test suspension question

ironwill1951

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if you are using 500 mg week test cyp , could you use 100 mg test suspension an hour before you go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week to give you more aggression for a more intense workout ?
 
Sure, just realize that you're injecting 800-900 mg of test a week of instead of 500. I've never used it, but I once read that you should take an AI the day you plan to use the suspension/no-ester.
 
probably wouldn't notice anything from it, and trying to get the timing right from suspension is super difficult, it doesn't metabolize so perfectly, sometimes you feel more the next day than the same day, sometimes not
 
Are you taking TNE or Suspension? TNE and hour pre-workout is great.

I did Suspension a few times back in the day, and the water based solution felt like there was a bug crawling around under my skin. That shit HURT!!
 
I don't even know anyone who sells suspension. You used to be able to make in out of synovex h and sodium hydroxide would strip the propionate ester and eatradiol away if you let it sit long enough. Most people use oil based TNE and I usually take it an hour or 2 b4 workout.

The question is what is the half life of TNE (in oil) versus test suspension. The median terminal half life of test suspension is much longer than originally believed (study was done on horses though) and found to be 39 hours. Though I am pretty sure a large portion is rapidly absorbed, initially, making it good for preworkout. Now that is for the test suspension I am not sure about TNE in oil.

I would definitely recommend using an AI. With TNE you might grow boobs over night ;p.
 
TNE and Suspension both have no ester,i doubt the oil would make much difference in how quickly the test absorbed. I used suspension ED and couldnt tell any difference in the work out,I did 100mg a couple hours before workout.
 
TNE and Suspension both have no ester,i doubt the oil would make much difference in how quickly the test absorbed. I used suspension ED and couldnt tell any difference in the work out,I did 100mg a couple hours before workout.

I agree with you on the not making any difference in the workout experience

I think NE oil might actually absorb quicker, but just a hunch because I theorize that the particle form of suspension might take a good day or more to break down compared to the actually soluble form of NE oil
 
I also agree. The only study (done with horses) saw an immediate spike followed by the rest after a week with TNE water. Probably supports the theory that what could be readily absorbed was and the rest sat until absorbed. I believe an oil would be similar... Especially heavily solvent based as TNE tends to be.
 
ive been doing some research and from what i have read labs that dont know how to make it dont micronize it and it needs to be injected with a 22 gauge pin or it will clog it up . while the labs that micronize it, can be injected with a slin pin
 
Maybe. I've never been fortunate to see any lab grind it fine enough.

I used a mortar and pestle on some homebrew and it was still pretty course. I've opted to go mostly solvent/EO based because my suspension looked pretty painful.

What equipment is used to micronize it?
 
I receive my TNE and it is always crashed and you can see flakes at the bottom. I heat the solution up until the Test dissolves into the oil. I often repeat this process b4 every pin. The stuff says 98% EO and 2% BA. I don't believe EO smells like fucking paint thinner though ;p, which my TNE does. I am assuming it is from Guaiacol though it is not listed on my labels. It will stink up a whole room (well I don't mind the smell, honestly) and you will smell like it, and you can actually like taste/smell the stuff after pinning it.

It is very thin and easily goes through a 25g.

If you are interested, look up synovex h and test base conversion. I think the crystals have a lot to do with how fast or slow you add distilled water to the solution of methanol and sodium hydroxide to get the test base to precipitate. The slower you add distilled water (drop by drop) the smaller the crystals will be.
 
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I am assuming the amount is so low it is not labeled. Personally TNE is my favorite form of test :). I run it with Prop, but if I knew for sure that the half-life of TNE (oil base) was 39 hours I would try running just TNE without test with an ester, pinning ED. I pin ED with Tren Ace anyway. Even if there is a huge fluctuation of test levels before it reaches it's 39 hour half-life you still have half of the amount present 39 hours after injection.
 
It's probably 20%...you need quite a bit to hold it.

You are more man than I. I had intended to use TNE for leg day. One of the harder compounds to deal with for me.
 
I am assuming the amount is so low it is not labeled. Personally TNE is my favorite form of test :). I run it with Prop, but if I knew for sure that the half-life of TNE (oil base) was 39 hours I would try running just TNE without test with an ester, pinning ED. I pin ED with Tren Ace anyway. Even if there is a huge fluctuation of test levels before it reaches it's 39 hour half-life you still have half of the amount present 39 hours after injection.
I've not done so but have spoken to guys that have used suspension as the base test for a cycle. They say and I've read elsewhere that test in water(suspension) should be pinned every 8 hours when used as the base.
Tne in oil is absorbed more slowly so guys say every 12 hrs. Sounds about right to me.
 
What does it do to you? Bad PIP? Side effects? It is probably the worst compound I have used in terms of PIP. But Test Prop and Tren Ace cause barely any PIP for me, especially now. But out of the the 3 TNE is the most painful but it really doesn't bother me too much, even injecting it alone. I have been running Aromasin 10mg ED and it has worked well to control estrogen sides (no blood work this time to prove it though). I had some bunk Adex from another source and got Estro sides (blood work showed high Estradiol as well) running Test Prop at 700mg a week.
 
I've not done so but have spoken to guys that have used suspension as the base test for a cycle. They say and I've read elsewhere that test in water(suspension) should be pinned every 8 hours when used as the base.
Tne in oil is absorbed more slowly so guys say every 12 hrs. Sounds about right to me.

I am starting to get leather skin :D. I am gonna need to find some new spots to pin. I swear it is hard as hell to push a 25g through my delts now, used to be smooth as butter :(.
 
I tried homebrew water based TNE for the first time today for my leg workout. I was a little shocked...no initial pain as has been described, no problems at all with clogs with 25g, and great immediate results even at 50mg. I've got to think that the powder I have must be pretty fine or I would have experienced the clogging issue. I'll try a 29g next Wednesday. No PIP yet.
 
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