THANE Labs - LabMax - Test-E250 12/10/14

I am getting ready to send some samples out for lab analysis. If someone wants to contact me (Not Thane) we can arrange that i send some of this guys test in. Its 150 for the test and i would expect thane to cover the cost of the testing.

pm me if you are interested. I have used this lab after the angus bullshit.

@thane

Wow that's awesome. Dear god yes someone please do this. I'll HAPPILY pay for the test once it's posted as long as it's a legitimate spec. I said I have no desire to source here because I thought after the incorrectly done LABMAX I'd be finished. If we can get LEGIT specs that would be fantastic. I hope no one expects no damn 98% purity on the Test though this is UGL after all.... the test is good for UGL but still UGL

I took a video on how to properly do the LABMAX but it's loading in vimeo still. The impurities skew the shit out of these LM results.... You will see what I mean when I post the video.

Whether or not I source here I still want my name cleared.... I'm NOT selling bunk
 
Wow that's awesome. Dear god yes someone please do this. I'll HAPPILY pay for the test once it's posted as long as it's a legitimate spec. I said I have no desire to source here because I thought after the incorrectly done LABMAX I'd be finished. If we can get LEGIT specs that would be fantastic. I hope no one expects no damn 98% purity on the Test though this is UGL after all.... the test is good for UGL but still UGL

I took a video on how to properly do the LABMAX but it's loading in vimeo still. The impurities skew the shit out of these LM results.... You will see what I mean when I post the video.

Whether or not I source here I still want my name cleared.... I'm NOT selling bunk
Let me get this straight, you were going to bounce because one labmax video was posted and you thought you were done because of the results? What does that say about you as a source and how can any of us as your potential clients rely on you for anything? You run at the first sign of trouble... We had a long time source of over 12 years in the business do that recently here. How can you be trusted?
 
Well, make a video then... @thane

I ordered more test vials from labmax and I'll grab the light that myth has too... I did do 2 tests and this was the better of the two I believe... I'll post the other one though... When I get the new labmax vials, I will only put in one drop if that's what you want. I was using a 29g slin, so I was thinking that 3 drops from 29g would be equal to 2 drops from a 23g. Just my thought process, I don't know if that's a fact...

@Johnson513 my apologies if that came off as insulting in any way. You're a good dude I didn't mean to offend. Your logic makes perfect sense with that. I should have made a video like this to start with. I used a 27g in the video btw about the same.

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No I do not have Parkinson's, I trained back only hours before the video. It's difficult to see in the video but the streaks of blue-green running around the base of the vial are much more pronounced in person.

I find that placing the droplets on the sides of the vial like you see in the video here and gently swirling the ampule is the most effective way to watch the reaction play out. Patience grasshopper. If I drop right down to the bottom straight away it doesn't give me as much glow on the initial reaction or across as much surface area. The Test E positive isn't like the tren ace positive, for example, where it just lights up the whole vial.... It's fleeting. The reason why I wanted one drop is like you will see in the video, it gives you a good instant positive. If you use multiple drops it seems to "drown out" the fluorescence on the initial reaction which I'm guessing is from impurities. Just a guess though, like I said. With one drop you get the proper positive almost instantly. You will notice I tap the amps against the table... there are "crystals" or something of that nature in the vial that I'm trying to knock down to the bottom. I actually spent a while longer tapping the vials before I shot the video, I just did it for demonstration purposes. At least in vial B anyways w/ the crystals vial A I'm unsure if there are any but I tap both anyways. This is included in the instructions that come with the testing kit actually, they (crystals) seem to be (judging from observation) what causes the fluorescence to me. Again, just basing this off of observation I'm not 100% sure. I've had many samples light up like crazy at the top of the vial where these "crystals" get stuck in vial B. You still get the positive, but it completely throws off the guessing of concentration and if they are stuck at the top your initial reactions (first few mins) will be way off with things like Test/EQ/Deca particularly. I've been the one brewing and sending off for specs for a while now so things like that don't cross my mind anymore with regards to concentration. I really just LABMAX finished product after labeling to confirm ID these days.

So to re-iterate, problem is I was only thinking about the few minutes for a video to get the positive. I get that people want to use LM to test concentration. In my opinion you just can't do it to any degree of accuracy with impurities in the mix - unless you have bunk of course that will definitely show. To get the whole reaction obviously vial B has to sit for a little while (10-15 mins at least I don't count). That would mean monitoring the vials w/ pics after the initial reaction which I should've included as instruction no doubt. My fault for that guys, it was a pretty big mistake not to take your concentration estimation concerns into consideration and I accept responsibility for it. I used to do the exact same thing before I began homebrewing and testing.

What I used to do was this when testing Test E for concentration. One drop to confirm ID and close it up. Then add another to side of vial gently swirl. Wait 10 mins or so and check with UV while waiting. Add another to side of vial and repeat with some wait time. Usually the 4th drop starts killing the glow.

I've never violently shook an amp before - perhaps that threw off the reaction? I don't know. Did you check vial B after 10-30 mins of sitting by any chance with the UV?

My future involvement here at MESO will be with regards to testing not actively trying to source. I'm VERY interested in 3rd party testing and I will continue to inquire about that.

Again, my apologies if anything came off as offensive Johnson I really do sincerely appreciate the video. I'll pay for your extra wasted LABMAX vials in cash. If you would consider doing the test again that would be great, but you have already completed what I asked so that's entirely up to you.
 
Let me get this straight, you were going to bounce because one labmax video was posted and you thought you were done because of the results? What does that say about you as a source and how can any of us as your potential clients rely on you for anything? You run at the first sign of trouble... We had a long time source of over 12 years in the business do that recently here. How can you be trusted?

Believe it or not I do hear you Marcus. It's impossible for an unestablished UGL to meet the standards that are being proposed. I complied with the entire sCoC but that did nothing. I posted mass specs and it did nothing. I posted pics of the clean environment and it did nothing. I am not "bouncing", I'm just not trying to source here any longer. It's a mute point. I'll be around to see through this 3rd party testing if indeed it does happen but that's all.

Accuse/inquire in the underground section as you wish but this sub-forum is for testing, can we not derail the thread please? Thanks.
 
^^^ You called the pics you posted^^^^

"A CLEAN LAB"

Really.

A picnic table

Edit: just watched your video...
Smh...where are the Thane vials? Why are they not in the vids? But you have the audacity to require it from us while we labmax it. How do we know what you labmax really came from Thane Labs. We never saw you withdraw anything out of Thane lab vials. ....
 
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I thought after the incorrectly done LABMAX I'd be finished. If we can get LEGIT specs that would be fantastic. I hope no one expects no damn 98% purity on the Test though this is UGL after all.... the test is good for UGL but still UGL

I took a video on how to properly do the LABMAX
Are you renegin' now? You hope no one would EXPECT 98%?
What I would EXPECT is 96% purity as you posted on your MS right here
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1418390714.954572.jpg

This is your MS on your Test-E that you are currently selling, correct? Would you think we would see such a drastically different number if Capt. Forest sent them to a lab? I'm letting you know, it sounds like you do...

@Johnson513 my apologies if that came off as insulting in any way. You're a good dude I didn't mean to offend. Your logic makes perfect sense with that. I should have made a video like this to start with. I used a 27g in the video btw about the same.

No I do not have Parkinson's, I trained back only hours before the video. It's difficult to see in the video but the streaks of blue-green running around the base of the vial are much more pronounced in person.

I find that placing the droplets on the sides of the vial like you see in the video here and gently swirling the ampule is the most effective way to watch the reaction play out. Patience grasshopper. If I drop right down to the bottom straight away it doesn't give me as much glow on the initial reaction or across as much surface area. The Test E positive isn't like the tren ace positive, for example, where it just lights up the whole vial.... It's fleeting. The reason why I wanted one drop is like you will see in the video, it gives you a good instant positive. If you use multiple drops it seems to "drown out" the fluorescence on the initial reaction which I'm guessing is from impurities. Just a guess though, like I said. With one drop you get the proper positive almost instantly. You will notice I tap the amps against the table... there are "crystals" or something of that nature in the vial that I'm trying to knock down to the bottom. I actually spent a while longer tapping the vials before I shot the video, I just did it for demonstration purposes. At least in vial B anyways w/ the crystals vial A I'm unsure if there are any but I tap both anyways. This is included in the instructions that come with the testing kit actually, they (crystals) seem to be (judging from observation) what causes the fluorescence to me. Again, just basing this off of observation I'm not 100% sure. I've had many samples light up like crazy at the top of the vial where these "crystals" get stuck in vial B. You still get the positive, but it completely throws off the guessing of concentration and if they are stuck at the top your initial reactions (first few mins) will be way off with things like Test/EQ/Deca particularly. I've been the one brewing and sending off for specs for a while now so things like that don't cross my mind anymore with regards to concentration. I really just LABMAX finished product after labeling to confirm ID these days.

So to re-iterate, problem is I was only thinking about the few minutes for a video to get the positive. I get that people want to use LM to test concentration. In my opinion you just can't do it to any degree of accuracy with impurities in the mix - unless you have bunk of course that will definitely show. To get the whole reaction obviously vial B has to sit for a little while (10-15 mins at least I don't count). That would mean monitoring the vials w/ pics after the initial reaction which I should've included as instruction no doubt. My fault for that guys, it was a pretty big mistake not to take your concentration estimation concerns into consideration and I accept responsibility for it. I used to do the exact same thing before I began homebrewing and testing.

What I used to do was this when testing Test E for concentration. One drop to confirm ID and close it up. Then add another to side of vial gently swirl. Wait 10 mins or so and check with UV while waiting. Add another to side of vial and repeat with some wait time. Usually the 4th drop starts killing the glow.

I've never violently shook an amp before - perhaps that threw off the reaction? I don't know. Did you check vial B after 10-30 mins of sitting by any chance with the UV?

My future involvement here at MESO will be with regards to testing not actively trying to source. I'm VERY interested in 3rd party testing and I will continue to inquire about that.

Again, my apologies if anything came off as offensive Johnson I really do sincerely appreciate the video. I'll pay for your extra wasted LABMAX vials in cash. If you would consider doing the test again that would be great, but you have already completed what I asked so that's entirely up to you.

Now I do appreciate the finer facts on how to conduct a labmax test, I think one of your main beliefs is flawed. The notion of drowning out the test by adding too many drops. I do think more than 3 drops is a bit excessive and I also believe labmax states on their website that 2 would suffice. Do I think that 3 or 4 would "ruin the test"? NO!

Check this video out by Boilermech on MStrong's gear -test-e, (before he started selling shit):

https://thinksteroids.com/community...-[labmax]---[2014-08]-[Boilermech].134358067/

He adds 4+ drops to vial B and it lit up like a glow stick. Didn't really "drown out" that test, did it? I encourage you address this.

Here are some still image shots of your gear from my "incorrect labmax" test...
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Above is from the first test. I too tapped the vials like you did because that's what it said to do on the labmax site. I personally didn't like this test because my droplet hit the side of the vial... Something you do like.

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This photo shows some glow at the beginning and it then fades out quickly as you can tell if you watch the vid.

I'm not quite sure if your video showed anything different than my videos. I would, as well as others, expect to see a persistent sustained glow in the "B" vial under blacklight IF your Mass Spec is truly yours and truly on THIS product....
 
Believe it or not I do hear you Marcus. It's impossible for an unestablished UGL to meet the standards that are being proposed. I complied with the entire sCoC but that did nothing. I posted mass specs and it did nothing. I posted pics of the clean environment and it did nothing. I am not "bouncing", I'm just not trying to source here any longer. It's a mute point. I'll be around to see through this 3rd party testing if indeed it does happen but that's all.

Accuse/inquire in the underground section as you wish but this sub-forum is for testing, can we not derail the thread please? Thanks.
No one is going to help your oth your 3rd party testing to "help" you clear your name nor get you business elsewhere... You're not sourcing, then leave. You are then be a man about it. Your story is shifty and you know it
 
@thane

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Or
http://www.labmax.ca/pages/testosterone-enanthate.html

Video is from the labmax website. They seem to be under a different assumption of possibly "drowning out" the test...

Here is a link to their email so you can tell them the correct way to preform their own test. [emoji57]
http://www.labmax.ca/pages/Contact.html

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These pics are directly from the Labmax website also...
 
Are you renegin' now? You hope no one would EXPECT 98%?
What I would EXPECT is 96% purity as you posted on your MS right here
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This is your MS on your Test-E that you are currently selling, correct? Would you think we would see such a drastically different number if Capt. Forest sent them to a lab? I'm letting you know, it sounds like you do...



Now I do appreciate the finer facts on how to conduct a labmax test, I think one of your main beliefs is flawed. The notion of drowning out the test by adding too many drops. I do think more than 3 drops is a bit excessive and I also believe labmax states on their website that 2 would suffice. Do I think that 3 or 4 would "ruin the test"? NO!

Check this video out by Boilermech on MStrong's gear -test-e, (before he started selling shit):

https://thinksteroids.com/community/index.php?threads/[Strong-Gear]-[Test-E]---[labmax]---[2014-08]-[Boilermech].134358067/

He adds 4+ drops to vial B and it lit up like a glow stick. Didn't really "drown out" that test, did it? I encourage you address this.

Here are some still image shots of your gear from my "incorrect labmax" test...
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Above is from the first test. I too tapped the vials like you did because that's what it said to do on the labmax site. I personally didn't like this test because my droplet hit the side of the vial... Something you do like.

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This photo shows some glow at the beginning and it then fades out quickly as you can tell if you watch the vid.

I'm not quite sure if your video showed anything different than my videos. I would, as well as others, expect to see a persistent sustained glow in the "B" vial under blacklight IF your Mass Spec is truly yours and truly on THIS product....

That is my LC/MS result and it is the same exact raw that's in your vials. How over-estimated is the purity? Probably 5-10% judging from my bloods. I stated numerous times in my thread that they are just estimations and to be taken with a grain of salt. The mentality here seems to be "no data is better than slightly inaccurate data". Well, fuck that. I want to know all I can about what's being injected into my body. You guys can keep your "pin and find out" method... I mean it's worked so well so far hasn't it? Contraceptives, horribly under-dosed crap.... yep working perfectly fine no need for a change at all. Why test? Things are going great.

I find it very curious how few people here seem to see the value after all the 30-50% gear we have all (yes me too) have wasted our time pinning over the years. That's what I sought to correct - that specific possibility.... and that's what, in effect, I was able to do. Bunk or significantly underdosed gear will never be sent out to anyone - not by me.

I get the tests done that are available even though they aren't 100% accurate. You can say what you want my conscience is clear - those are the results I was given and on top of that I was forthcoming about the inaccuracy from the beginning.

I find it fascinating that people here don't seem to question sources without specs that just ship out whatever comes in the mail, but when one actually does specs it's all a big conspiracy theory. We ALL need better analytical testing methods. I WISH I had access to HPLC-MS to test everything I have or ever will have but I don't. Do you?

I prefer to have the testing available performed as opposed to nothing at all or only LABMAX. Remember that contaminated test prop I chose not to sell? The raw by itself gave a super clean positive absolutely textbook. If I hadn't done the LC/MS that would've gone out. If you prefer the "pin and find out" game then by all means - plenty of others offer this. I offer a MUCH better alternative. Security. Safety. Perfect system? No. Better than no testing at all? You have pinned bunk before I'm sure so you tell me.

It's referred to as "not seeing the forest for the trees". One of the worst pitfalls in human psychology. Let's argue about specific details that don't actually matter instead of the real-life practical effect and impact - the big picture. Reality. Doesn't make any sense at all.

That MStrong sample must have been damn near absolute to give a positive that strong. What do you want me to address? That was a fantastic sample and as you mentioned what happened? "He started selling shit". Why? NO TESTING in place to prevent bad raws from reaching the customer. That's what I'm PREVENTING FROM EVER HAPPENING by testing. Bunk or contaminated gear will never be sent out. The fact that many people fail to see the value in this security is once again simply not my issue.

Again - forest for the trees.

The impurities are what skews the strong positive and yes when 4+ drops are added it begins to kill the reaction at least with THIS particular batch of Test... I know this for a fact since I've performed it myself. Diminishing returns is what you receive. Is this always the case though in every sample of Test E? NO!

Impurities vary from batch to batch. They effect the LM test itself in different ways. What's listed on the LABMAX site is a guideline, an example, not a law written in stone. It requires some critical thinking to adapt and become proficient with these tests. I am not wrong and neither are you. Every scenario will be different - my approach is more adaptable in this regard since it allows for the reaction to take place over time instead of just filling up the vials immediately. Best of both worlds - it just takes a few more minutes to play out.

Did you check the vial B after 10-15 minutes of sitting still with UV? I'm thinking not. It takes that long for this sample to give you the full glowstick like effect and yes... it does give it if you wait. Not as strong as the MStrong sample certainly, but still very strong.

I thought people here of all places would be objective enough to see the forest - to think critically and be intellectual honest about the imperfections of this game we're all in. Doesn't seem to be happening.

Sourcing here? Nope. No way in hell any legit source would deal with the mob mentality. Enjoys a good intellectual conversation? Sure why not. If you have more valid points or counter-points to offer up I'll comment again at some point.
 
Riddle me this Thane, why did you not show your vial of test from your thane labs ugl. There was no bottle at all being shown. You just jumped to the needle full of oil going into the labmax vial. You asked of us when we performed the labmax on your product that we had to uncap the vial, show the Thane labs sticker, and show the needle being stuck in and drawing out the oil. You didn't do any of that on your recent labmax. Why ?
 
That is my LC/MS result and it is the same exact raw that's in your vials. How over-estimated is the purity? Probably 5-10% judging from my bloods. I stated numerous times in my thread that they are just estimations and to be taken with a grain of salt. The mentality here seems to be "no data is better than slightly inaccurate data". Well, fuck that. I want to know all I can about what's being injected into my body. You guys can keep your "pin and find out" method... I mean it's worked so well so far hasn't it? Contraceptives, horribly under-dosed crap.... yep working perfectly fine no need for a change at all. Why test? Things are going great.

I find it very curious how few people here seem to see the value after all the 30-50% gear we have all (yes me too) have wasted our time pinning over the years. That's what I sought to correct - that specific possibility.... and that's what, in effect, I was able to do. Bunk or significantly underdosed gear will never be sent out to anyone - not by me.

I get the tests done that are available even though they aren't 100% accurate. You can say what you want my conscience is clear - those are the results I was given and on top of that I was forthcoming about the inaccuracy from the beginning.

I find it fascinating that people here don't seem to question sources without specs that just ship out whatever comes in the mail, but when one actually does specs it's all a big conspiracy theory. We ALL need better analytical testing methods. I WISH I had access to HPLC-MS to test everything I have or ever will have but I don't. Do you?

I prefer to have the testing available performed as opposed to nothing at all or only LABMAX. Remember that contaminated test prop I chose not to sell? The raw by itself gave a super clean positive absolutely textbook. If I hadn't done the LC/MS that would've gone out. If you prefer the "pin and find out" game then by all means - plenty of others offer this. I offer a MUCH better alternative. Security. Safety. Perfect system? No. Better than no testing at all? You have pinned bunk before I'm sure so you tell me.

It's referred to as "not seeing the forest for the trees". One of the worst pitfalls in human psychology. Let's argue about specific details that don't actually matter instead of the real-life practical effect and impact - the big picture. Reality. Doesn't make any sense at all.

That MStrong sample must have been damn near absolute to give a positive that strong. What do you want me to address? That was a fantastic sample and as you mentioned what happened? "He started selling shit". Why? NO TESTING in place to prevent bad raws from reaching the customer. That's what I'm PREVENTING FROM EVER HAPPENING by testing. Bunk or contaminated gear will never be sent out. The fact that many people fail to see the value in this security is once again simply not my issue.

Again - forest for the trees.

The impurities are what skews the strong positive and yes when 4+ drops are added it begins to kill the reaction at least with THIS particular batch of Test... I know this for a fact since I've performed it myself. Diminishing returns is what you receive. Is this always the case though in every sample of Test E? NO!

Impurities vary from batch to batch. They effect the LM test itself in different ways. What's listed on the LABMAX site is a guideline, an example, not a law written in stone. It requires some critical thinking to adapt and become proficient with these tests. I am not wrong and neither are you. Every scenario will be different - my approach is more adaptable in this regard since it allows for the reaction to take place over time instead of just filling up the vials immediately. Best of both worlds - it just takes a few more minutes to play out.

Did you check the vial B after 10-15 minutes of sitting still with UV? I'm thinking not. It takes that long for this sample to give you the full glowstick like effect and yes... it does give it if you wait. Not as strong as the MStrong sample certainly, but still very strong.

I thought people here of all places would be objective enough to see the forest - to think critically and be intellectual honest about the imperfections of this game we're all in. Doesn't seem to be happening.

Sourcing here? Nope. No way in hell any legit source would deal with the mob mentality. Enjoys a good intellectual conversation? Sure why not. If you have more valid points or counter-points to offer up I'll comment again at some point.
Just really quick here.

MikeStrong slipped through the cracks. We should have put him through the ringer. If we did...he would have never sourced here on meso. He fell through based on the grandfathered clause.

Since I'm one of the many that got burned. I will do my due diligence to make sure all sources follow the scoc.

If your gear is good as you claim and you care about quality. ...just do what is asked of you.

Follow scoc
Make us happy
We make you happy

Btw...all new batches will me tested.


Again look through some of these threads...there's a few guys here who can verify if your gear is pure & dosed correctly.


Edit:
Are you domestic us
Are you or were you US/REM for mikestrong?
 
Riddle me this Thane, why did you not show your vial of test from your thane labs ugl. There was no bottle at all being shown. You just jumped to the needle full of oil going into the labmax vial. You asked of us when we performed the labmax on your product that we had to uncap the vial, show the Thane labs sticker, and show the needle being stuck in and drawing out the oil. You didn't do any of that on your recent labmax. Why ?
I already asked him this question.

btw....@thane you should only be talking about your gear IN YOUR THREAD. Not here! Guess you didn't read that in the sticky!
 
Just really quick here.

MikeStrong slipped through the cracks. We should have put him through the ringer. If we did...he would have never sourced here on meso. He fell through based on the grandfathered clause.

Since I'm one of the many that got burned. I will do my due diligence to make sure all sources follow the scoc.

If your gear is good as you claim and you care about quality. ...just do what is asked of you.

Follow scoc
Make us happy
We make you happy

Btw...all new batches will me tested.


Again look through some of these threads...there's a few guys here who can verify if your gear is pure & dosed correctly.

Thank you for this comment howard. Look let me make this clear for you guys. I'm sticking around through all this because I know I'm not wrong... my damn bloodwork proves it - I know that means nothing to you of course I don't expect it to act as proof, I'm just explaining why I've been so persistent. I'm not wrong.

I sent a PM requesting info on the type of test that would be performed but it hasn't been answered yet. I won't sponsor ESI being used on finished product like you can get through Angus... I think we all know why that is. LC/MS/MS on the other hand could work out depending on the analyst if they're competent. If quantity and quality is shown you will be able to see how I dosed to compensate for impurity.

Where can I see previous test results from these folks who offer such things? I'll commit to paying for whoever sends in a sample but I need a little evidence is all.

Honestly... who else has ever come here saying the kind of things I say? Showing the depth of knowledge I know on some of these topics? Maybe I'm wrong sure that's always possible but I absolutely do not think I am and I have strong reasons for believing so.

What else do I need to do to follow scoc? I answered all the minimum requirements already
 
@thane
Thanks for yet another dissertation... I hope you feel better after all of that but you totally MISSED the point.
Eventually your lengthy posts start to act as a SMOKE SCREEN for what the main focus of the very basic information I laid out for you in the few posts before this. Not to mention I backed my post with credible photos and videos to support my statements and not some fortune cookie proverbs regarding trees and forests. I will once again get down to brass tacks in efforts to not waste anyone's time including yours and mine.

-YOU posted a LC/MS showing a 96% purity on your raw (test-e)
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-I purchased, with good ol US dollars, your gear and hoped it was as advertised.

-I made 2 labmax videos of your gear (right from opening the pack on one of them), EXPECTING to see at least a nice solid blue/green glow.

-I DIDN'T

-YOU saw the results of the video I posted and didn't like it so YOU said it was done wrong.

You did the test incorrectly. You put WAY too much oil in the ampules (which I said not to do in the instructions) and then for a reason I'm not quite sure of rolled all the contents of vial B thin across the whole surface area of the vial sideways...

I thought after the incorrectly done LABMAX I'd be finished.

I took a video on how to properly do the LABMAX


-YOU wanted to discredit the TWO videos I posted. (basically saying that I forgot to stick my finger up my ass and spin in a counter-clockwise circle while pumping some shitty techno beat in efforts to get a "glow")

@Johnson513

I find that placing the droplets on the sides of the vial like you see in the video here and gently swirling the ampule is the most effective way to watch the reaction play out. Patience grasshopper. If I drop right down to the bottom straight away it doesn't give me as much glow on the initial reaction or across as much surface area.

The reason why I wanted one drop is like you will see in the video, it gives you a good instant positive.

If you use multiple drops it seems to "drown out" the fluorescence on the initial reaction which I'm guessing is from impurities.

To get the whole reaction obviously vial B has to sit for a little while (10-15 mins at least I don't count).

That would mean monitoring the vials w/ pics after

One drop to confirm ID and close it up.

Then add another to side of vial gently swirl.

Wait 10 mins or so and check with UV while waiting.

Add another to side of vial and repeat with some wait time.

Usually the 4th drop starts killing the glow.

I've never violently shook an amp before -

-I then posted videos from THE LABMAX WEBSITE showing how all of your aforementioned theories were/are incorrect. (As you can see, they drop more drops for a better glow directly into the solution in the tube)

http://www.labmax.ca/pages/testosterone-enanthate.html

-I also showed Boilermech's video and how he placed 4+ droplets which didn't drown out any glow.

https://thinksteroids.com/community...-[labmax]---[2014-08]-[Boilermech].134358067/

-YOU didn't like to see this so YOU decided on writing yet ANOTHER novel on how MESO doesn't seem to VALUE inaccurate LC/MS tests.

-WE DONT!!

-I am showing you 2 pictures, from the labmax website, and am asking you which one does yours look more like?

Under dosed:
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1418484137.919568.jpg
Nicely dosed:
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1418484149.886940.jpg
Yours:
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1418484160.637618.jpg
THIS IS FROM YOUR OWN VIDEO!
smfh

-YOU now are saying that according to your bloods the LC/MS might be off by 5-10%
That is my LC/MS result and it is the same exact raw that's in your vials. How over-estimated is the purity? Probably 5-10% judging from my bloods.

-It's ATLEAST OFF BY 10%
as show in your OWN VIDEO!

-YOU closed the night by doing a copy/paste and headed with a question:

If both of the specs I had on this test E are complete bogus I want to know.

-I will now answer the question for you... THEY ARE BOGUS!

In conclusion, I am well aware that labmax does not test for purity. Judging from the videos I have seen it brighter glow does mean a stronger concentration. Simply put, your product does not have as bright a glow as others we have seen. Thane I told you before that I'm not a big fan of contempt prior to investigation. I have personally investigated and invested and I'm not impressed.
 
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