Test in Mct Oil - Levels Drop Fast?

[ackmack78]

Just got my blood work back for my TRT dose and my test levels came back at 675 when they're usually 1250-1475 at the same dose. Only change is I'm using Test C but in Mct Oil this time.

My total weekly dose is 220mg split into 2 shots. I always inject Wed and Sat morn and get tested at trough before Wed injections. The last 3 years, testing multiple times a year, I've either used TRT compounded (sometimes GSO or cottonseed) or Stans Test cyp in grapeseed oil and my total test is always 1250-1475, my highest total came back on Stans Test C.

I've been avoiding MCT because it bothers me but I've had some high quality Goodlyfe Test C in MCT kicking around. This specific batch was tested by GL at 258mg/ml so it's not under dosed. I've been running that at 225mg/week split into the same schedule and my total test results just came back at 675. Weird thing is I even got tested 1 day earlier so it was only 3 days after injection and my results were that low.

My e2 was still up there, leading me to believe that the gear is dosed correctly. E2 of 42 with 1/2 Asin the day after each shot. I aromatize a lot even at very very low body fat.

Any idea what's up? Does MCT really disperse Test cyp that much quicker than GSO or cottonseed.

 

[sionnach]

Your carrier oil might affect the absorption rate but it isn't affecting the half-life of cyp. Either your shit is underdosed or you missed a day and forgot. Or, your body is aromatizing at an insane rate.

 

[ackmack78]

Your carrier oil might affect the absorption rate but it isn't affecting the half-life of cyp. Either your shit is underdosed or you missed a day and forgot. Or, your body is aromatizing at an insane rate.

That was my thought but I'm not super knowledgeable in all this deep stuff. I definitely didn't miss a shot.

It just seems weird to me, this source was known for excellent quality and tested this exact batch with jano and it was dosed correctly. Also those e2 numbers line up with the "dose" of test and amount of ai I was taking and previously having much higher total test numbers. It's just weird

 

[sionnach]

Really not much to do about it other than send your oils off for jano or go back for another blood draw. Or both. But your trough at 110 twice a week should be around 1200.

 

[BigDadd7]

I would get retested. It is strange because goodlyfe was quality gear back in the day.

 

[ackmack78]

Ya it's just weird unfortunately can't retest since I just started a cycle the next day. But I might move away from this MCT oil until my cycle is done

 

[sionnach]

Ya it's just weird unfortunately can't retest since I just started a cycle the next day. But I might move away from this MCT oil until my cycle is done

It doesn't have anything to do with MCT.

 

[ackmack78]

It doesn't have anything to do with MCT.

I worded that poorly. I meat gear that I've used that had blood test results that came back as expected.

 

[ackmack78]

@readalot I've seen you around and you're pretty smart. Fo you have any thoughts on this? Doing some research today and it seems like the type of oil could possibly affect the half life of test cyp. But I'm really not that smart at understanding all this stuff.

 

[Photon]

Post other labs
Shbg
Free t

 

[ackmack78]

Post other labs
Shbg
Free t

I didn't get free t or shbg since my clinic doesn't ask for it. I pulled cbc cmp, total test, sensitive e2 and psa for them.
For myself I pulled tsh, free t4, free t3, lipids, c react. pro, a1c, insulin and prolactin as pre cycle bloods. But I don't think posting those would help

 

[Photon]

Are you running any orals?

it might be due to lower SHBG and higher free t.

 

[ackmack78]

Are you running any orals?

No I've been in a health phase for the last 13 weeks. Had a surgery so out of the gym for the first 6 weeks on this 250 test c mct. Then the last 7 weeks back in the gym at 225 test c mct while dieting.

I just started a cycle of injectables last week, the day after my labs were done. I'm just starting to think that it's possible my body metabolizes the MCT oil very fast. My sensitive e2 at 42 seems pretty high for that dose of test along with 12.5 Asin 2x a week. Esp at my level of leanness. I just did a dexa last week at 6.5% BF probably more like 8% but definitely not fat.

 

[ackmack78]

Interesting update and don't know if anyone can make heads or tails of it. So I switched back to GSO & started a cycle 560 test 200 EQ 200 deca with everything split into 2x a week injections. 12 weeks in I got my labs pulled and did a testosterone test lc/ms and it came back super low from what I expected.

I injected 280mg of Test C, got my bloods pulled 24 hours later and my results were 1668, half of what I expect them to be. 2 years ago I did the same test with the same exact dose and process got a value of 3367.

Obviously my mind goes to under dosed gear, but is there any other way to explain this. The weird thing is that the TRT results I created this thread for the total test value was about half of what I expected and now this test at peak is also about half of what I expected. 2 completely different vendors I originally chalked the TRT results up to MCT oil dissipating faster.

I dont have a batch number for this Test C GSO but it's a very very reputable long time vendor and he has sent samples to jano from 3 months before I purchased this Test C and a month after I bought and all his results have been spot on. He also has like 2 or 3 more tests after that and those were also spot on.

Is there a possibility my body is just metabolizing the test super fast. Could shbg explain it or something else?
I did a 3 week run of tren and 2 week run of anadrol the week before I got this test done, don't know if those could have crushed shbg and help explain this. I've scheduled more labs for next week, but I've already upped my test dose because I had a planned progression before I got my results back

@Ghoul I know you're good with this stuff any ideas

 

[Zc7219]

Your SHBG is low. Your free test is probably way higher than it used to be as well.

When I first started cycling 350 test would put me around 3-4k total, with 200 ish free.

Now 350 puts me at 2k total and I have 900 free.

Just the name of the game. Your stuff isn’t underdosed, your body is just utilizing it differently.

More frequent injections help for low SHBG. you’ll never see super high “totals” again, but your free testosterone will always be high.

 

[ackmack78]

Your SHBG is low. Your free test is probably way higher than it used to be as well.

When I first started cycling 350 test would put me around 3-4k total, with 200 ish free.

Now 350 puts me at 2k total and I have 900 free.

Just the name of the game. Your stuff isn’t underdosed, your body is just utilizing it differently.

More frequent injections help for low SHBG. you’ll never see super high “totals” again, but your free testosterone will always be high.

It's wild that my peak total test could get cut pretty much in half. But it's good to hear from someone else who had the exact same experience. I'm gonna pull free test along with my total on my next test and then I can calculate the shbg from there.
Might be time to move to 3x a week injections after my blood work at least for this blast.

 

[ackmack78]

I was running 550 200 200 test EQ deca and had just pushed up to 800 400 300 test EQ deca.

After I got these results back I was debating just pushing the test to what "should" be a gram but now with your results I think I'm gonna hold off, move to 3x a week injections and just leave the test where it's at, at least until I draw bloods again next week

 

[explodingHeart]

I'm not Ghoul but it's obvious your "mct oil" (or whatever oil you think it isn't) isn't pharma mct miglyol, just shitty chinese probably food grade oil filtered.

 

[ackmack78]

I'm not Ghoul but it's obvious your "mct oil" (or whatever oil you think it isn't) isn't pharma mct miglyol, just shitty chinese probably food grade oil filtered.

What makes you say that? Because the MCT reacts badly with my body?

I'm using GSO now but the MCT oil in my initial post was from Goodlyfe. I haven't heard a bad thing about him but ya I can't vouch for the oil.

 

[explodingHeart]

What makes you say that? Because the MCT reacts badly with my body?

I'm using GSO now but the MCT oil in my initial post was from Goodlyfe. I haven't heard a bad thing about him but ya I can't vouch for the oil.

Because it's Chinese UGL trash. We've been through this topic endless times on this fourm.

You're lucky if UGL doesn't have floaters in it.

Even if domestic UGL, I wouldn't believe them unless they showed pics of lab and their pharma grade carrier oils.

Only way to be sure it's not underdosed is buy pharma test, then get labs.