Testosterone Enanthate w/dbol kickstart and ending

[Troyk1]

Hey what's up guys! I'll be starting a 12 week bulk cycle tomorrow morning. I will keep this post updated weekly with my results and any sides I experience. Currently 6' and 180lbs. I've also posted a pic of my diet. Training will be a bulk 5 day split m-f. I have arimidex on hand. The cycle will be as follows
1-12 test e 750mg/wk
1-5 dbol 50mg/day
8-12 dbol 50mg/day

PCT:
14 clomid 100mg/day
15-16 clomid 75mg/day
17 clomid 50mg/day

 

[TUD]

Looks good brother but I would definitely use adex at .5mg eod at least if you are using dbol and also with your test pretty high. Dbol can cause gyno pretty quickly. And also I'd maybe replace one of your shakes with protein from actual food sources. Have you also considered hcg (250 iu 2x a week) on cycle and adding nolva to your pct?

 

[Troyk1]

I have heard both sides of the adex argument. I've heard that taking during can affect gains. I'm still kinda up in the air about whether to take during or just have it on hand. As far as the hcg goes i actually ordered some to get my minimum order amount up lol and I'm going to use it to keep the boys at size. And as far as the nolva goes I haven't decided to run it with the clomid.

 

[TUD]

It can effect gains if you tank your e2, but taking a lower dose and getting bloods during to check levels will help you from growing a nice pair a tits. Also, I'd run nolva during pct just because running two orals for that long of a period you are going to be shut down bad.

 

[Troyk1]

So would you say .5mg eod while on dbol and .25eod while on test e or .5mg eod the whole 12 weeks?

 

[TUD]

So would you say .5mg eod while on dbol and .25eod while on test e or .5mg eod the whole 12 weeks?

I would start at .5 eod and get a blood test and see your levels and adjust accordingly

 

[Troyk1]

Ok cool. I'll keep ya updated with progress throughout

 

[TUD]

is this your first cycle?

 

[double-leg]

Try tbol at the end bro. But still looks good though

 

[Troyk1]

@TUD no I ran test a couple year back but it was from Mexico so wasn't too good. @double-leg what would the benefits be of ending with tbol as opposed to dbol

 

[TUD]

tbol you will get a dryer more lean gains, wont be as bloated at the end of ur cycle.

 

[TUD]

honestly if u have a better source of test, id stay at 500mg but thats just my opinion. I don't have as much as experience as most on Meso but Im always told get the most out of the least amount of gear

 

[Troyk1]

I agree with ya but this is supposed to be an awesome stack. I know how I am and if I ran 500mg of test, at the end id be saying "damn what gains could I have got off 750mg" haha I know 500mg would be great and I'm probably wasting a little money with the extra 250mg but as long as I keep an eye on e level I think I'll be fine....I hope lol

 

[double-leg]

@TUD no I ran test a couple year back but it was from Mexico so wasn't too good. @double-leg what would the benefits be of ending with tbol as opposed to dbol

Well honestly i feel that in my body when i did tbol to complete my cycle i hot a hard look and kept more of my cycle gains then when i finished with dbol.
It might be that some bloat was actually water from dbol

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Include your AI (Adex) @ .5mg EOD, especially when Dbol is included @ 50mg/day with a testosterone for the number of weeks your proposing. AI's do not and will not significantly effect any potential gains. Dont listen to all bullshit out there about. Not including an AI with Dbol and exogenous testosterone is retarded. Combined, they are extremely estrogenic.

Conversely, the side effects to prolonged elevated estrogen levels are not only extremely unhealthy, but toxic (carcinogen). Do your homework before you run a cycle.

 

[Troyk1]

Hey guys wanted to update everyone. First injection was this past Monday. 22g/1 1/2" no discomfort with the injection everything went smoothly. Injected intro right glute. Had the normal soreness for about two days but that's it. Second injection will be tomorrow morning in left glute. As far as the dbol goes, I've been taking 25mg @9:30am and the other 25mg@ roughly 3:30(couple hours before workout) the dbol hasn't kicked in yet. I will weigh myself this Sunday. So far so good but it is just day 3. I'm assuming the dbol will kick in within the next 3-5 days. I've heard people have it kick in within the first week and some into the second. I'll keep everyone posted. Thanks

 

[TUD]

Keep us posted bro. You should by some 25g needles, helps a lot with pip. and give the dbol some time

 

[Troyk1]

Just wanted to post an update. 7 days in and weight is up 3.7lbs. Haven't noticed any sides yet(knock on wood). Appetite is up, I find myself hungry @meal time and not forcing any good down. Recovery wise, whatever I worked out that day, seems to be 60-70% recovered within a day or so. Still haven't noticed anything big from the dbol yet. I'm getting good pumps at the gym but I'm not sure if that's from the dbol or the nitric flood pills I take 30 min pre workout. The only noticeable strength gain I have seen has been in my traps. I do shrugs every workout and Monday shrugs started @70lbs and in could really feel it in my traps. Now I'm shrugging 80lbs with ease. Had to go buy lifting straps because the 80lbs are hard to keep a grip on. I'm hitting the gym hard with the workouts so I'm hoping within the next week or so everything will start to climb like crazy. I feel that being up almost 4lbs in 7 days is a good start. If someone could give me some input on my diet that would be great. I've taken out 1 shake during the day and replaced it with chicken breast. Photo of my diet is in my first post. Again I feel that my gains so for are right on track but if I'm wrong let me know.

 

[Troyk1]

Forgot something, haven't really seen any water retention. I'm drinking 1.5 gallons of water a day. Again I'm just 1 week in so maybe I'll notice water holding over the next week or so

 

[Troyk1]

Mid 6 week update. Weight is around 190lbs. Strength continues to go up. Currently off dbol till week 8. Everything is great and I have no complaints