Test is low, 6 weeks into post cycle - here's my bloods

[gainzoclock]

Last cycle was 350 test cyp and 350 deca per week, for 12 weeks, with dbol to start.

I started clomid, 2 weeks after last pin. I ran that every day for 4 weeks. Then I did bloods and it's not looking good. Test, LH and FSH all low. I'm 24 male for reference.

Clomid is now useless since my E2 isn't high, correct? I think I'm going to order HCG and pin 1CC of Sust in the meantime. Thought?

 

[Sven_Northman]

Do you have low T symptoms right now? Limp dick or feel unwell?
It takes a while for LH and FSH to recover. If it were me I'd run another PCT and get some HCG and pin 2500iu a week for two weeks. That equates to one bottle. Did you run HCG during your cycle?
Then run Nolvadex alongside Clomid. 20mg Nolva and 40mg Clomid ED for 4 weeks.
Or, since you're only 24 don't take anything and just let your HPTA recover naturally. Eat a diet that supports high Testosterone. Do some research on it.

And dont take some Sust. Its only going to shut you down again and take longer to recover.

 

[gainzoclock]

I don't have dick problems. However, I am tired and require a midday nap. Until now, I thought it was the accutane, but it may not be.

I did not run HCG. This will be my first time using it.

 

[Sven_Northman]

I don't have dick problems. However, I am tired and require a midday nap. Until now, I thought it was the accutane, but it may not be.

I did not run HCG. This will be my first time using it.

In that case I'd just skip doing anymore PCT and get bloods taken again in a month. If you have libido issues then yeah, run a PCT with HCG first.

For future runs add in HCG around week 2 at 250iu twice a week if you plan to PCT at the end. When the bottle runs out take a 2 week break then start again to prevent desensitization.

 

[Eman]

Your PCT was timed incorrectly and you took bloods too soon.

What was your clomid dose?

What was your precycle bloods?

Starting sustanon and HCG while you're shutdown makes zero sense and will only be counterproductive.

 

[Sven_Northman]

Your PCT was timed incorrectly and you took bloods too soon.

What was your clomid dose?

What was your precycle bloods?

Starting sustanon and HCG while you're shutdown makes zero sense and will only be counterproductive.

True. I don't start PCT until 21 days after my last pin. How long do you advise one waits?

 

[Eman]

True. I don't start PCT until 21 days after my last pin. How long do you advise one waits?

Depends on what one pins and how much one pins... However, you'll usually be okay with 21-28 days. Hcg is also a pretty important part IMO.

 

[gainzoclock]

I also took adex while on cycle. 0.5 EOD during dbol then 0.25 EOD rest of cycle.

Clomid dose was 50mg per day. Could it be bunk if LH and FSH are still low?

 

[Eman]

I also took adex while on cycle. 0.5 EOD during dbol then 0.25 EOD rest of cycle.

Clomid dose was 50mg per day. Could it be bunk if LH and FSH are still low?

Was it pharma?

 

[gainzoclock]

Was it pharma?

No it was from a peptide company. Should I order pharma clomid and run it again?

 

[bob357sig]

No it was from a peptide company. Should I order pharma clomid and run it again?

I would recommend doing just that. In the future, Always use pharma pct meds. They are not very expensive for something so important. Pharma AI, clomid and nolva is easily attainable from a few reputable sources here.

 

[gainzoclock]

I would recommend doing just that. In the future, Always use pharma pct meds. They are not very expensive for something so important. Pharma AI, clomid and nolva is easily attainable from a few reputable sources here.

Okay ordered pharma hcg, clomid and nolva, as all have been mentioned in this thread. Do you also think I should run hcg for 2 weeks before clomid?

Also, I looked up the source I bought from, and it has good reviews. I think the clomid may have been legit but didn't do anything.

 

[TNotch347]

How long has it been since you stopped pct? If it’s already been weeks and your still low, let your body do it’s job.

 

[Eman]

Okay ordered pharma hcg, clomid and nolva, as all have been mentioned in this thread. Do you also think I should run hcg for 2 weeks before clomid?

Also, I looked up the source I bought from, and it has good reviews. I think the clomid may have been legit but didn't do anything.

The clomid was probably fine but who knows... With pharma, you can leave the maybes and probablys out of the equation.

The real problem was that you had the timing all messed up and didn't do things quite right. Most common mistake for failed pct but you also have no precycle bloods that you've posted so don't really know where you're supposed to be at either.

 

[gainzoclock]

The clomid was probably fine but who knows... With pharma, you can leave the maybes and probablys out of the equation.

The real problem was that you had the timing all messed up and didn't do things quite right. Most common mistake for failed pct but you also have no precycle bloods that you've posted so don't really know where you're supposed to be at either.

I will get my T levels. I have previous blood work but LifeLabs was hacked and froze all accounts. Waiting to hear back from customer service to get back into my account, likely Monday.

So once my hcg arrives, about 8 weeks after my last nand pin, i am thinking:

day 1: 750iu
day 3: 750iu
day 5: 750iu
day 7: 500iu
day 9: 500iu
day 11: 500iu
day 13: 250iu
day 15: 250iu
day 20: clomid and nolva

if this doesn't work then i'm screwed and i gotta go on cruise/trt for life?

 

[Eman]

I will get my T levels. I have previous blood work but LifeLabs was hacked and froze all accounts. Waiting to hear back from customer service to get back into my account, likely Monday.

So once my hcg arrives, about 8 weeks after my last nand pin, i am thinking:

day 1: 750iu
day 3: 750iu
day 5: 750iu
day 7: 500iu
day 9: 500iu
day 11: 500iu
day 13: 250iu
day 15: 250iu
day 20: clomid and nolva

I would just run 500iu straight through similar to how you have it, no need to switch the dosing all up.

Just start the clomid and nolva on the 15th day.

if this doesn't work then i'm screwed and i gotta go on cruise/trt for life?

Don't be a drama queen... I don't know why people think it works that way.

 

[gainzoclock]

I would just run 500iu straight through similar to how you have it, no need to switch the dosing all up.

Just start the clomid and nolva on the 15th day.



Don't be a drama queen... I don't know why people think it works that way.

Will do. Was hoping to start a cycle after my 3 months off were done (March 1) but looks like I'll have to wait.

And I'm just bracing myself for possibilities. Don't mean to come across dramatic

 

[The Terminator]

I will get my T levels. I have previous blood work but LifeLabs was hacked and froze all accounts. Waiting to hear back from customer service to get back into my account, likely Monday.

So once my hcg arrives, about 8 weeks after my last nand pin, i am thinking:

day 1: 750iu
day 3: 750iu
day 5: 750iu
day 7: 500iu
day 9: 500iu
day 11: 500iu
day 13: 250iu
day 15: 250iu
day 20: clomid and nolva

if this doesn't work then i'm screwed and i gotta go on cruise/trt for life?

Then you take a higher dose, what you have listed is not really a high dose when using hCG without roids.

 

[brownbro]

I wouldn’t mess around with anymore meds at this point.
Id go see a doctor, mention low testosterone symptoms, get bloods tested again....you might need TRT or the doc may prescribe the HCG...worth a try in my opinion. (You don’t have to mention the steroid use to the doc if you don’t want either, just mention low T symptoms for a long time)

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

Do you have low T symptoms right now? Limp dick or feel unwell?
It takes a while for LH and FSH to recover. If it were me I'd run another PCT and get some HCG and pin 2500iu a week for two weeks. That equates to one bottle. Did you run HCG during your cycle?
Then run Nolvadex alongside Clomid. 20mg Nolva and 40mg Clomid ED for 4 weeks.
Or, since you're only 24 don't take anything and just let your HPTA recover naturally. Eat a diet that supports high Testosterone. Do some research on it.

And dont take some Sust. Its only going to shut you down again and take longer to recover.

That’s some fucking rich piana doses right there champ.