Test E/ Test Prop Cycle Advice

[ecal468]

Hey everyone, first thread on here. Need a little advice on my cycle.

Age: 28
Height 5'6"
Weight 180
BF 10% (calipers)

Bench- 325
Squat- 405
Dead- 365

I've been lifting the past ten years consistently. I have done one cycle previously 2 years ago. It was Test E and had good results other then the fact it took about 5 weeks before any effects were noticeable.

The Plan

Test Prop: 100mg/EOD x 4wks
Test E: 300mg every 3.5 days x 12 or 15 weeks(depends on supply)
Arimidex: .5mg EOD
Hcg: 250iu on Test E pin days until cycle ends, then blast 500iu ED for 5 days
Nolva: 21 days after last pin 40mg ED x 2 wks
35 days after last pin 20mg ED x 2wks
Milk Thistle
Saw Palmetto Extract

On the last cycle I noticed my face got a little "puffy" and developed some good sized pimples on my back.

I plan on using the Prop this cycle so the effects will be more immediate and the stopping after week 4 for the Test E to kick in. This cycle goal is to of course gain mass. I was thinking about adding dbol instead of Test Prop, but I didn't want to have to get Caber as well.

If anyone has any advice or constructive criticism please reply.

Thanks

 

[HuckingFuge]

you can run Dbol without needing Caber. Adex should take care of Dbol just fine. protein, protein, protein, and more protein

 

[KillaBig]

It looks like a good plan to me you've done your research.
If your going for mass and size why not throw in the D-Bol,shouldn't be to hard to pick up.
Let the fun begin!

 

[KillaBig]

It looks like a good plan to me you've done your research.
If your going for mass and size why not throw in the D-Bol,shouldn't be to hard to pick up.
Let the fun begin!

 

[ecal468]

Awesome. Thanks for the input fellas.

 

[4leafclover]

If you want the test to kick in faster, why not front load instead of ramp up with prop?

 

[KillaBig]

If you want the test to kick in faster, why not front load instead of ramp up with prop?

This is a good idea,I have personally used when running t400.
I like to stick with one ester or the other preferably short esters
my last cycle was 16weeks using test prop as my base and I loved it.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Skip the prop at the front and tack it on at the end in order to transition into PCT in 3 days instead of waiting 21 days. Pick up some Dbol and run that for your kicker for the first 4 wks while waiting for the test enanthate to spool up.

No need for caber on this cycle, as already indicated by Hucking.

 

[ecal468]

Great advice.

If I hit the dbol for the first 4 weeks instead of the prop, should I dose it at 30mg split into 3x10mgs?

 

[Northern Nutrition]

I found no difference when taken in small doses or all at once. You mileage may vary.

 

[4leafclover]

The biggest reason I split dbol into a 3xday dosing, is to take it with meals. The main function of how dbol works in simple terms, is it shoves protein into the muscles. Making it most effective to take with meals, as your body does not store protein, you either use it, or you excrete it.

Be careful though, 30mg's is on the low side of todays doses for dbol. If you have really good dbol, you can get away with as little as 10-12mg. But, most do not have access to this kind, most UGL dbol is ran between 50-75mg to see results. You could always start @ 30, and ramp up from there if you are not seeing phenomenal results (dbol should pack on the lbs) in the first two weeks.

 

[fokai500]

The biggest reason I split dbol into a 3xday dosing, is to take it with meals. The main function of how dbol works in simple terms, is it shoves protein into the muscles. Making it most effective to take with meals, as your body does not store protein, you either use it, or you excrete it.
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Thank you for the lesson.


"exhaust the body. proceed the mind. cultivate the spirit."

 

[Northern Nutrition]

For the record, i've ran Dbol with food, empty stomach, am, pm, before workout, after workout, all at once, split up throughout the day, and it never made any difference for me. I also never used more than 40mg and made terrific gains. In fact, over 30mg/day i experience twice as many sides.

@4LC, Im not sure where youre getting your Dbol from but IMHO 75mg is borderline ridiculous for an average AAS user. Id be looking for another source, unless you're an absolute monster and close to your procard.