test e cycle plans

[incrediblehulk]

1-8 test enanth 500mg
1-7 deca 400mg
9&10 clen
10,11,12 pct clomid for three weeks

What do u guys think?

Its my first injectable cycle, and i dont really want to run it for too long.

Do i need to frontload? maybe 750 for the first 3? I was also thinking of upping the dose of test on weeks 7 - 8 to 750? (dont ask y?)

Possibly a little dbol for the first ten days.

Want to bulk, will eat like a horse and really want to gain around 15kg off this cycle.

What do u think???

 

[OneStrongMutha]

1-8 test enanth 500mg
1-7 deca 400mg
9&10 clen
10,11,12 pct clomid for three weeks

What do u guys think?

Its my first injectable cycle, and i dont really want to run it for too long.

Do i need to frontload? maybe 750 for the first 3? I was also thinking of upping the dose of test on weeks 7 - 8 to 750? (dont ask y?)

Possibly a little dbol for the first ten days.

Want to bulk, will eat like a horse and really want to gain around 15kg off this cycle.

What do u think???

I would run the test to ten weeks, and cut the dace at 8. And some dbol would be nice at the first 4 weeks, i love it, but is not neccessary.

 

[OneStrongMutha]

I would run the test to ten weeks, and cut the dace at 8. And some dbol would be nice at the first 4 weeks, i love it, but is not neccessary.

meant deca not dace

 

[Deacon]

deca should be run 10 weeks or even 12 for full effect - 7 wont be long enough - take the same cycle and run the deca 10 weeks and the test 11 - like strongmutha said some d-bol would be nice 30 mgs ed for weeks 1-4 but not necessary if you cant get it.

 

[incrediblehulk]

would i nbenefit from doing test by itself or is it worth adding in the deca? remember this is a first cycle?

 

[PUMPED]

listen to decaon he has some good advice...

it is worth it to throw in deca but not worth it if you are only going to run it for only 7 weeks...

 

[incrediblehulk]

its the deca that seems to be the one that peopl wnat to rip me off on. lol

 

[Animalhouse]

hello hulk- whats your weight and how long have you been training pal?

1-10 test e 500mg- load it 750mg your first shot and 500mg later that week the first week only that will be enough

1-8 deca 400mg- a good idea to stop deca early. load it up 600mg your first shot and 400mg later that week the first week again only

dianabol you could use for 4 weeks for 25mg a day for a greater kickstart to things and some additional gains. as its your first injectable cycle test and deca would be a nice enough start- if you are already a heavy weight then add the dianabol. its very important you have your recovery regime in place- use of Hcg as well as clomid. Hcg the middle of the cycle and towards the end- or each week in small doses {which i recently used with good success}- which method have you considered?

 

[incrediblehulk]

was going to use hcg once a week about 400iu a week for the last three weeks of the cycle and then maybe for the first week of pct.

I was thinking about leaving out the deca totally, but now alot of guys seem wuite keen on it. The only reason i see for adding the deca in would be hit the receptors from a diff angle so to speak. But im not sure.

u guys are seriously helpful - apart from the handful of dickheads who think they know it all - dont want to say any names because i dont want them posting on my thread lol (u know who im talking about)

 

[Animalhouse]

-Hcg- preferably use 250-500iu twice a week for 10 weeks. If not 1500iu 3 times a week in the middle of the cycle and in the last week of the cycle. I have had good results with both but using the Hcg each week is the smarter strategy in my book- keep your balls working never allow them to atrophy. that takes care of the first point- the nuts- the second is to get your Hpta going again. Use clomid at a loaded dose of 300-400mg then 50mg each day. You can also use 20-40mg of nolva a day as well or 80mg of nolva a day alone instead of clomid- i prefer clomid alone. i use clomid 6 weeks personally which blood tests show as very successful each time.

- deca i always lean towards less drugs rather than more- but i dont think test and deca are an excessive combination and i love deca for bulking! - but if you are still light weight it may be. whats your weight and how long have you trained mate?

 

[incrediblehulk]

i weigh 86 kg

been training on and off since i was 14 and im now 20. im 5ft 8 just a fraction less maybe.

been doing it really properly i.e. eaing like mad sincei was 18, and have put on 12kg naturally since last ocotber.

 

[incrediblehulk]

ttt

 

[BigJimWest]

frontloading is a waste. you should bump your test and drop the deca. also i would definitly use orals to jumpstart.
JMO

 

[Animalhouse]

I would do the cycle as i outlined above- you will get some nice bulking gains from that. BigJimWest mate- loading is not a waste at all it means the levels of steroids in your body are at a peak steady amount right off the bat instead of waiting 4 or 5 weeks. i do agree loading is less necessary with an oral used also- but i like to cover all angles.

 

[Buff Diddy]

i like your cycle for the most part. def. run the test 10 weeks. but you should go for a bare minimum of 8 weeks on the deca. thats about when you start really seeing it's effects. now what i thought would be a good idea is to run the deca out 2 more weeks past the test to counteract any catabolism that the discontinuation of the test might cause. so run the deca for 12 weeks is what i'm saying. usually when i mention this people tell me no do it some other way. is there some flaw in my reasoning on this? oh and btw 4 weeks on d-bol or a-bombs would def kick start your cycle.

 

[incrediblehulk]

thanks guys.

Wont the clen counteract any catabolism? Thats the main reason its there. If so when should i start the clen?

I was posibly considering not using deca and just using the test. Thoughts?