The basics for making your own gear

[TigerStyle1]

The basics of UG made gear

The basics of UG made gear....

Thought alot of bro's would find this interesting. I formerly was an UG Chemist for a now 5 star source here on meso.

1. You don't have to be a chemist to make gear. All it involves is mixing the steroid powder (like test enan) into some type of oil like sesame seed or soy oil with the use of solvents to help the powder dissolve into the oil. 99.999% of the time the solvents UG labs use are BA (Benzyl Alcohol) and BB (Benzyl Benzoate). Heating is often used to speed up the process of dissolving the powder into the oil.

2. Then they just filter the oil using a syringe filter into a sterile presealed vial.

It's basically that simple, which is why so many UG labs are popping up over the last year.

I'll never buy vet or human grade gear, UG is the only way to go nowadays

 

[cinnabar8521]

You are wise beyond your years Grasshopper! Now if you want us to believe you were really a UG Chemist, then you will promptly pass along your recipe for Test base in oil.

The basics of UG made gear....

Thought alot of bro's would find this interesting. I formerly was an UG Chemist for a now 5 star source here on meso.

1. You don't have to be a chemist to make gear. All it involves is mixing the steroid powder (like test enan) into some type of oil like sesame seed or soy oil with the use of solvents to help the powder dissolve into the oil. 99.999% of the time the solvents UG labs use are BA (Benzyl Alcohol) and BB (Benzyl Benzoate). Heating is often used to speed up the process of dissolving the powder into the oil.

2. Then they just filter the oil using a syringe filter into a sterile presealed vial.

It's basically that simple, which is why so many UG labs are popping up over the last year.

I'll never buy vet or human grade gear, UG is the only way to go nowadays

 

[Cronk]

Where can I get info on the different % of bb and bb for different powders. Or is EVERYTHING roughly 2.5% ba and 7.5% bb?

 

[TigerStyle1]

You are wise beyond your years Grasshopper! Now if you want us to believe you were really a UG Chemist, then you will promptly pass along your recipe for Test base in oil.

LOL that was a bitch to get to stay in solution even about 50mg's/mL.....I was able to get 100mg's/mL to stay in solution with 20%BB and 10%BA (this much BA will cause a little pain in some people).

However the "trick" was in the heating/baking of the juice while making it. The melting point of Base is very high, if I remember it was around 350 degrees farenheit. You had to heat the oil a little past the melting point of base for about 10 minutes then just turn the oven off and let the solution cool down on its own, takes awhile....

Keep in mind cooking the gear at that temp will cause some of the BB and BA to evaporate so you have to experiment with the evaporation rates to know how to end up with 20%BB, 10%BA.

There are other solvents that can be used but to get base to stay in solution at even higher concentrations but since I can't guarantee they are safe I won't post them.


Cronk.....The longer the ester chain the less solvent percentages you'll need due to all longer ester steroids being more oil soluble (those extra carbon atoms make the compound more soluble).

Also go with a little more BB then 7.5%....the BB is the primary solvent and is NOT water soluble. This means that after injection the BB stays at the injection site and keep the powder dissolved. BA being water soluble is absorbed quick by the musle tissue leaving the other compounds behind to sit in the muscle.

This is why if you don't use BB you will often get some serious pain from those lower ester chain compounds like prop.

 

[Frankenstud]

this i believe is common knowledge here in meso!

 

[TigerStyle1]

this i believe is common knowledge here in meso!

Can't be too common otherwise there would only be powders suppliers lol!

 

[Cronk]

Thanks Tyger Style. I just need info on test e/c, tren e, and EQ. Can I pm you bro? Thanks.

 

[cinnabar8521]

Thanks Tiger, I've given up for now on TNE, but next cycle I'll be trying it again,
hey Cronk here's the recipes your looking for:
Test Enanthate 10 gram conversion

Needed
10 grams test E
Benzyl Alcahol 2ml 5% BA
30.5 ml sesame oil
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 guage needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter


1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.


Makes 40ml @ 250mg/ml

And

Test Cypionate 10 gram conversion

Needed
10 grams test c
Benzyl Alcahol 2ml 5% BA
30.5 ml sesame oil
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 guage needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter


1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.


Makes 40ml @ 250mg/ml
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[Cronk]

Thanks bro.

 

[figgy]

the best stack I know is a stack of pancakes YUM!! peace all

 

[GDSGFT]

1. Change your font

2. Look in the classifieds, that's what they're there for.

 

[aquafina]

400mg/ml

TigerStyle1, what would be the "best" pecentage ratio of Ba and BB for Test Enanthate and Equipoise.....both at 400mg/ml??
I believe I read a few times that 5%Ba and 10%Bb would get the job done.

Any/All help is much appreciated.

 

[madman]

TigerStyle1, what would be the "best" pecentage ratio of Ba and BB for Test Enanthate and Equipoise.....both at 400mg/ml??
I believe I read a few times that 5%Ba and 10%Bb would get the job done.

Any/All help is much appreciated.

You can go a lot lower. On the TE use 2% ba and 10%bb on the EQ 1%ba and 10%bb works fine.

I like to use BB with everything if you can't tell.

 

[TigerStyle1]

BB is the better Solvent and should always between 10-20% and the BA is actually mainly used as a antimircobial/perservative.

Basically the faster acting the steroid is, like prop, the higher % of solvents you'll need.

For 400mgs/ml I personally would go with 20% BB 3% BA.

Upjohn Cyp contains 20%BA and less then 0.5%BA. Going past 20% with BB can get you some very high concentration gear that is painless BUT that much BB is supposedly not good for you.

 

[aquafina]

Thanks fellas'.
If it's mainly an issue of preference at this point, I'll was thinking of maybe using 3%Ba and 15%Bb for both the TE and Eq.
Sound cool?

 

[TigerStyle1]

Thanks fellas'.
If it's mainly an issue of preference at this point, I'll was thinking of maybe using 3%Ba and 15%Bb for both the TE and Eq.
Sound cool?

You don't need that much BA with Enanthate or EQ. As a matter of fact you don't even need any BA, BB does the trick especially with longer ester chains like enan and eq.

THE LONGER THE ESTER CHAIN THE MORE OIL SOLUBLE THE COMPOUND IS.

However BA is necessary to keep bacteria from growing so use around 1%. For short chain esters like prop and base then BA actually does help to prevent the gear from crashing.

 

[jago25_98]

I've never seen the powder,
can't say or ask more than that here

 

[Carlito]

Here is a powder calculator :

http://absinth.greatnow.com/calcpowder2.html


Carlito

 

[Pup'nIrn]

I suppose the dumbest question now is where or how do I get TESTOSTERONE powders? Im used to getting READY MADE steroids lol. All the other ingredients I could get probably at www.getpinz.com (aka gpzusa.com) BUT WITHOUT THE MAGIC POWDER HEHEHEHE all I have is cooking oil LOL
I changed my font you happy now????
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Figgy... there is no use in that shit. You want to do things right, listen and learn.....don't ask for a damn source after 7 posts. Your a scammers dream. Pup

 

[Carlito]

High dosed EQ:

400mg/ml EQ
BA 2.5%
BB 7.5%
This makes a painless high dose EQ, I tried it before.
20 grams EQ
BA 1.25 ml
BB 3.75 ml
30.5 ml of your favorite oil , I like cottonseed.
Makes 50ml of 400mg/ml high dose EQ

Carlito