as part of my ongoing research into generic hgh, I have a question that I don't see a clear answer too. I've been looking at bloodwork results on all the forums. Do all those good serum tests and igf results mean the hgh is good or not. That question was easy to figure out with steroids by doing alot of research, but hgh is whole new ball game.
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Most likely if you have good serum and good igf-1 blood work you can make an assumption that the currently gh being used it good.
It's always best if you can get a vial tested from an outside testing source.
mands
It's always best if you can get a vial tested from an outside testing source.
mands
My own personal opinion from a hell of a lot of research and a small amount of gh use. I think there is just this cult of pharma gh followers that shit on generics for whatever reason. Not to say their reasoning is not valid in their experience, but I doubt even they can speak from experience for all generics. I believe there are some top notch generics out there, but there are many more generics that are bad quality or fluctuate between bad and good (not consistent). As far as which gh to go with, I've always said, it's better to find a good source rather than search for a good product. Obviously you want a good product, but a good source will stand behind his product and his service. I think if you find a good source for generics then you are good to go. Such as the provider (tp). He sells the Grey tops. These things are constantly being tested and are said to be some of the most consistent generics on the market. He started selling another brand that he himself tested and they tested good. Sold them and the customers tested them and they were inconsistent so he immediately recalled all of them and credited customers for all kits sold. Says something about the man, imo. So if these grey tops are averaging 25ng with the testing protocol and can someone honestly show me how it would be in my best interest to pay at least 3 to 5 times more for a kit of pharma grade? There are a hell of a lot of reviews out there on some of these products and a hell of a lot of blood work to vouch for them and then there are a couple of guys preaching the opposite. I take this into consideration when researching a source or product. That's my take.
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it is the hit and miss that is the problem, grey tops are suppose to be great now but a but a month from now they may be bunk,
I believe to see good results with hgh you need to run it 6 months, so if you find good generic you need to buy 6 months worth or take your chance that 2 months in you get shitty generic gh, then you wasted your money and 2 months time , pharm is the same all the time =good.
I believe to see good results with hgh you need to run it 6 months, so if you find good generic you need to buy 6 months worth or take your chance that 2 months in you get shitty generic gh, then you wasted your money and 2 months time , pharm is the same all the time =good.
Now that's a lot of GOODS mate
But I'd agree with your premise especially since IGF assays are the best indirect means of evaluating the quality of GH. The other more direct means of testing GH (LC/MS) is not only expensive, but is a more complex process than most can begin to realize. (Mands is one exception and I KNOW of for sure )Of course the other HUGE problem MANDS eluded to and IW mentioned, the batch to batch varabiity of generic GH is so hit and miss, one can never be sure if the quality will remain the same from literally, one vial to the next.
Although MANDS and myself have both proven the quality of generic GH has improved considerably over the past few years, the batch to batch disparity remains such a significant problem, I would only recommend the use of Pharm grade GH AT PRESENT.
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OP using IGF results to determine GH quality, MANDATES you obtain a BASELINE IGF for comparison! The most reliable IGF results would involve you first obtain a baseline level, followed by the use of Pharm grade GH for several weeks. Thereafter a PH grade IGF test would be conducted as a comparison for any generic product!
Exclusive of LC/MS, a short protocol of this nature, is likely to be as good as it gets, IMO.
Exclusive of LC/MS, a short protocol of this nature, is likely to be as good as it gets, IMO.
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Hahaha I like GOOD!!!Now that's a lot of GOODS mate
Of course the other HUGE problem MANDS eluded to and IW mentioned, the batch to batch varabiity of generic GH is so hit and miss, one can never be sure if the quality will remain the same from literally, one vial to the next.
Although MANDS and myself have both proven the quality of generic GH has improved considerably over the past few years, the batch to batch disparity remains such a significant problem, I would only recommend the use of Pharm grade GH AT PRESENT.
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