually and then mix together but why not just brew three different batches and make your own blend every time you do an injection *shrug*

Happy Brewing.

 

[Slowww]

So you're trying to do a Test Prop, Primo, Tren Ace blend?

Personally I'm against blends. Some people swear by Sus250. To each their own.

Anyways my understanding the best way to keep a blend stable is to have your portions equal to the same as if they were individual compounds suspended at their normal stable levels.

For example The standard doses for each compound.
Testosterone Propionate @100mg
Primobolan Enanthate @100mg
Trenbolone Acetate @100mg

If you wanted Test Prop and Primo E with a blend you could do 50mg/50mg and it will hold stable in just MCT oil with 2/20 or 75mg/25mg but it should add up to 100mg total.

You want Test P/Primo E/Tren A 33.33/33.33/33.33 or 60/20/20 or 60/30/10 just get it to add up to 100mg You shouldn't have to add anything else other than add BA and BB 2/20 and it should hold.

If you wanted something like Test E which is @250mg and Mast P which is@100mg you could cut the dose in half 125/50 or 187.5/25 or 62.5/75 it's just basic math.

I could be completely wrong. I don't make blends I'm just going off of what I've seen others do. Trial and error if this is your goal.

I like to keep my temperatures low with everything I brew but especially Tren. I want that light gold not sweet tea brown. So you may want to brew individually and then mix together but why not just brew three different batches and make your own blend every time you do an injection *shrug*

Happy Brewing.

No I’m not trying to make a blend, each are separate just saying the ace is being particularly difficult for some reason. I noticed the prop gives a lot more pip than primo, so wanted to see if I will react better to ace Ester as the constant pip with constant prop pins is getting old. Thanks for the info about blends though! If I decide to make one in the future I’m sure it will be helpful but as of now I’m fine doing Single compound brews.

 

[Slowww]

Test ace will hold perfectly fine in mct oil at 2/20, 100mg/ml.

For your situation I suggest adding oil and crystallized raw back into beaker and let it stir a good hour with more heat. You will most likely need to double the amount of heat used previously. Let sit for 24 hours then filter if solution is stable.

I read in the past not to expose it to so much heat, because of overcooking oil/BA evaporation. Is that a misconception/misinformation? Anyways I’ll give it a try, nothing to lose thanks!

 

[Jet Labs]

I read in the past not to expose it to so much heat, because of overcooking oil/BA evaporation. Is that a misconception/misinformation? Anyways I’ll give it a try, nothing to lose thanks!

Unless you're boiling the oil it will be fine and Ba can be added before filtering when oil is cooled down.

 

[TheHaus88]

No I’m not trying to make a blend, each are separate just saying the ace is being particularly difficult for some reason. I noticed the prop gives a lot more pip than primo, so wanted to see if I will react better to ace Ester as the constant pip with constant prop pins is getting old. Thanks for the info about blends though! If I decide to make one in the future I’m sure it will be helpful but as of now I’m fine doing Single compound brews.

When I'm half asleep I miss read things or get topics confused so I do apologize for any confusion. @Jet Labs is very knowledgeable. He's helped me in the past.

I see that you're using GSO, CSO works very well and I think you can brew Test Ace @100mg with 1/18.

I use MCT oil and it works great. If you can get it I highly recommend it. I've never had a problem with it or give CSO a try.

I use a hotplate and mix almost everything for 1 hour while it's hot and additional hour to cool before filtering. I keep my brew temps around 50C but with Tren I keep it under 50C. And yes some compounds require longer mix times.

I add the BB with the oil and raws. I wait to add the BA until I remove the heat. The BA still mixes in.

I keep everything at 1/18 or 2/20. BA/BB

Test Ace is usually dosed @100mg

I've heard guys using EO and I've heard homebrew Test Ace can be prone to crash. If you can get it through the filter warm not hot You can do the crash fix before injections and still be pip free.

I hope this helps.

 

[hijoshiki]

Test Ace tends to crash at 100mg/ml.

I brew a lot of ace and go for 80mg/ml and and 20% BB, 2%BA using GSO.

However if I let these vials sit for a few weeks without fail they still fall out of suspension.

For my personal use I make a blend of 30% Ace with 70% Cyp. I make up Ace at 100mg/ml and then Cyp at 250mg/ml and then I add them together to make up the 30/70 and they never crash when doing this.

Straight Test Ace doesn't have to be at 100mg/ml, it can be brewed at 50mg/ml and give you all you need if doing daily injections or eod. The peak is great enough to where you'll feel it without giving yourself excess that will just spill over and cause estrogen problems.

 

[Slowww]

When I'm half asleep I miss read things or get topics confused so I do apologize for any confusion. @Jet Labs is very knowledgeable. He's helped me in the past.

I see that you're using GSO, CSO works very well and I think you can brew Test Ace @100mg with 1/18.

I use MCT oil and it works great. If you can get it I highly recommend it. I've never had a problem with it or give CSO a try.

I use a hotplate and mix almost everything for 1 hour while it's hot and additional hour to cool before filtering. I keep my brew temps around 50C but with Tren I keep it under 50C. And yes some compounds require longer mix times.

I add the BB with the oil and raws. I wait to add the BA until I remove the heat. The BA still mixes in.

I keep everything at 1/18 or 2/20. BA/BB

Test Ace is usually dosed @100mg

I've heard guys using EO and I've heard homebrew Test Ace can be prone to crash. If you can get it through the filter warm not hot You can do the crash fix before injections and still be pip free.

I hope this helps.

Thanks man I’ll take this into consideration and try some new oil and dose at 100mg, I’m sure with everything you guy have suggested it should come out alright.

 

[Slowww]

Test Ace tends to crash at 100mg/ml.

I brew a lot of ace and go for 80mg/ml and and 20% BB, 2%BA using GSO.

However if I let these vials sit for a few weeks without fail they still fall out of suspension.

For my personal use I make a blend of 30% Ace with 70% Cyp. I make up Ace at 100mg/ml and then Cyp at 250mg/ml and then I add them together to make up the 30/70 and they never crash when doing this.

Straight Test Ace doesn't have to be at 100mg/ml, it can be brewed at 50mg/ml and give you all you need if doing daily injections or eod. The peak is great enough to where you'll feel it without giving yourself excess that will just spill over and cause estrogen problems.

Tbh 50mg/ml sounds like it would be a bit too much oil for my preference on blast since I’m not using any long esters. I’ll definitely give the 100 a shot again first but perhaps the 50mg/ml doesn’t sound too bad for cruising.

 

[Slowww]

Unless you're boiling the oil it will be fine and Ba can be added before filtering when oil is cooled down.

Been a minute but finally got around to brewing the ace. this worked I just used heat at 90 degrees Celsius, in GSO and got it to be stable. Not being scared of a little heat worked wonders, so big thanks!

 

[Diempes]

Tren Ace is a pretty easy compound... if you have any question or doubt bout it, feel free to write me PM. Would be glad to help you

 

[Diempes]

I read in the past not to expose it to so much heat, because of overcooking oil/BA evaporation. Is that a misconception/misinformation? Anyways I’ll give it a try, nothing to lose thanks!

Yes it is a misconception... you have to reach melting point if you do not respect it, you wont succeed... there are some pple who says that the raws melted because it has no more cristals in the solution, but thats not truth, because after some time it cristalizate.
So all that "oxidative" speculation, its all bullsh¡t.
Raws need warm and they do not need 24h stirr... forget that crap. You just need 25mins to make ur own gear.
Feel free to ask me