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I don't know maybe I do I thought you used to be on ASF a lot. Either way doesn't matter, but what does matter is I think you have some things backwards. Original post you said it would hold at 150mg with a mixture 50/50 Mig810 and Mig840. Then said it would definitely hold with 100% Mig810. Mig810 is just triglycerides of fractionated C8 and C10 which is MCT oil. Mig840 however has propylene glycol derivatives which make it a lot easier to hold compounds at a higher MG...
Yea man!! I see that now. I meant it will hold with Mig840; not MCT (Mig810)
You're 100% right.
 
I don't know maybe I do I thought you used to be on ASF a lot. Either way doesn't matter, but what does matter is I think you have some things backwards. Original post you said it would hold at 150mg with a mixture 50/50 Mig810 and Mig840. Then said it would definitely hold with 100% Mig810. Mig810 is just triglycerides of fractionated C8 and C10 which is MCT oil. Mig840 however has propylene glycol derivatives which make it a lot easier to hold compounds at a higher MG...
And yes man, super active at ASF.
Used to pick Tone's brain a lot!! Do you know who that is?
 
And yes man, super active at ASF.
Used to pick Tone's brain a lot!! Do you know who that is?
That's exactly what I was referring to or should I say who that piece of shit MF'er.

I hate to have to write that but it is what it is the truth is the truth.

Definitely glad to see you there brother you've always been good to me as long as I've known you little did you know that was about probably 3 or maybe 4 years. Hit me up on wickr or wire if you want to discuss him..
 
If you guys ever need a recipe for anything just lmk.

I also have one for every compound using Mig840....

Glad to be part of a good community so I'm more than willing to give back..
Hey brutha,
What would you recommend for primo e with highest concentration without pip? I have mct , eo, and guac; all 3 tolerated by my system. I also have mig840 but dont know how the system will take it.

primo e with mct and 2/20 for 200mg/ml is pipless so I am looking for 250mg/ml or higher recipe since I am planning 1000mg/wk for 20 weeks for next blast
 
Hey brutha,
What would you recommend for primo e with highest concentration without pip? I have mct , eo, and guac; all 3 tolerated by my system. I also have mig840 but dont know how the system will take it.

primo e with mct and 2/20 for 200mg/ml is pipless so I am looking for 250mg/ml or higher recipe since I am planning 1000mg/wk for 20 weeks for next blast
Why not just stick with 200 and be safe. I am regretting brewing high tren. The pip hurts so i cut it with oil now
 
Hey brutha,
What would you recommend for primo e with highest concentration without pip? I have mct , eo, and guac; all 3 tolerated by my system. I also have mig840 but dont know how the system will take it.

primo e with mct and 2/20 for 200mg/ml is pipless so I am looking for 250mg/ml or higher recipe since I am planning 1000mg/wk for 20 weeks for next blast

IMO totally not worth it for 50mg. You are already into 4ccs if 250mg/ml so minimum 2 shots using 3ml syringes. This will save you 1cc and no shots but hell even 1cc can be done in a slin pin. I've heard of 200mg primo having pop and some has no pip. I don't think I've ever heard of anything higher without major pip and I don't even know of anyone trying.

I offer this as caution as literally every ruined batch and problem I've seen on this forum is someone without much experience going for a high concentration brew that once probed is for very little reason. Good luck.
 
Hey brutha,
What would you recommend for primo e with highest concentration without pip? I have mct , eo, and guac; all 3 tolerated by my system. I also have mig840 but dont know how the system will take it.

primo e with mct and 2/20 for 200mg/ml is pipless so I am looking for 250mg/ml or higher recipe since I am planning 1000mg/wk for 20 weeks for next blast
Hey Brother apologize I seen your post yesterday about this and I completely forgot to respond while I was at work give me about 30 minutes not even and I'll respond with the recipe for and it's not I mean it is painless. I've used it before
 
Hey brutha,
What would you recommend for primo e with highest concentration without pip? I have mct , eo, and guac; all 3 tolerated by my system. I also have mig840 but dont know how the system will take it.

primo e with mct and 2/20 for 200mg/ml is pipless so I am looking for 250mg/ml or higher recipe since I am planning 1000mg/wk for 20 weeks for next blast
Bro I'm sorry I forgot all about you until I just seen this thread again. Also Primo can be made as 250 without PIP. Here's your recipe brother and anyone else that wants to use it to go ahead and be my guest. I've never ruined a batch and believe me and I'm the new guy.

Primo 250mg /mL
25.5% Oil
35%EO
20%BB
2%BA
Carrier=MCT

If you use Mig840 you can drop the BB down to 16% or keep it where it is at 20% and drop the EO down to 28%, but personally I like to keep the EO where it's at if when using Mig840, and drop the BB to 16%
 
Bro I'm sorry I forgot all about you until I just seen this thread again. Also Primo can be made as 250 without PIP. Here's your recipe brother and anyone else that wants to use it to go ahead and be my guest. I've never ruined a batch and believe me and I'm the new guy.

Primo 250mg /mL
25.5% Oil
35%EO
20%BB
2%BA
Carrier=MCT

If you use Mig840 you can drop the BB down to 16% or keep it where it is at 20% and drop the EO down to 28%, but personally I like to keep the EO where it's at if when using Mig840, and drop the BB to 16%
Thanks again for sharing the recipe.
I am a newbie at brewing so bear with me a little as i try to make sense. I must be misunderstanding what you mean.
With 25g of raw powder and 250mg/ml concentration, total volume should be 100mL but with the following numbers using above recipe, total volume only adds upto 78.1mL; its missing 21.9mL. I have assumed primo e raw displace 0.9mL per 1g of raw powder.
Would you mind helping me figure out what I have got wrong here?
Primo250.jpg
 
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Thanks again for sharing the recipe.
I am a newbie at brewing so bear with me a little as i try to make sense. I must be misunderstanding what you mean.
With 25g of raw powder and 250mg/ml concentration, total volume should be 100mL but with the following numbers using above recipe, total volume only adds upto 78.1mL; its missing 21.9mL. I have assumed primo e raw displace 0.9mL per 1g of raw powder.
Would you mind helping me figure out what I have got wrong here?
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Yeah brother I'm not sure how you got those numbers but let me try again.

If you're making 100 ml
2%BA Would=2ml
20%BB Would=20ml
35%EO Would=35ml
That total is 57ml. Therefore the rest should be 43ml MCT if you are not taking into account the powder displacement. However if we go off of power weight being 0.85gx25=21.25. Then you would drop your MCT oil down to. 21.75ml. Now below we will do the math.

BA=2ml
BB=20ml
EO=35ml
25g primo@0.85g=21.25
MCT=21.75ml
Total=100ml

I hope that makes sense for you. I will also post a picture of the anabolic conversion calculator.Screenshot_20191103-133632.jpg
 
Yeah brother I'm not sure how you got those numbers but let me try again.

If you're making 100 ml
2%BA Would=2ml
20%BB Would=20ml
35%EO Would=35ml
That total is 57ml. Therefore the rest should be 43ml MCT if you are not taking into account the powder displacement. However if we go off of power weight being 0.85gx25=21.25. Then you would drop your MCT oil down to. 21.75ml. Now below we will do the math.

BA=2ml
BB=20ml
EO=35ml
25g primo@0.85g=21.25
MCT=21.75ml
Total=100ml

I hope that makes sense for you. I will also post a picture of the anabolic conversion calculator.View attachment 121163
Thank you so much brutha for breaking it down.
It was 25.5% Oil/35%EO that threw me off. With your last post, your recipe is crystal clear.
I have spent a lot of time surveying the home brew section for primo e recipes and the consensus for more than 200mg/ml is that you need to add eo or mig840 or guac to carrier most commonly being mct. Thanks to @LordSamuilo , @XmadXscientist , @baddaddee, @SuperSwede and @Giveitago as well for sharing with the meso community the primo e recipes. Contributing Guys like these and you make this forum great!
 
I have spent a lot of time surveying the home brew section for primo e recipes and the consensus for more than 200mg/ml is that you need to add eo or mig840 or guac to carrier most commonly being mct.

Not true. You can make primo at 300 with 20%BB and whatever carrier you want.
 
Not true. You can make primo at 300 with 20%BB and whatever carrier you want.
You are correct. Would 300mg/ml be pipless? If so, would you mind sharing the recipe for it.

I forgot to add the word PIPLESS to the following statement in my previous statement:
"I have spent a lot of time surveying the home brew section for primo e recipes and the consensus for more than 200mg/ml is that you need to add eo or mig840 or guac to carrier most commonly being mct."
 
Test Propionate 100mg/ml @ 100ml Recipe
10 gram Testosterone Propionate powder (7.5ml)
2ml BA (2%)
20ml BB (20%)
70.5ml Oil
Some clown on here yesterday was telling me what's on us should I say he was making test C 250 with
2%BA,
18%BB in MCT oil.lol

What about test P 150 using MCT?
2%BA
18%BB
10%EO???

hello , test prop 100 recipe :

Test Propionate 100mg/ml @ 100ml Recipe
10 gram Testosterone Propionate powder (7.5ml)
2ml BA (2%)
20ml BB (20%)
70.5ml Oil
 

well now that is a whole different ballgame we’re about to play.

For many people probably. Primo is a high weight compound and tends to cause pip in a good number of people, which is why two really great brewers I knew of only made it at 150. My last two batches I made at 200, one with MCT the other with migyol. I’ve gotten pip with both if I don’t mix it and keep volumes low. It’s pissing me off because I love primo and it makes it hard to get to 800+ a week. I have a theory that’s not supported by much science that the oil is absorbing too fast and leaving some primo. My plan is to remake it at 150-200 with 100 test E using grape seed oil to see if that works for me.

I made primo 200 with 15% BB and 1.5%BA with Migyol carrier, and 18%BB with MCT.

I've made primo at 250 and 300 with 20%BB and 1.5%BA then MCT as 100% carrier and also 80%MCT/20%EO. Don’t think the EO or migyol has made a difference for me. I use .9 as my volume modifier for primo, aka 20g primo =18mL volume.
 
well now that is a whole different ballgame we’re about to play.

For many people probably. Primo is a high weight compound and tends to cause pip in a good number of people, which is why two really great brewers I knew of only made it at 150. My last two batches I made at 200, one with MCT the other with migyol. I’ve gotten pip with both if I don’t mix it and keep volumes low. It’s pissing me off because I love primo and it makes it hard to get to 800+ a week. I have a theory that’s not supported by much science that the oil is absorbing too fast and leaving some primo. My plan is to remake it at 150-200 with 100 test E using grape seed oil to see if that works for me.

I made primo 200 with 15% BB and 1.5%BA with Migyol carrier, and 18%BB with MCT.

I've made primo at 250 and 300 with 20%BB and 1.5%BA then MCT as 100% carrier and also 80%MCT/20%EO. Don’t think the EO or migyol has made a difference for me. I use .9 as my volume modifier for primo, aka 20g primo =18mL volume.
You sharing your experience with the compound is greatly appreciated since you have been brewing for some time.
After reading your experience, I dont think I will try higher 200mg/ml at the most. It is an expensive compound even the raws; i spent over 3.5 bills for 20grams.
I have primo from TGI; its is 200mg/ml with MCT carrier and is tested for correct dosing. And I also have primo e 200mg/ml from pharmasource made with sesame oil as the carrier. Both of these dont give me any pip. I have been using about 400mg of primo per week for my cruise. In addition, my system tolerates guac so I will try to add 2-5% guac to MCT as a carrier or Mig840,
Because i am planning to blast next month with about 1000 mg/week, I was looking for 250mg/ml recipe to minimise the amount of oil to be injected. I rather spent 24 weeks on lower concentration (200mg/ml) without pip than higher concentration and pip issues for a long period.
 
Happy to help. I love primo and wanted to hit 1000 this time but still getting results at 600 or so with 500 test. If I was hitting 1k probably only 300 test then.
 
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