Thanks Meso

[umirinbrah]

I'd like to thank the good bros here on Meso for fighting the good fight against scammers and dirty bathtub ugls. The following is the post I made on ProfessionalMuscle that compiled the detective work you guys did to shutdown SportsTech and expose Asia Force. Unfortunately, the original thread was deleted by BigChef about five hours later stating,"BigA will look into this!" But not before 600 people viewed it and 15 commented saying thanks or that they also had suspicions about the accused sponsor.

I edited the original post to follow the rules of this forum. No hyperlinks allowed

I've been watching new sponsor threads ever since Red Diamond Pharma burned a ton of members including myself (sent bunk test e five months late, the nerve). Sat back and witnessed the Pacman, Horizon, Parsifal, Fitness Vigor, Future Labs, Honda-chem, and Phantom Pharm scams. The other day I ran a search on google for "future labs" remailer. Which led me down an interesting rabbit hole.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134343279

The member STP is the owner/brewer for the defunct ugl Sportstech Pharmaceuticals. He admits on post #241 that he was the remailer/brewer for Future Labs (who sent dirty gear and burned bros on ProM). Turns out his STP line also had black floaters/flakes. Additionally, he wasn't properly sterilizing the vials. One guy posted pics of the oils he received.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134343279

Pics are also attached below if you don't have access. 37 pages later STP is shutdown and his last post is on 9-18-13.

On 10-5-13, Asia Force (see post #10 for updated securenym email) opened up shop.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134345024

The same Asia Force who sponsors here at ProM

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/sponsors/107276-sponsor-asia-force.html

and has a very similar list to SportsTech. Complete with an almost identical sig to the one that Future had.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134343279

Now compare the pictures of the gear for both ugls.
SportsTech

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134343282

Asia Force

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134345265

Notice the same black stand and wall. Asia Force lasted a grand total of six days on Meso before he was exposed as STP aka Future Labs remailer. I just want to warn my fellow brothers that still haven't learned their lesson, even after being scammed time and time again by these fly by night sponsors.

A bunch of posts on the main sponsor thread were deleted. Without further ado, the reaction.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/sponsors/107276-sponsor-asia-force-7.html

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/sponsors/108156-issue-about-af.html

I have to say I'm pretty disappointed in how the situation was handled. Sadly, members over there are going to learn the hard way very soon.

 

[Millard]

Just to clarify: Active (clickable) hyperlinks to websites that sell anabolic steroids and/or controlled substances are not allowed.

 

[gearusing]

This is the place to be.

 

[ebkallday]

Meso is a unique place of many different characters and personalities. One thing is garunteed here.... the truth will always come out in one way or another. Our bro Millard is one bad mo fo! It would be greedy and just to easy to let the sponsor cash flow in. He will not sell out like these other Shit sites. And that is why Meso will continue to gain more members.

The truth is what we deserve!

Thanks again Millard!!!

 

[ebkallday]

Oh, and to the OP.. Good lookin out. That scum bag was also sending out gear with, what looked like pubes it in. He will be back with a different name and look. Maybe one day he will get a columbian neck tie... just looking on the bright side.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I'd like to thank the good bros here on Meso for fighting the good fight against scammers and dirty bathtub ugls. The following is the post I made on ProfessionalMuscle that compiled the detective work you guys did to shutdown SportsTech and expose Asia Force. Unfortunately, the original thread was deleted by BigChef about five hours later stating,"BigA will look into this!" But not before 600 people viewed it and 15 commented saying thanks or that they also had suspicions about the accused sponsor.


I have to say I'm pretty disappointed in how the situation was handled. Sadly, members over there are going to learn the hard way very soon.

It's not surprising. Censored boards like PM and OLM will bend over backwards to protect sponsors. Their mods and admins pretend to have the best interests of their members at heart, while at the same time they are making money off them. They will accept advertising money from ANYONE willing to pay. Doesn't matter if they are known scammers or not. They are dispicable.

umirinbrah, your efforts at PM are commendable but ultimately, futile. The deck is stacked against you and the truth. There is too much money involved for the truth to get in the way. Hopefully others will learn what censored source boards are all about from your post.




rajjin, a PM mod that I recently debated over PM's treatment of its members, particularly noobs [ https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134339208], stridently defended PM and denied my accusations. I find in interesting that rajjin posted the following in the AF thread:

Originally Posted by rAJJIN View Post
I Just heard who this was!
welcome back old friend. Always wishing you the best.

During my debate with rajjin, he was unable to refute a single assertion I made. He left Meso shortly after feeling frustrated without the power of the ban hammer. Apparently, he's still bitter since this is his current opinion of Meso - a board he previously praised:

Originally Posted by rAJJIN View Post
Think steroids is the old meso-rx. Just a new name.
It Now has turned into a free for all where any source or member can post anything they want with no fact. It is full of scammers and banned members of
proMuscle. Over there any member can have 10 names if they want.

Not a bash just a fact.

For anybody who isn't familiar with how censored open source boards like PM operate, the following exchange between Bigchef (mod) and Asia Force (sponsor) in AF's thread is a perfect example. Learn from it.

Originally Posted by BigChef View Post
Guys, enough of all this sponsor bashing! Some of you posting too much fucking details, spam whoring and bashing and making some accusation of a sponsor who it was etc. All this has to stop! If you keep fucking going, I will ban you for 3 days.
I deleted that fucking thread because I would say there is not enough evidence to say who this is and who it was etc. No more sponsor bashing!

Originally Posted by Asia Force View Post
Unbelievable !!

So because we are a new sponsor here we are scammers ? WTF

I get that lots of you got scammed lately but we went through an approval before coming here !
Lots of sponsors have a price list that look similar to another ! but it doesnt mean they are the same

I don't get all the false accusations and bashing bullshit with ZERO proof ...

Originally Posted by BigChef View Post
If they are calling you out, they will get ban! simple as that!

THAT ladies and gentlemen, is promuscle at its finest. If that exchange doesn't convince you that the only thing PM is interested in is ad dollars, nothing will. Simple as that.


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[rogert208]

Thank u for protecting us from people like that. All I want is safe gear and big muscles. But people will take advantage of that. So thank u for looking out for guys like me.

 

[ChillBill]

Thank u for protecting us from people like that. All I want is safe gear and big muscles. But people will take advantage of that. So thank u for looking out for guys like me.

:ditto:
I don't go anywhere else now, When I tried I felt stifled

 

[TheHamburglar]

umirinbrah; u aware brah?

 

[Millard]

Meso is a unique place of many different characters and personalities. One thing is garunteed here.... the truth will always come out in one way or another. Our bro Millard is one bad mo fo! It would be greedy and just to easy to let the sponsor cash flow in. He will not sell out like these other Shit sites. And that is why Meso will continue to gain more members.

The truth is what we deserve!

Thanks again Millard!!!

Thank you! This is an advertiser-supported website. So, I like ad dollars too. I have a lot of goals for MESO. And many are expensive. But the goal of giving members an uncensored subforum is easy.

Members can rest assured that the freedom to express their opinions and share their experiences in the "Steroid Underground" will not be compromised. There are no admins or mods telling you what to think, determining the truth for you or deciding what you should or should not see.

The Steroid Underground is for critical thinkers who like having all the available information, opinions and perspectives at their disposal when making THEIR OWN decisions and choices. Participation is entirely unfettered by the influence of advertisers and/or any other commercial interest that wants to separate members from their money.

Don't trust my word on it. It's the members who see this philosophy in action day in and day out that can vouch for it.

 

[hunterbro]

Which is exactly why I only visit this site. After being out of the game awhile, I looked at a few other forums before I landed here. The truth is powerful and is very attractive to those searching for it. Thanks MB

 

[kinglewy]

That was some good detective work umirinbra! I had the sneaky suspicion that AF had been on PM before under different names. Personally I think he was RDP and then moved onto Pac/Horizon. His list and everything else were almost identical.

I also spotted his cheerleader hulkbulk84 who seemed to post nowhere but in AF's thread telling everyone how good the stuff was and all that. I called him out on that on the open board and I guess that is a no no at PM. Rajjin said I was a shit stirrer.

I ofcourse logged on to find myself banned. And whats really fucked up is I thought all of us guys who were warning people to stay away from AF were doing a good thing, making sure other members dont get scammed. The mods felt there was not "enough proof" and of course deleted the thread you made with all the proof! I was told also not to post things like that on the open board and that if I felt there was a scammer in the midst that I should notify a mod and it was their responsibility to look into it.

I have always read on other boards that PM was a scammer board and I didnt believe it but I gotta say I am starting to wonder what goes on behind the scenes that regular members dont know about. I literally proved that HGHpower took used riptropin boxes and boxed up an unknown substance and sold it to me and other members as "Riptropins", one of the members had a gh serum test done and it showed there was no growth in the bottles making wonder what the fuck I have been injecting in my body for the last 5 months, and the craziest thing of all is HGHpower is still over there being praised as one of the top notch gh guys lol.

Well I will end this rant and just say I like the style of this board. I like how the new sponsors have to prove themselves instead of the other way around and that you can state your opinion without worrying about getting banned.

 

[conquistador]

You could tell STP's gear was pure fucking garbage from a mile away just from looking at the ridiculous labels. I'm sorry to say this now, but I did mention it. In fact, I was like the third one to comment when he introduced his trash to steroid underground.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

After umirinbrah's excellent post about his experience exposing this AsiaForce/STP loser on Promuscle, I followed the links he posted to PM and found the mods behaving like source dick riders. In other words, nothing unusual there.


But, I find this post by AF in response to a legitimate question from someone named "muscle96ss" quite telling. It perfectly demonstrates how unscrupulous and dishonest these sources can be:

Originally Posted by muscle96ss View Post
I am not sure I understand what is going on. You are saying that the person registered as "asiaforce" on Meso is not you? If that is so then why would someone impersonate you and show pictures of your product, mention that you are now a sponsor on PM, and ask people to contact you at
Code:

asforce@securenym.net

. In other words someone is either trying to help advertise for you or is trying to trick people into thinking they are you so they can steal your business. If they were trying to help advertise for you then you would know about it. If they are trying to impersonate you and steal your customers, why would they tell people to contact you at your correct e-mail address? Am I missing something here?

Originally Posted by Asia Force View Post
Not exactly

I got an email from a member over there asking me if I wanted to sponsor and we would share profit from business generated by this ad.
I said I would THINK about it BUT he immediately puts up an ad and put my email on it WITHOUT ME KNOWING IT, probably sure I would share profit when we never had an agreement about that.

After I asked him to take it off because I didn't agree on being a sponsor, he just switched to another email address as far as I know.

To sum up : I HAVE NEVER BEEN A SPONSOR ON THIS OTHER BOARD WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND THE PERSON ADVERTISING OVER THERE WAS NOT ME !

Now this will be my first and only explanation, because this situation was not caused by me and I won't explain myself for something I didn't do.

After STP was chased off Meso for selling pube-contaminated oil, he again attempted to establish a presence on Meso under a new name, AsiaForce. In his opening post, he admitted he was a sponsor at PM! Now AF is denying this is his thread at Meso. I guess somebody just decided to "borrow" his "good name" so they could steal his business at Meso. But this is the first time I've ever seen a copycat give the original's email address for a contact. I would imagine business is slow for this cat! ROTFLMFAO!!! https://thinksteroids.com/community/posts/917929

hello bros of thinksteroids!
We are now a sponsor on Professionalmuscle board and we have set up a new email account:

asforce@securenym.net

This is withou a doubt, the dumbest source I've ever seen. No wonder his gear had pubes in it. He probably had some of that stealth gear that was labled "gay sex lube" and he took it literally.

AF's story is so far-fetched, no thinking person would ever fall for it. But yet again, Promuscle refuses to disappoint. AF got this reply from a mod: LMFAO!!

Originally Posted by mike1107
Looks like everybody got a better explanation.
Thanks AF for trying to clear up the problem

One thing is certain in all this. AsiaForce is where he belongs - on Promuscle.

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