Drol is for sure a different animal than dbol. Good drol kills my appetite for a couple of weeks and gives me an over feeling of shit. But I love the way I look on it. Full as fuck.
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Drol is for sure a different animal than dbol. Good drol kills my appetite for a couple of weeks and gives me an over feeling of shit. But I love the way I look on it. Full as fuck.
Smart man!!! Tren aint worth it when you have a family and/or career you actually want to keep. I'm close to your age and this is exactly how I run things, stick to primo, mas,anavars and test. Would really like to try some proviron soon, good luck.
DieYoungStrong
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Truth! Everybody reacts differently to the compounds. I loved tren. The crazy thing is I had amazing gains w/ tren A running 300mg/week max as part of a stack. The first time I did it, I ran 50mg EOD and still had amazing gains. And that was like my 5th or 6th cycle, so I wasn't a complete noob either. I always became a dick, and my hairline would thin a bit (which hasn't happened to me with any other compounds). I did love the extra aggression when playing football. Some guys run a gram+ of tren a week. I can't imagine how I'd feel on that much, but I don't think it would be good. To each their own.
Let me know how you make out with the Proviron. Most of my reading about it makes me think it's pretty useless, but some guys seem to love it. I'm always looking to learn.
DieYoungStrong
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Just an update. Pinned week 4's first round yesterday. Today is Monday which is National Chest Day, and I had an insane pump in the gym. Hit Chest/Tri's and Finished chest n started tris of with 4 sets of 10 Dips SS with some tricep push downs. Had 90 lbs slung between my legs for the dips, and it wasn't my Caak. Strength is starting to go up big time and I'm getting a little vascualar. And I am NEVER vascular, even at single digit BF. I just came out to 13% over the weekend. I was 220 on the scale today, so I'm up 5 lbs and down 2% BF in 3 weeks. I'm def holding some water, especially in my stomach, but we will take care of that soon enough.
Libido is through the roof. Kids weren't around yesterday, and had a marathon sesh' with the wife yesterday. Fucked for like 3 hours with a small break in the middle for a ham sandwich
. She's walking around today like she went horseback riding yesterday.
Libido is through the roof. Kids weren't around yesterday, and had a marathon sesh' with the wife yesterday. Fucked for like 3 hours with a small break in the middle for a ham sandwich
. She's walking around today like she went horseback riding yesterday.
DieYoungStrong
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Oh Boy! My var came in today. Things should start shaping up nicely next week or so. I'm starting it on Sunday. 40mg/day for 30 days.
beezil
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looks good. can't wait to see and hear your results.
Is your var from the same lab as your oils? Trying to find a good var source that isn't winny :/
DieYoungStrong
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Serra, yes, var is from the same lab.
DieYoungStrong
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....And now I'm on the Var. 40 mg/day.
Things are moving along nicely. I was camping in God's country this weekend with my family, and some random guy asked me if I left my neck in my camper
Must be my age, but I am getting a little bit bloated. Going to start running a bit of Aromasin. First dose will be after work today. I've never run an AI on cycle.
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Things are moving along nicely. I was camping in God's country this weekend with my family, and some random guy asked me if I left my neck in my camper
Must be my age, but I am getting a little bit bloated. Going to start running a bit of Aromasin. First dose will be after work today. I've never run an AI on cycle.
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Even though the Mast doesn't aromatize, a little Aro always helps keep water down. As you get older, a leaner diet is also necessary. I like your cycle. Very similar to mine, except I've found that Mast prop seems to have a more obvious effect. For example, with Mast prop, you should have no need for Proviron.....And now I'm on the Var. 40 mg/day.
Things are moving along nicely. I was camping in God's country this weekend with my family, and some random guy asked me if I left my neck in my camper
Must be my age, but I am getting a little bit bloated. Going to start running a bit of Aromasin. First dose will be after work today. I've never run an AI on cycle.
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You sound like you're enjoying the ride!
Solo
DieYoungStrong
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Thanks Solo, it's been fun so far. The real fun should come over these last 5 weeks.
DieYoungStrong
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Well small update. I'm a week into the Var at 40 mg/ED (or QD as it seems to be the cool thing to say around here). It's definitely legit. My shoulders are getting vascular, and genetically, I'm about as un-vascular as they come. I've gone to the ER in the past and been asked if I was an IV drug user due to the nurses having so much trouble finding a vein for an IV.
I'm starting to get some sick pumps in the gym, I'm starting to look harder, and my stomach is slowly disappearing. There was definitely an extra kick in the gym this AM, and I've lost water this week, but my pump was bigger. So I give the Var a nod. It's def not Dbol, I can tell you that.
Since people have been asking about disclosure in the other 20 BP review threads, I paid for all my gear with Biologic w/ a small discount except this Var was a freebie. I guess I'm old school, but I don't feel comfortable taking shit for free....except Var and Primo, that shit is so expensive, I will take anything anybody's got I was asked to take the Var for a test drive before it became available to ship out.
I'm starting to get some sick pumps in the gym, I'm starting to look harder, and my stomach is slowly disappearing. There was definitely an extra kick in the gym this AM, and I've lost water this week, but my pump was bigger. So I give the Var a nod. It's def not Dbol, I can tell you that.
Since people have been asking about disclosure in the other 20 BP review threads, I paid for all my gear with Biologic w/ a small discount except this Var was a freebie. I guess I'm old school, but I don't feel comfortable taking shit for free....except Var and Primo, that shit is so expensive, I will take anything anybody's got
I was asked to take the Var for a test drive before it became available to ship out.
DieYoungStrong
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Well I've been busy growing and working, and haven't updated.
I just changed over to Test P 300 mg/week for a few weeks to cruise easier into PCT. Running the Var for another 2 weeks.
I was 220 and 12% BF on Monday. Pretty damn good gains. I started the cycle at 215 and 15%. I look harder then I've looked in years, and I have all kinds of people asking me what I'm on...strong ass creatine. I def could have dieted a little stricter, but all in all I ate well.
I pulled 545 for 3 with straps last night. Benched 315 for 8 on Monday. I should squat 405 for 6ish tomorrow. I've gotten huge strength gains off this cycle. I know these aren't huge numbers, but they're big to my old ass. I've got some real nice vascularity going on in my shoulders and arms. I look fucking huge when I get an anavar pump going. Insane pumps from this var.
All in all this was a great cycle with great products. I give BioLogic an A.
I'd post up some pics, but I value my anonymity, and I don't really feel like listening to the internet workout police coming out of the woodwork like they did in another thread. No, I don't look like Mands or DD, but I do have a better physique then most....from the knees up
God, I am dreading PCT...
I just changed over to Test P 300 mg/week for a few weeks to cruise easier into PCT. Running the Var for another 2 weeks.
I was 220 and 12% BF on Monday. Pretty damn good gains. I started the cycle at 215 and 15%. I look harder then I've looked in years, and I have all kinds of people asking me what I'm on...strong ass creatine. I def could have dieted a little stricter, but all in all I ate well.
I pulled 545 for 3 with straps last night. Benched 315 for 8 on Monday. I should squat 405 for 6ish tomorrow. I've gotten huge strength gains off this cycle. I know these aren't huge numbers, but they're big to my old ass. I've got some real nice vascularity going on in my shoulders and arms. I look fucking huge when I get an anavar pump going. Insane pumps from this var.
All in all this was a great cycle with great products. I give BioLogic an A.
I'd post up some pics, but I value my anonymity, and I don't really feel like listening to the internet workout police coming out of the woodwork like they did in another thread. No, I don't look like Mands or DD, but I do have a better physique then most....from the knees up
God, I am dreading PCT...
DYS, it's sounds like you are doing well on cycle. I just wrapped up my PCT with other gear and have all this Bio stuff sitting here until I can start again in Nov. It's painfull just using supps and peps.
For the next cycle I will do like you suggested and use the TestP for the last four weeks of cycle and move right into PCT afterwards.
fit2beking
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Well I've been busy growing and working, and haven't updated.
I just changed over to Test P 300 mg/week for a few weeks to cruise easier into PCT. Running the Var for another 2 weeks.
I was 220 and 12% BF on Monday. Pretty damn good gains. I started the cycle at 215 and 15%. I look harder then I've looked in years, and I have all kinds of people asking me what I'm on...strong ass creatine. I def could have dieted a little stricter, but all in all I ate well.
I pulled 545 for 3 with straps last night. Benched 315 for 8 on Monday. I should squat 405 for 6ish tomorrow. I've gotten huge strength gains off this cycle. I know these aren't huge numbers, but they're big to my old ass. I've got some real nice vascularity going on in my shoulders and arms. I look fucking huge when I get an anavar pump going. Insane pumps from this var.
All in all this was a great cycle with great products. I give BioLogic an A.
I'd post up some pics, but I value my anonymity, and I don't really feel like listening to the internet workout police coming out of the woodwork like they did in another thread. No, I don't look like Mands or DD, but I do have a better physique then most....from the knees up
God, I am dreading PCT...
This is my exact cycle I just started! I am glad to hear your good results. Great log DYS
SierraBravo
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6'0
190lb
43yrs old
I'm planning a similar cycle in a couple of months:
Week 1-4 d bol @ 25mg/day
Week 1-10 Test E 250mg twice a week
Week 4-10 Masteron E 350mg / week (EOD)
Week 12-13 HCG
Then PCT with Nolva at 40/40/20/10
Any advice? How was PCT? How much of the gains did you keep? What would you change?
190lb
43yrs old
I'm planning a similar cycle in a couple of months:
Week 1-4 d bol @ 25mg/day
Week 1-10 Test E 250mg twice a week
Week 4-10 Masteron E 350mg / week (EOD)
Week 12-13 HCG
Then PCT with Nolva at 40/40/20/10
Any advice? How was PCT? How much of the gains did you keep? What would you change?
DieYoungStrong
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Sorry brother, I haven't looked at this log since I stopped. I haven't done any PCT yet. Just "cruising" on 200mg BL Prop for a few weeks. I've never been a good gear hoarder. If I have vials, there's no way I'm going to PCT. I've been off the var and mast for just over a month I think. I have just lost a bit of vascularity and some of the hard look you get from Mast/Var.
You're cycle looks fine (although I'd recommend running the mast for the full 10 weeks with your test), but your PCT is off. You probably won't be ready to start Nolva/Clomid for about 4 weeks from your last pin.
SierraBravo
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Thanks for the info. I can push the Nolva back a couple of weeks and increase the HCG. I may start it a little sooner anyway. At my age, I try to stay pretty conservative. Not like I'm going to win any competitions. Two questions (1) Did you feel like the Mast cut down on the need for AI; and (2) Do you think adding Clomid with Nolva would help with the PCT?
DieYoungStrong
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Honestly bro, I had been off the juice for years. In the past I never needed an AI, I needed Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD on this cycle. I think as we get older, the need for an AI increases. Have them on hand and use them if needed.
For PCT, again, we are not in our 20's anymore. I think aggressive PCT is necessary after every cycle to insure a good restart. So yes, I would definitely be doing Dr. Scally's PCT program. 2000iu every 3rd day HCG from day after last pin until start of Serms. Then Clomid/Nolva for 4 weeks at 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20 respectively.
SierraBravo
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Thanks. That's great info. I'll add the Clomid. I'm thinking that HCG from the beginning might be a good idea. It might be easier to prevent a shut down than to initiate a re-start.
Got some bad news. My guy called and said he thought the MastE was crap. Said a couple of guys felt it was underdosed or just outright garbage. On the bright side, he gave me my money back. At least he was a stand up guy.
I still have a couple of months to finish this cut before I start my cycle. I have to get my diet right. I really thought I had lost about 4% body fat, but the numbers show otherwise - only lost about 2. It sucks to get your diet really clean and put in the effort and not get the results.
Got some bad news. My guy called and said he thought the MastE was crap. Said a couple of guys felt it was underdosed or just outright garbage. On the bright side, he gave me my money back. At least he was a stand up guy.
I still have a couple of months to finish this cut before I start my cycle. I have to get my diet right. I really thought I had lost about 4% body fat, but the numbers show otherwise - only lost about 2. It sucks to get your diet really clean and put in the effort and not get the results.
