Test E + Super drol NO GAINS

plus im going to make a strong assumption that you just started lifting again nwhen you started this cycle. so if your just getting your shit back even with the juice your not going to go up to quick till after a month
 
All thoughts of bunk gear aside:

If you're truly eating 4k at 130, you should be gaining weight. Especially coming back with muscle memory. You should blow right up naturally almost as well as you would on juice.

Either you are greatly underestimating your food, greatly underestimating your activity level, or there is some other disorder going on. Are you on any prescription drugs? Are you tracking and weighing your food? Any indications of hyperthyroidism? Fuck, do you have worms trying to crawl out your ass?

Help us help you. Honestly evaluate your routine, diet, and any health issues that may be affecting your metabolism, or your perception of food. Fuck the gear, that's not even of consequence. Doesn't matter in the slightest. Once you get the underlying issue figured out, we can go from there.
 
plus im going to make a strong assumption that you just started lifting again nwhen you started this cycle. so if your just getting your shit back even with the juice your not going to go up to quick till after a month

You made a correct assumption,last time it was the same deal though and it was just pound after pound after pound from day 1. 120-160 in 10 weeks is nice progress(or atleast nice enough for me) I just have a bad feeling about this gear.
 
All thoughts of bunk gear aside:

If you're truly eating 4k at 130, you should be gaining weight. Especially coming back with muscle memory. You should blow right up naturally almost as well as you would on juice.

Either you are greatly underestimating your food, greatly underestimating your activity level, or there is some other disorder going on. Are you on any prescription drugs? Are you tracking and weighing your food? Any indications of hyperthyroidism? Fuck, do you have worms trying to crawl out your ass?

Help us help you. Honestly evaluate your routine, diet, and any health issues that may be affecting your metabolism, or your perception of food. Fuck the gear, that's not even of consequence. Doesn't matter in the slightest. Once you get the underlying issue figured out, we can go from there.

Ive gained like 2lbs and I only started eating right since the day I used superdrol. Right now I am gaining weight at a pace that IMO my normal body could have produced naturally. So really ive been eating right for 6 days, I know I am counting calories right because I have gone through this process before in the past. I just don't feel any sides from the roids and I just have a bad gut feeling this cycle. I was eating less on the dbol and gains where through the roof. I wanted to slowly increase my calories to make sure I do not gain too much fat. Last time I was eating 3-3.5k until 160 then I had to step up to 6-7k but at 3k on dbol I was gaining 1lbs a day.
 
Post up an example of your daily diet and workout routine and let's get to the bottom of this. It could be the gear but the only way to truly know that is after bloods are taken. I have a feeling it's something on your end. You should be growing on the food intake alone.
 
Ive gained like 2lbs and I only started eating right since the day I used superdrol. Right now I am gaining weight at a pace that IMO my normal body could have produced naturally. So really ive been eating right for 6 days, I know I am counting calories right because I have gone through this process before in the past. I just don't feel any sides from the roids and I just have a bad gut feeling this cycle. I was eating less on the dbol and gains where through the roof. I wanted to slowly increase my calories to make sure I do not gain too much fat. Last time I was eating 3-3.5k until 160 then I had to step up to 6-7k but at 3k on dbol I was gaining 1lbs a day.

What is different from before 6 days ago with your eating? You said you have only been eating right since starting drol 6 days ago what did you change exactly? Also curious about when the 2 pounds were gained, last 6 days by any chance?
 
What is different from before 6 days ago with your eating? You said you have only been eating right since starting drol 6 days ago what did you change exactly? Also curious about when the 2 pounds were gained, last 6 days by any chance?

Yes last 6 days but thats due to my work ethic and diet not due to the roids. These roids just don't feel right. Before 6 days I was probably on 1500-2000 calories a day and now I am at 3500-4k a day.
 
Post up an example of your daily diet and workout routine and let's get to the bottom of this. It could be the gear but the only way to truly know that is after bloods are taken. I have a feeling it's something on your end. You should be growing on the food intake alone.

for example lets say

1lb rib eye 1k cals(the 15$ slices)80g protein
2 Sushi rolls 30gs protein 300 cals
2 cans of tuna 200 cals 24g Protein
7x whole milk with nesquick(16-18oz glasses 400 cals a glass) 2800 calories 105gs of protein

This is a solid example of my diet. Its around 4k calories give or take. Sometimes I eat sushi instead of a glass of milk for example so those can vary.
 
Kobe, first stop shooting so many 3's and tell coach Scott that he needs to play you less minutes. Your stats are terrible this year, it's no way to go out.

Seriously, man, there are SO MANY variables here that it's impossible for us to pin down the cause(s) for your lack of results.

I hate to say it, but all of the above replies could ALL be right, leaving you asking where to start in regards to "fixing" the problem.

I am going to lean towards YOU being the problem, the gear having VERY VERY LITTLE to do with your lack of results, and I would suspect that your nutritional counts are well below what you believe them to be, AND your training to be seriously lacking.

For a guy that's only 130, just getting back into the gym (so going from NO LIFTING AT ALL to now lifting again), AND supposedly eating 3,500 to 4k cals per day, that right there alone should have you making noticeable improvements even with no gear at all.

As was said above, you have not been on long enough to know if your long ester test e is any good.

I think you are not as accurate with your training and food intake as you think. I mean, after all, you are claiming to have been on your test e for "exactly 15 days" and then referring to that as 3 weeks? Sloppiness my friend.

That said, good luck turning your cycle around, but you really need to be like a hawk monitoring everything, and record it all to track your accuracy.
 
Kobe, first stop shooting so many 3's and tell coach Scott that he needs to play you less minutes. Your stats are terrible this year, it's no way to go out.

Seriously, man, there are SO MANY variables here that it's impossible for us to pin down the cause(s) for your lack of results.

I hate to say it, but all of the above replies could ALL be right, leaving you asking where to start in regards to "fixing" the problem.

I am going to lean towards YOU being the problem, the gear having VERY VERY LITTLE to do with your lack of results, and I would suspect that your nutritional counts are well below what you believe them to be, AND your training to be seriously lacking.

For a guy that's only 130, just getting back into the gym (so going from NO LIFTING AT ALL to now lifting again), AND supposedly eating 3,500 to 4k cals per day, that right there alone should have you making noticeable improvements even with no gear at all.

As was said above, you have not been on long enough to know if your long ester test e is any good.

I think you are not as accurate with your training and food intake as you think. I mean, after all, you are claiming to have been on your test e for "exactly 15 days" and then referring to that as 3 weeks? Sloppiness my friend.

That said, good luck turning your cycle around, but you really need to be like a hawk monitoring everything, and record it all to track your accuracy.

I appreciate the insight the 3 weeks was my mistake,I meant to say this was my 3rd week on test(Counting the first week). I just remember on dbol feeling like a caged animal.Weight was just coming fast,I went from being weak to being a little bit less weak in a matter of weeks(from 90lbs bench press to 180 reps.) I have a bit of a hard time believing its not the "gear" when I have had prior experiences with gear.Anyways,I hope people here are right and that maybe It is just me. Otherwise,I am going to be extremely unhappy I bought 5 vials of bunk gear......
 
I'd replace the milk with more solid food, and some carbs
Use myfitnesspal.com and track your kcals.
If 4k does not work, go up to 5k.
 
Ill probably get my bloods and post back here to update you guys,What's wrong with the milk? Milk is delicious and decently nutritious. I ordered a testosterone only lab test but going to try to get one that can read my chel
Tape worms bruh. Or maybe they are anti-gainz worms.

Relax bro I would be pissed if that happened. Is bunk gear really that rare?
 
Ill probably get my bloods and post back here to update you guys,What's wrong with the milk? Milk is delicious and decently nutritious. I ordered a testosterone only lab test but going to try to get one that can read my chel


Relax bro I would be pissed if that happened. Is bunk gear really that rare?

Kobe - given everything going on with you, it is imperative that you get a hormonal panel that will include:

--CBC (complete blood count)
--CMP (comprehensive metabolic profile)
--Estradiol
--Testosterone
Etc

It really will give you the best overall profile of what is going on with you, and will give us the best chance to play doctor and try to help you assess your results.
 
Kobe - given everything going on with you, it is imperative that you get a hormonal panel that will include:

--CBC (complete blood count)
--CMP (comprehensive metabolic profile)
--Estradiol
--Testosterone
Etc

It really will give you the best overall profile of what is going on with you, and will give us the best chance to play doctor and try to help you assess your results.

I dont have the money for this lol. It will cost more than my cycle. I payed 42$ for a testosterone only test.
 
This is most people's problem when they aint seeing gains. lol... bad case of the "ED"

For a man that is 230lbs not eating enough can definitely hamper gains. However,at 130lbs steroids should be putting weight on you even if you don't work out. I understand every bodybuilder wants to think that they are strong because of their work ethic but quite frankly at 130lbs steroids should put weight on my ass specially because it has done so before. These are some powerful substances and at 130lbs I should be making some gains. Is bunk gear really that rare?
 
I dont have the money for this lol. It will cost more than my cycle. I payed 42$ for a testosterone only test.

The complete test I referenced (Hormone Panel for Females) will give you everything I listed for $73!
 
For a man that is 230lbs not eating enough can definitely hamper gains. However,at 130lbs steroids should be putting weight on you even if you don't work out. I understand every bodybuilder wants to think that they are strong because of their work ethic but quite frankly at 130lbs steroids should put weight on my ass specially because it has done so before. These are some powerful substances and at 130lbs I should be making some gains. Is bunk gear really that rare?

You just really want to hear the gear is bunk, dont you? You even said you went to another site and when they wouldnt agree you came here.

Is the gear bunk? Maybe. You wont know unless you labmax it at the very least.

But even if it is bunk, youre doing something wrong if youre 130 and cant gain on 4k cals. End of story.

But fuck it, gears bunk. You win. Throw it in the trash.
 
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