Test P/Mast P/Tren A cycle - dick not working

[phenominal34]

What about just increasing the test and keeping tren the same?

Why ask questions if your not going to listen to advice. Why don’t you want to drop the Tren dose you clown ? You think your to cool to run Tren at 210 - 280 ? That’s plenty !!!!

 

[Deadp007]

I'd venture your tren to test ratio & the use of finastride is a one two combination to the dick & it got knocked the fuck out.
Some people can run higher 19nor ratios to test, I'm not one of them & apparently neither are you.
Side note: when you start recovering you'll be a anorgasmic for a while.

 

[Jbagel132]

I guess I’m just failing to understand why caber isn’t an option? It seems to often be brought up when discussing Tren.

 

[Rido]

I guess I’m just failing to understand why caber isn’t an option? It seems to often be brought up when discussing Tren.

one drug to fix another drug. I guess its going to go back to, is this necessary? Do you know what your prolactin is?
Are you competing?

I am not trying to start an argument but just discussing why dont you bring your dose back down? you arent a little bitch if you do.

It is hard to take a step back in regards to dosing, you feel like you failed.

 

[Jbagel132]

one drug to fix another drug. I guess its going to go back to, is this necessary? Do you know what your prolactin is?
Are you competing?

I am not trying to start an argument but just discussing why dont you bring your dose back down? you arent a little bitch if you do.

It is hard to take a step back in regards to dosing, you feel like you failed.

Thanks for understanding, I guess I’ll raise the test and lower the tren… :/

 

[Rido]

Thanks for understanding, I guess I’ll raise the test and lower the tren… :/

I dont know the ideal ratio on test vs tren or jack shit about it. hopefully someone can give you some insight.


one thing I can tell you is that mast had showed inhibition to prolactin secretion on the original studies(1970s)


best of luck

 

[Deadp007]

Allegedly you could use caber or prami to control prolactin, but you should get prolactin & sensitive estrogen checked soon.

 

[Jbagel132]

Allegedly you could use caber or prami to control prolactin, but you should get prolactin & sensitive estrogen checked soon.

Yep, time for some bloodwork!

 

[Jbagel132]

I dont know the ideal ratio on test vs tren or jack shit about it. hopefully someone can give you some insight.


one thing I can tell you is that mast had showed inhibition to prolactin secretion on the original studies(1970s)


best of luck

Really? It’s also anti-estrogenic though right?

 

[Rido]

Really? It’s also anti-estrogenic though right?

Affects the e2 receptors. So yes in a way. Closer to nolvadex than it is to an AI

 

[Jbagel132]

Affects the e2 receptors. So yes in a way. Closer to nolvadex than it is to an AI

So then would increasing the Mast P help reduce prolactin?

 

[Rido]

So then would increasing the Mast P help reduce prolactin?

I am not sure if more would help. I would assume there Is a max dose where mast doesnt stop it anymore.

It was speculated in the 1970s study. This kind of correlates with the anectodal responses of "mast helps negate 19 nor sides"

Maybe get a prolactin level?

 

[supremedonkey]

Stop saying it's prolactin. It's not. I have abused the living shit out of tren and it has never been prolactin related.

It's bad androgen to estrogen ratio. Use more test than all other compounds combined and voila your shit will start to function again. Ideally twice as much test.

I get Ed from mast and proviron+everything else unless my test is very high. It sucks. I'd love to be one of the people who can use low test but I can't if I want to use dht derivatives.

I'd drop the mast and up the test. Tren will do way more than mast anyway and that way you don't have to use very high dosages.

Right now I'm on 350 tren 850 test. Tried adding 350 mast p 3-4 times to my cycle and after a week or two without exception I get complete ed. Same happened with proviron and anavar. The only time I was able to run mast in my cycle was when I was on 2g of test. That's freaking crazy and defeats the whole purpose of adding mast to your cycle - to get drier and grainier

 

[hyooge]

I am sure it has been said.
Accutane
Finasteride
Trazadone

These 3 can all cause ED.
You probably shouldn't be using compounds like tren, it can become a shit show to narrow down the issue.

Check prolactin and E2.
Finasteride is a shit drug may I add, I wish it was socially encouraged to let men bald. I get your wanting to keep it, but if it is costing you your dick, consider dropping it.

 

[Jbagel132]

Stop saying it's prolactin. It's not. I have abused the living shit out of tren and it has never been prolactin related.

It's bad androgen to estrogen ratio. Use more test than all other compounds combined and voila your shit will start to function again. Ideally twice as much test.

I get Ed from mast and proviron+everything else unless my test is very high. It sucks. I'd love to be one of the people who can use low test but I can't if I want to use dht derivatives.

I'd drop the mast and up the test. Tren will do way more than mast anyway and that way you don't have to use very high dosages.

Right now I'm on 350 tren 850 test. Tried adding 350 mast p 3-4 times to my cycle and after a week or two without exception I get complete ed. Same happened with proviron and anavar. The only time I was able to run mast in my cycle was when I was on 2g of test. That's freaking crazy and defeats the whole purpose of adding mast to your cycle - to get drier and grainier

I’ve heard guys say that increasing test to make the test:Tren ratio 1:1 caused even more problems bro!

 

[Live_Evil]

Finasteride is a shit drug may I add, I wish it was socially encouraged to let men bald. I get your wanting to keep it, but if it is costing you your dick, consider dropping it.

My experience with fina has been purely positive, but I understand that others can have a rough time with it.

I will say though, the vast majority of men have more than enough DHT in their system to be totally fine when taking fina, which reduces DHT by 70% at a full dosage. If I were the OP, I'd actually drop the tren entirely, replace those mg's with test, and just stop with the bullshit 19nors.

For the 1000's of threads we see on here were a 19nor destroyed someone's libido, it blows my mind that recreational lifters even use them. In fact, if you compare the volume of those threads vs the volume of threads where fina + test killed someone's dick, it isn't even remotely comparable. The latter might not even exist. In the literature, there actually isn't a palpable difference in the amount of people who reported ED from fina and the placebo group. ED from fina is so extremely rare, it wasn't even considered "real" for quite some time.

Is it possible? For sure. But what's the most likely culprit? 100% the tren.

I mean, on cycle, the solution isn't even difficult -- flood your body with enough test to outcompete the 19nor metabolites, but the OP doesn't like that answer, lol. The real problem starts when guys are off cycle or cruising and those demonic little 19nor metabolites are still circulating, binding to random receptors, and fucking everything up when you don't have the option to blast test.

 

[Twizted]

I’ve not got a hormone panel done yet since starting the cycle. Am contemplating getting prolactin tested.



I’ve not used this dosage before. I’ll have to pull the trigger on caber, it’s just I’ve talked to many who say they simply don’t need it. What about prami?

I personally need caber anytime I'm running a nandrolone. Seems like I'm am very sensitive to prolactin. I would give the caber a shot and see if it changes anything for the better.

 

[Rido]

My experience with fina has been purely positive, but I understand that others can have a rough time with it.

I will say though, the vast majority of men have more than enough DHT in their system to be totally fine when taking fina, which reduces DHT by 70% at a full dosage. If I were the OP, I'd actually drop the tren entirely, replace those mg's with test, and just stop with the bullshit 19nors.

For the 1000's of threads we see on here were a 19nor destroyed someone's libido, it blows my mind that recreational lifters even use them. In fact, if you compare the volume of those threads vs the volume of threads where fina + test killed someone's dick, it isn't even remotely comparable. The latter might not even exist. In the literature, there actually isn't a palpable difference in the amount of people who reported ED from fina and the placebo group. ED from fina is so extremely rare, it wasn't even considered "real" for quite some time.

Is it possible? For sure. But what's the most likely culprit? 100% the tren.

I mean, on cycle, the solution isn't even difficult -- flood your body with enough test to outcompete the 19nor metabolites, but the OP doesn't like that answer, lol. The real problem starts when guys are off cycle or cruising and those demonic little 19nor metabolites are still circulating, binding to random receptors, and fucking everything up when you don't have the option to blast test.

You cant take my 19nor that give me my gangbang fantasies away from me.

my wifes pussy is sore AF right now. same with her asshole

 

[Twizted]

Stop saying it's prolactin. It's not. I have abused the living shit out of tren and it has never been prolactin related.

It's bad androgen to estrogen ratio. Use more test than all other compounds combined and voila your shit will start to function again. Ideally twice as much test.

I get Ed from mast and proviron+everything else unless my test is very high. It sucks. I'd love to be one of the people who can use low test but I can't if I want to use dht derivatives.

I'd drop the mast and up the test. Tren will do way more than mast anyway and that way you don't have to use very high dosages.

Right now I'm on 350 tren 850 test. Tried adding 350 mast p 3-4 times to my cycle and after a week or two without exception I get complete ed. Same happened with proviron and anavar. The only time I was able to run mast in my cycle was when I was on 2g of test. That's freaking crazy and defeats the whole purpose of adding mast to your cycle - to get drier and grainier

Just because you have abused the shit out of tren and haven't had prolactin issues doesn't mean it's the same for everyone... what a childish way of thinking.

 

[Jbagel132]

Hey everyone! Just an update, bumped the Test P up to 40mg starting today. How soon after pinning should I have bloods drawn for the esters I’m running?

Also, I attached a couple pics of myself just so you guys know where I’m at. 5’10” 190lbs