Test to Tren Ratio

[Equinob]

I started with a balanced stack between Text Cyp @ 300mg/week and Tren E @ 300mg/week.

I’ve read different opinions about how to run a Tren cycle, suggesting more or less Tren. curious about the opinions on this forum.

I’m planning to ramp up both to 400mg/week. The question is whether it would be better to increase just the Tren E, or the Test Cyp? A 300mg/400mg ratio? Or something else entirely?

I’m only doing two injections a week of 2ml max as I’m only pinning the quads. So the maximum I can inject is 400/mg per pin x2 for 800/mg per week.

i previously did 600mg/week Test Cyp, and 200mg/week Tren Ace, and got very good results With few sides. But I’m wondering if increasing the Tren will provide better results, or more sides without much additional gain?

In addition to the Test and Tren, I’m running 10mg/Aromasin ED. I also have Dostinex on hand in the event any prolactin/progesterone related issues appear. I’m also taking 250iu HCG 2x week.

 

[LeoTC]

Tren doesn't convert and you're running low Test. You're just pissing away money taking Aromasin every day.

Don't do that.

I ran 500/300 and later 500/400. Felt fine until my prostate ballooned after two weeks. I couldn't take a shit and had to actively force a piss stream for almost five days.

That sucked and I'll never run Test higher than Tren again. Only time I've ever dealt with sides.

No issues after a two week break and switching to 250/400.

 

[jJjburton]

Myself included I have only has unbearable side effects running test higher then tren. Tren higher then test is the only way I can run it for 6+’weeks.

 

[johntt44]

Im running 250 test, 300 tren and 30 superdrol right now. No ai. I'll ramp up the tren when I get off the superdrol.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Everyone is different and I, personally, prefer the opposite. I prefer test higher than tren. I’ve run it all the different ways. Moderate test/moderate Tren like you have setup 300/300. I’ve also run higher Tren/lower test 500/200. And I liked the higher test/lower Tren 600/250.

Tren is a strong androgen that whacks you hard. I think the reason I liked the higher test is because you need balance, so with a strong androgen you need moderate to slightly elevated estrogen. Otherwise your brain signals are all out of balance.

It also heavily depends on your goals.
Bulk = higher test lower Tren
Cut = higher Tren lower test

I’d be more concerned with jumping from your first run of 200 TrenA to 400 of TrenE. If something gets uncomfortable and you decide to lower the dose you have about 5-7 days of enjoying that uncomfortable side.

The average bro gym-goer doesn’t need to run a lot of Tren to see good results while limiting sides. I learned that by running it up to 500 mg/week. The side effects were much more noticeable and it makes the cycle not fun anymore. Why do that to yourself? Add it in moderately and enjoy.

 

[JC Grifter]

For me I’ve only done Tren once and I kept my testosterone at my trt level. I personally don’t like to use too much test because I’m very estrogen prone. Side effects from Tren were minimal. I got really hot when I ate carbs and my wife definitely noticed more irritability.

you may have to try it both ways and see what works for you.

 

[JC Grifter]

Everyone is different and I, personally, prefer the opposite. I prefer test higher than tren. The average bro gym-goer doesn’t need to run a lot of Tren to see good results while limiting sides. I learned that by running it up to 500 mg/week. The side effects were much more noticeable and it makes the cycle not fun anymore. Why do that to yourself? Add it in moderately and enjoy.

i think this is the best advice to give someone looking to try Tren. Absolutely no need to run a high dose unless your competing. Tren is strong as hell and a little goes a long way. As a guy just doing this as a hobby, you will have an amazing transformation on a low dose of Tren. For the average gym bro, we want to get results while we minimize the health risk. It’s only once your compete or have a career that requires a certain look/build that you change the risk to reward ratio.

 

[anfee]

Currently running 200/200 of test cyp and tren e.

I’ve done this before and had a great experience. I think a 1:1 ratio is a safe bet. Stick to the current dose of 300/300 and then run another cycle later on at a different ratio. Don’t mess with something that is currently working.

 

[Equinob]

I’d be more concerned with jumping from your first run of 200 TrenA to 400 of TrenE. If something gets uncomfortable and you decide to lower the dose you have about 5-7 days of enjoying that uncomfortable side.

Good point. I guess that’s why I’ve only jumped up to 300mg Tren. Perhaps I’ll stay there and up my test to 400mg.

Previously with only 200mg Tren Ace to 600mg test I got good results. So I’ve already taken a huge drop in my test from that cycle.

Actually one of my concerns by running higher Tren to lower test is libido issues. But 400mg test should be plenty to offset that, against 300mg Tren. Since I am looking to add size, that seems to be the right balance as well based on your advice.

 

[JC Grifter]

Good point. I guess that’s why I’ve only jumped up to 300mg Tren. Perhaps I’ll stay there and up my test to 400mg.

Previously with only 200mg Tren Ace to 600mg test I got good results. So I’ve already taken a huge drop in my test from that cycle.

Actually one of my concerns by running higher Tren to lower test is libido issues. But 400mg test should be plenty to offset that, against 300mg Tren. Since I am looking to add size, that seems to be the right balance as well based on your advice.

You may not have libido issues. I ran Tren Ace 350 and test 100 a week and everything was good. But that could have just been me and how I respond. I have heard of people running Tren solo with no libido issues.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

You may not have libido issues. I ran Tren Ace 350 and test 100 a week and everything was good. But that could have just been me and how I respond. I have heard of people running Tren solo with no libido issues.

Your body needs estrogen though to make everything work right. Men don’t make estrogen, it gets converted from testosterone so that’s really the mechanism at play here. Tren doesn’t convert to estradiol.

Guys that run Tren alone probably were running dianabol or something else that converts to estrogen. It’s totally possible to run a cycle like this, without testosterone as long as you have something providing some estrogen.

If you’ve ever crashed your estrogen you know why you need it. Low estrogen fucks with your junk the way high estrogen can.

 

[johntt44]

You may not have libido issues. I ran Tren Ace 350 and test 100 a week and everything was good. But that could have just been me and how I respond. I have heard of people running Tren solo with no libido issues.

Tren never gave me libido issues, no matter the dosage. At higher dosages for 8+wks I have a problem cumming though but libido is intact.

 

[Xenophon178]

Everyone is different and I, personally, prefer the opposite. I prefer test higher than tren. I’ve run it all the different ways. Moderate test/moderate Tren like you have setup 300/300. I’ve also run higher Tren/lower test 500/200. And I liked the higher test/lower Tren 600/250.

Tren is a strong androgen that whacks you hard. I think the reason I liked the higher test is because you need balance, so with a strong androgen you need moderate to slightly elevated estrogen. Otherwise your brain signals are all out of balance.

It also heavily depends on your goals.
Bulk = higher test lower Tren
Cut = higher Tren lower test

I’d be more concerned with jumping from your first run of 200 TrenA to 400 of TrenE. If something gets uncomfortable and you decide to lower the dose you have about 5-7 days of enjoying that uncomfortable side.

The average bro gym-goer doesn’t need to run a lot of Tren to see good results while limiting sides. I learned that by running it up to 500 mg/week. The side effects were much more noticeable and it makes the cycle not fun anymore. Why do that to yourself? Add it in moderately and enjoy.

I know it’s an old post but, I’d really appreciate your answer to a question. Are you estro prone or pretty good in that area? That is to say, if a man was estro prone, do you think they could run a little less test and still get the estrogen ratio you’re talking about?
Normally I follow your advice to the proverbial “T” but, this time I had to experiment because I knew something was different about my body. I still run test higher than Tren but, it’s just barely. (250mg Test-C, 25mg Tren Ace every day).
I finally had Covid and kicked it so I’m ready to jump on the Tren train. Two weeks deep RN. I’ve missed it