Test/Tren/Mast cycle questions, trying to cut

I know brother. I was expecting a lot more loss with such a calorie deficiency but my body is being stubborn with the fat. I guarantee I've lost a crap load of muscle though. I've been hovering right at 222 to 227lbs and that's all I'm eating. Going from 6,000cal to 2,000 is tough.


IMO you should go my route. I think your route is the wrong one.
 
IMO you should go my route. I think your route is the wrong one.
So your saying low carbs, high protein and medium fat intake? I don't know what kind of food I can eat to get that much fat. What would I eat for breakfast? I feel sluggish if I don't have my oatmeal in the morning. I have a job that requires a lot of manual labor and I need my energy. I'm game to try anything it's just that I am more of a bulker than a cutter [emoji4]
 
So your saying low carbs, high protein and medium fat intake? I don't know what kind of food I can eat to get that much fat. What would I eat for breakfast? I feel sluggish if I don't have my oatmeal in the morning. I have a job that requires a lot of manual labor and I need my energy. I'm game to try anything it's just that I am more of a bulker than a cutter [emoji4]


the first few days will suck until you get into ketosis, but your bodies fat will give you energy just as if you ate carbs. you can take table spoons of olive oil, macadamia nut oil ect, put butter on your veggies :D
 
the first few days will suck until you get into ketosis, but your bodies fat will give you energy just as if you ate carbs. you can take table spoons of olive oil, macadamia nut oil ect, put butter on your veggies :D
Oh yeah, I love peanut butter [emoji106]
 
Going towards ketosis is a whole different ball game. You can't do cheat days. The only carb source you can eat is salads (spinach or spring) with oil dressing.

There's no fruits while on keto diets and the vegetables are limited.

The meats on the other hand is a free for all, steaks, all parts of the chicken, pork, fish, etc....

It's not hard reaching the daily fat requirement when you add butter, oils, fats from meats, cheeses, etc. You can eat nuts but there's only a few
 
I'm suggesting a modified ketosis, carbs only pre and post workout, fast acting carbs only, so you can make it through a hard gym workout.
Going towards ketosis is a whole different ball game. You can't do cheat days. The only carb source you can eat is salads (spinach or spring) with oil dressing.

There's no fruits while on keto diets and the vegetables are limited.

The meats on the other hand is a free for all, steaks, all parts of the chicken, pork, fish, etc....

It's not hard reaching the daily fat requirement when you add butter, oils, fats from meats, cheeses, etc. You can eat nuts but there's only a few

Well there's no way I can do no carbs. I will have to look into modifying my diet some to lower the carbs more later. I've always been a huge carb eater [emoji4]
Thanks for the pointers guys. I'll post up my proposed diet changes later.
 
Well there's no way I can do no carbs. I will have to look into modifying my diet some to lower the carbs more later. I've always been a huge carb eater [emoji4]
Thanks for the pointers guys. I'll post up my proposed diet changes later.


you never know until you try ;) if you want to shed fat and keep your muscle ketosis and modified ketosis is the route. ketosis and modified ketosis is a life style, not some fad you try for a short time. if you love meat and fat? ketosis is for you. if you can't cut out carbs? than no point in trying ketosis. you will never reach ketosis and you will blame ketosis for being shitty. when in all actuality it was you not cutting out the carbs and not getting results.

fats are needed for a health life. fats are for hormone production and energy. carbs are for energy only, so no great need for large amount of carbs. you need such a small amount of carbs to function. protein is king!
 
How about this for example of what you can eat;)

Breakfast
Steak & eggs
Cup milk

Snack
Peanut or almonds

Lunch
Chicken meat (thighs, wing, or breast)
Salad with vinegrette dressing

Snack
Chocolate & coconut

Dinner
2-3 Hamburger patties topped with mushrooms & cheese
Salad w/ carrots, eggs, cheese, and bacon

Keto!
 
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