Thanks PEPPY!!! Just received my first Order!!

[TheGuy85]

This is true, placebo or underdosed gear goes a long way in all other symptoms it seems/

Even then though, I think the first few free samples builds confidence for the first real orders, but only when random customers continue to get good bloodwork can you have total confidence that a new source is reliable. I don't know why people are so quick to drop hundreds on a cycle but not a bit extra to make sure the source lives up to expectations, for your health but also your own benefit in the future and for everyone else's.

I know some states in the north east make it a total pain in the ass to get tested, online panels are a no go.

Yeah, a blood test costs me about as much as a Test only cycle and that's only if I am getting my T levels tested alone, well unless insurance pays. I'm not familiar with online panels. Why do north east states make it hard to get tested?

 

[heel hook]

Agreed blood test are not the cheapest thing. My doctor knows I use gear. The first time he did blood work for me my test was through the rough he just looked at me and asked if I was on anything

Careful letting your Doc know you are on gear , many keep records and that can come back to haunt you, you gotta make that call.

 

[TaoPhD]

What about the low t clinics. Could you use a couple of them or are they more overpriced?

 

[loveyourbody]

^^^ good to know he's been my doc for the longest time. But, can never be to careful

 

[TheGuy85]

I don't even know of any near me I was thinking about suppressing my T level and using them to get some test, but my even doctor said under 400 is low so I could probably get my level to drop below that by running a suppressive prohormone or oral steroid, but it makes me feel like shit. My total test level is a measly 539 ng/dl which is on average that of a 65 year old man. So sad.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I don't even know of any near me I was thinking about suppressing my T level and using them to get some test, but my even doctor said under 400 is low so I could probably get my level to drop below that by running a suppressive prohormone or oral steroid, but it makes me feel like shit. My total test level is a measly 539 ng/dl which is on average that of a 65 year old man. So sad.

539 isn't bad man, I hope your doc didn't tell you it was!!

 

[TaoPhD]

I don't even know of any near me I was thinking about suppressing my T level and using them to get some test, but my even doctor said under 400 is low so I could probably get my level to drop below that by running a suppressive prohormone or oral steroid, but it makes me feel like shit. My total test level is a measly 539 ng/dl which is on average that of a 65 year old man. So sad.

I agree with JohnnyBallz,

I had a buddy who is 26 and his level is 342.

 

[TheGuy85]

Nah I just looked at a study and for my age group it said that the high 600's was average.

http://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/normal-testosterone-levels.html

 

[mrtwister]

What about the low t clinics. Could you use a couple of them or are they more overpriced?

I've been looking into the low T clinics lately, and most of what those I've talked to seem to use LabCorp in one way or another. It appears they have at least negotiated a cheaper price than what you can find through a service like privatemdlabs, but its still spendy.

 

[TaoPhD]

I've been looking into the low T clinics lately, and most of what those I've talked to seem to use LabCorp in one way or another. It appears they have at least negotiated a cheaper price than what you can find through a service like privatemdlabs, but its still spendy.

What is considered spendy? I'm totally unfamiliar and my doctor tends to give me the"fuck you liar" look everytime I tell him I might have low T

 

[mrtwister]

$299 for the first set of labs before qualifying for TRT. Whether that's the norm or not, I'm still unsure. But $300 is a hefty bill from where I sit.

 

[biggerben69]

I agree with JohnnyBallz,

I had a buddy who is 26 and his level is 342.

Shit. Sounds like you run with a tough crowd. I'm steering clear of dark alleys and anti aging clinics where you guys rule with intimidation, fear and the memory of self lubricating and a glimmer of hope to once again have intercourse with a man without the prepping with feminine dousche and Vagisil to rid the panties of the uniquely stale stench of feminine dryness and the uneasy feeling of synthetically produced over lubrication, respectively.

 

[noah_k]

Yeah, a blood test costs me about as much as a Test only cycle and that's only if I am getting my T levels tested alone, well unless insurance pays. I'm not familiar with online panels. Why do north east states make it hard to get tested?

privatemdlabs seems to be popular, the female hormone panel gets most things but only reports a figure of >1500 for testosterone (not ideal). There's another one I forget off hand that gets the specific value and not just a range. I'm sure there are plenty of others.

Most states you can order online, discretely, and then a lab near your zip can handle it, you can get the results by mail -- a bit similar to std testing. This avoids complications with insurance and getting a mark on your chart. A few states up north like NY don't allow this though, you have to go through the proper medical channels or take a roadtrip to CT or so.

Is there a sticky on meso about bloods? Seems likely.

 

[bickel29]

privatemdlabs seems to be popular, the female hormone panel gets most things but only reports a figure of >1500 for testosterone (not ideal). There's another one I forget off hand that gets the specific value and not just a range.

I think this is the one that provides an exact number:

http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Testosterone.php

Testosterone Test

The Serum Testosterone Test measures the level of testosterone in the blood. Testosterone is a hormone that promotes the development and maintenance of male sex characteristics. A significant deviation from the normal range may require further evaluation by your physician.

Private MD Lab Services offers the following test for testosterone:

Testosterone, Serum Test $44.49

 

[heel hook]

What is considered spendy? I'm totally unfamiliar and my doctor tends to give me the"fuck you liar" look everytime I tell him I might have low T

I am sure that happens a lot, a guy goes to a Doc built like a Brick shithouse and tells him he has Low T, he puts 2 and 2 together.

 

[twistulikepretzel]

I agree i asked my doctor for tylenol 3`s and he went off the deep end asking me why i asked for them speciffically ..T3`s wow .....

 

[Gunrunner]

privatemdlabs seems to be popular, the female hormone panel gets most things but only reports a figure of >1500 for testosterone (not ideal). There's another one I forget off hand that gets the specific value and not just a range.

I need to know the one that shows the specific value.

 

[Millard]

I agree i asked my doctor for tylenol 3`s and he went off the deep end asking me why i asked for them speciffically ..T3`s wow .....

You know T3 isn't "Tylenol 3" in the bodybuilding world, right?

 

[TaoPhD]

Haha. Cytomel to flatten out those gains. That woukd ssssuuuucccckkkk

 

[bickel29]

I need to know the one that shows the specific value.

http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Testosterone.php

I think this is what you're looking for Gunrunner!