Test E & P/Tren A/Dbol PharmaCom Cycle Log & Advice

[Marine999]

Hi Everyone, this will be my first log/posting to start a new cycle from Pharmacom and I'm looking for advice on my proposed cycle. Here are my stats and cycle I'm looking at:

Stats:
Age: 46
5'11", 190 lbs, apporx 15% Body Fat
2 Previous Cycles (technically 3 but one of them was crap gear). Both Cycles were Test E, Dbol, Deca. Only sides were bad acne, water retention (moon face) and not enough side girlfriends to keep up with the libido.

This will be my first Tren Cycle... All gear will be Pharmacom. Any advice is appreciated on this cycle

MY CYCLE
Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg every day
Week 1-8 Tren A 75mg every other day, increase if acceptable (~300mg week)
Week 1-8 Test E 200mg a week (will increase equal % if Tren is increased)
Week 9-12 Test P 200mg a week
Caber .25mgs EOD (on hand if needed)
cardarine is 20mg/day an hour before activity
Adex .25mg Weekly

PCT
Clomid 1st 3 days 100 then /75/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Additional Vitamins
- B6 - going to try 300-1000mg ED of B6 instead of Camber but will have Camber on hand just in case
- B5 - (Pantothenic Acid) for Acne... maybe 250mg day then bump if needed
- Zinc - L-OptiZinc 30mg also to help w/ acne
- NAC (N-acetyl cysteine) - for liver protection... 1800-2400mg day
- Asprin - BP Control
- Tumeric - Joint Pain
- Fish Oil - Joint Pain
- Slow Niacin - Cholesterol Maint
- Mega Men Multi Vitamin

 

[JackSmooth]

What is camber? Do you mean caber? As long as your estrogen is in check you shouldn't have any prolactin issues.

 

[Marine999]

Yes... sorry. mis-spelled. I meant caber. Thanks for the reveiw.

 

[JackSmooth]

Yes... sorry. mis-spelled. I meant caber. Thanks for the reveiw.

Good luck man, take some before and afters to show off the progress. Should have some solid gains!

 

[Getfit]

Running something very similar! Have you started?

 

[Marine999]

Haven't started yet... just got the shipping confirmation from Pharma so probably start Aug 1st. I'll take some before and after pics and hopefully it will kick ass.

 

[Getfit]

Haven't started yet... just got the shipping confirmation from Pharma so probably start Aug 1st. I'll take some before and after pics and hopefully it will kick ass.

OK. I'm two weeks in. About to start dbol. Excited to see tren synergy.
Test sust 600mg week 1-16
Tren enth 400mg week
Dbol 25mg week 3-6

 

[Marine999]

I was considering moving the Tren A to the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle since I'm going to be kick-starting it with Dbol. Anyone done this or have advice about running Tren E/Dbol first then drop the Dbol and add Tren A?

 

[Sworder]

Once you stop the tren your gains will stop so I keep that in mind. Push the tren to the end of the cycle or skip it in the start when you are doing dbol. Would increase the tren to 500mg/week..

 

[Marine999]

Here we go. My order arrived today and I'm ready to start on Monday to kick-off August right. I got my bloods drawn earlier this week and my Test is WAY low but I'm on TRT and haven't been taking my shots since ending my last cycle (I did PTC to try and kick-start my test but it didn't work). Test is right at 87 and my norms are usually 250-300 w/o the TRT. So I'm definitely ready to get back on the Test. My libido is shit and dick don't want to come-out and play (considering I was fucking everything in sight like I was 21 on my last cycle). Because of the Low-T to start, I'm considering pre-loading the the Test-P to get in my system faster. Thoughts?

 

[Marine999]

So I'm definitely going to put the Tren at the end of my cycle and I have some left-over Deca I'm going to stack at the beginning with the Test/Dbol... standard stack I've done before for the first 8 weeks then switch to Test-P and Tren-A.

 

[Rigger622]

Hey Marine I am curious because I go to the doc soon and want him to put me on TRT. I was to the understanding no pct was necessary if on TRT, if correct why are you doing a pct and why would you not want to continue your TRT after this new cycle?

 

[Marine999]

Yes... you are correct.. Many other people on this board told me I didn't need the PCT, and they were right, but I thought I might try the PCT to see if my balls would restart. They did not. I just had bloods taken and my Test was at 87... so, yea.. that didn't work. I went straight home and stuck 200mg of Test-P in the Ass. So now I know I don't need to waste anymore money on PCT... Just blast and cruise.

 

[Rigger622]

Sounds good, i seen you posted pct in your new cycle why I asked. Good luck with this cycle looking forward to hear how it goes for ya.

 

[Marine999]

I had some left-over Deca so I decided to add it to my stack for the first 4 weeks. Just finished my firs week of 600T/300Deca/40Dbol ed.. I front-loaded 2 weeks ago with some Test-P to kick-start my cycle and since my starting test level was so low. I'm definitely feeling the Test kick-in... morning wood is back... along with the nooner, the mid-afternooner, and the after dinner wood... ohh, and every time a hot girl walks past in the gym. Started getting good pumps the last 2 days from the Dbol too.
One other change to report too... I changed my workout routine and started following the Advanced German Volume Training (AGVT) and I gotta say it is kicking my ass. It's a little embarrassing to drop all the max weight sets I have been doing but I feel WAY more sore after this weeks routine. Way more sore. I'm gonna stick with the AGVT for a couple months then switch back to something closer to 5x5 when I start the Tren.

 

[Marine999]

Well it's been more than a month since I updated this log so i figure I would throw in my progress and pictures.. I have been doing Test E @ 600 wk, 300 Dbol wk, and 40 Deca ED... Admittedly, I haven't been eating like I should and I travel for work so my workouts have been sporadic but I would go at least 3 times a week... And my results weren't that great... I went from 186 to 198 then back down to 192 where I'm at now. It seemed like everything was kicking in the beginning.. I was getting pumps... noticing the Test in my body... Stronger... I felt it when it all kicked-in.. and then it seemed like I went flat. Not sure if it was just psychological or if something changed but about 5 weeks in it felt like I had hit a plateau.
Anyway, today I'm starting the Tren A. This is my first time using Tren so I'm going to start with 50 EOD for this week and see how the sides are. I'll up it to .75 EOD next week if all is good. I'm hoping the Tren will give me better results. I have the next few weeks without travel for work so I'm going to get more calories in and hopefully make-up for my sporadic routine. Attached pictures are my results..

 

[Marine999]

Bit of an update... This is my first time on Tren and apparently it does not do well for my blood pressure... I have had high BP in the past while on cycle but have usually kept it under control with diet and AI but the Tren is something else for me. I have been shooting 75mg EOD and my BP shot thru the roof.. Crazy high. went to my doc and got put on Bystolic to lower it. I was running 140/90s before the cycle so I was naturally high but for some reason my body does not like the Tren. I hit 122/112. But I gotta admit. I LOVE the gains on the Tren... I'm going to lower my EOD dosage to 50mg and give the Bystolic a try to lower it. I'm hoping that will help.