Testosterone only for 59 year old woman

[pierrebobin]

My sister is 59, low oestrogen and very lowT and freeT, with symptoms like muscle loss, fat deposit, sleep issues even though she is an athlete and diet is healthy.
She started taking 16mg of test cyp every 10 days, subcutaneous.
Her question :
How will her oestrogen evolve?
Is Test going to be enough or is she going to need to take oestrog/prog also?
She is going to do blood test at 3 months, 6 and 12 to assess things
THANKS

 

[QueenBee]

My sister is 59, low oestrogen and very lowT and freeT, with symptoms like muscle loss, fat deposit, sleep issues even though she is an athlete and diet is healthy.
She started taking 16mg of test cyp every 10 days, subcutaneous.
Her question :
How will her oestrogen evolve?
Is Test going to be enough or is she going to need to take oestrog/prog also?
She is going to do blood test at 3 months, 6 and 12 to assess things
THANKS

I’m taking 16 mg test every week and progesterone. That seems to be working well for me.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I’m taking 16 mg test every week and progesterone. That seems to be working well for me.

16mg of progesterone also? I have a family member in the same situation.

 

[Superchicken]

My sister is 59, low oestrogen and very lowT and freeT, with symptoms like muscle loss, fat deposit, sleep issues even though she is an athlete and diet is healthy.
She started taking 16mg of test cyp every 10 days, subcutaneous.
Her question :
How will her oestrogen evolve?
Is Test going to be enough or is she going to need to take oestrog/prog also?
She is going to do blood test at 3 months, 6 and 12 to assess things
THANKS

Wouldn’t be enough for me. Standard hrt treatment includes e & p. Progesterone specifically is what resolved my sleep issues

 

[iris]

16mg of progesterone also? I have a family member in the same situation.

It's not really a one size fits all, you know

 

[BamaCrazy]

It's not really a one size fits all, you know

Understood. I guess in my mind I was thinking estrogen + testosterone was all that’s needed. But that’s my man brain coming up with that.

 

[Demondosage]

With females it’s more a matter of supplementing with whatever is falling off rather than being higher in test but still crashed with estrogen and/or progesterone. Oftentimes, just elevating testosterone and not addressing the other 2 can make them feel worse

 

[Nunya]

No estrogen without progesterone if she has functioning ovaries/uterus.

Estrogen generally: libido, skin, vaginal/bladder function and atrophy prevention. Used to be that postmenopausal women were a no-go for estrogen replacement, nowadays it’s not a hard no. There does seem to a be a window for it though, if you’re more than 10 years out from your last period, estrogen replacement therapy isn’t as effective as estrogen receptors have largely died off. At least that’s where the studies seem to be pointing, post Women’s Health Initiative clusterf*ck.

Progesterone: helps with sleep, needed to oppose estrogen if functioning ovaries uterus still present (still having a period)

Testosterone: general well being, libido (maybe, for some, not so much), easier to add/maintain muscle mass, cognitive function, etc.

She won’t know about her estrogen without regular blood tests.

Testosterone alone can be a good place to start, but won’t address e/p issues. Aromatization in to estrogen is just not really a significant thing with exogenous T in women, would be nice if it was, though!

Very quick and dirty run down

 

[michelledsmith1969]

I know where I can get Test C but does anyone know where I can get injectable E & P without paying a fortune to the compounding pharmacies? I can get my own bloodwork through my insurance. Im 56 years old, post menopausal and have been working on losing weight with T and a daily calorie deficit, walking 5 miles 6 days a week, strength and flexibility training 2 days a week, yoga 3 days a week and water aerobics 6 days a week. Ive been doing this for about months and have lost 6 pounds. My bloodwork show my Free T3 is 3.0, Estrogen <15.2pg/ml, TSH 6.14 uIU/ml, Progesterone .56 ng/ml. I feel like I could get my shit together if I could get my weight under control. I dont want anything that I have to take orally because I already have the beginning sign of fatty liver.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I know where I can get Test C but does anyone know where I can get injectable E & P without paying a fortune to the compounding pharmacies? I can get my own bloodwork through my insurance. Im 56 years old, post menopausal and have been working on losing weight with T and a daily calorie deficit, walking 5 miles 6 days a week, strength and flexibility training 2 days a week, yoga 3 days a week and water aerobics 6 days a week. Ive been doing this for about months and have lost 6 pounds. My bloodwork show my Free T3 is 3.0, Estrogen <15.2pg/ml, TSH 6.14 uIU/ml, Progesterone .56 ng/ml. I feel like I could get my shit together if I could get my weight under control. I dont want anything that I have to take orally because I already have the beginning sign of fatty liver.

PCT Zone and PCT24x7

 

[michelledsmith1969]

PCT Zone and PCT24x7

I dont see injectable E or P on PCT Zone and cant seem to find PCT24x7 site?

 

[BamaCrazy]

I dont see injectable E or P on PCT Zone and cant seem to find PCT24x7 site?

I apologize. I missed the word injectable in your comment. Neither have injectable. To get PCT24x7’s price list you have to email them.

 

[Nunya]

I know where I can get Test C but does anyone know where I can get injectable E & P without paying a fortune to the compounding pharmacies? I can get my own bloodwork through my insurance. Im 56 years old, post menopausal and have been working on losing weight with T and a daily calorie deficit, walking 5 miles 6 days a week, strength and flexibility training 2 days a week, yoga 3 days a week and water aerobics 6 days a week. Ive been doing this for about months and have lost 6 pounds. My bloodwork show my Free T3 is 3.0, Estrogen <15.2pg/ml, TSH 6.14 uIU/ml, Progesterone .56 ng/ml. I feel like I could get my shit together if I could get my weight under control. I dont want anything that I have to take orally because I already have the beginning sign of fatty liver.

There are reputable sources in the underground forum, but nobody here will flat out tell you where to go. You’ll need to read reviews and decide for yourself. I will say that you’ll need so little that you can pay a bit more to buy domestic, as a single vial will last you a long time.

I purchased from a domestic source and diluted it further. You won’t find sources with concentrations low enough to be easily dosed for a woman.

 

[Superchicken]

I know where I can get Test C but does anyone know where I can get injectable E & P without paying a fortune to the compounding pharmacies? I can get my own bloodwork through my insurance. Im 56 years old, post menopausal and have been working on losing weight with T and a daily calorie deficit, walking 5 miles 6 days a week, strength and flexibility training 2 days a week, yoga 3 days a week and water aerobics 6 days a week. Ive been doing this for about months and have lost 6 pounds. My bloodwork show my Free T3 is 3.0, Estrogen <15.2pg/ml, TSH 6.14 uIU/ml, Progesterone .56 ng/ml. I feel like I could get my shit together if I could get my weight under control. I dont want anything that I have to take orally because I already have the beginning sign of fatty liver.

I’d consider tirz to address the fatty liver, best to get that under control asap, and it’ll help with the excess weight. Your thyroid needs treatment, too. I’d feel like shit with your values

 

[michelledsmith1969]

I’d consider tirz to address the fatty liver, best to get that under control asap, and it’ll help with the excess weight. Your thyroid needs treatment, too. I’d feel like shit with your values

I've been in Tirz since February and have only lost 6 pounds.

 

[michelledsmith1969]

There are reputable sources in the underground forum, but nobody here will flat out tell you where to go. You’ll need to read reviews and decide for yourself. I will say that you’ll need so little that you can pay a bit more to buy domestic, as a single vial will last you a long time.

I purchased from a domestic source and diluted it further. You won’t find sources with concentrations low enough to be easily dosed for a woman.

I have already ordered the Test, I just can't find the E or P

 

[Nunya]

I have already ordered the Test, I just can't find the E or P

Got it, my bad. Estrogen and Progesterone are typically available from India Pharma sources, for oral P, oral E, topical E. E patches I haven’t found a source for, although Telyrx.com is a great source for E and P

 

[malfeasance]

Aromatization in to estrogen is just not really a significant thing with exogenous T in women

Why not?

Placing my ignorance on full display here, but aromatization is just a function of aromatase metabolizing testosterone. Do women not have aromatase? Aromatase inhibitors were invented for women, not men.

Again, ignorance here, but this just does not make sense to me.

 

[Superchicken]

I've been in Tirz since February and have only lost 6 pounds.

Ugh that’s frustrating. Are you at the max dose? Did you try sema? I know sema tends to have worse sides, but you could try half the starting dose if you haven’t yet. It’s supposed to be better at quelling appetite.

 

[michelledsmith1969]

Ugh that’s frustrating. Are you at the max dose? Did you try sema? I know sema tends to have worse sides, but you could try half the starting dose if you haven’t yet. It’s supposed to be better at quelling appetite.

I have no problem with fuelling my appetite, I actually have to make myself eat. I drink about a gain of water a day, I eat mostly veggies and fruits, I have a potato, noodles, or rice once a week. I only eat baked chicken or grilled fish. I literally have changed nothing in my life for the past 2 years but gained 25 pounds, this is the reason I stayed trading Tirz but I cannot seem to get the weight off, so I started taking to my doctor about my hormones, he says they're fine for a 56 year old female (typical) i kept insisting so he tested them and put me on the oral and creme Premerin. I've been on it for a year and nothing has changed except my Free T3 went down more.