The HAARLEM-Study

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  • A controversial new study, “de Haarlem studie,” from the Dutch anti-doping authority, has concluded that PCT is essentially a waste of time—or even actively detrimental.

  • The PCT study was a subgroup analysis. The full study with all its different components is currently undergoing the peer review process with a high-impact medical journal. Complete data will be available upon request after publication.

  • A brief summary of the study is available in Dutch on the Haarlem Studie Facebook Page. Here's a quick translation, followed by a summary and link to the nationwide survey of Dutch AAS users which constituted the study baseline.

  • The national survey of AAS users found doses ranging from 250–3382 mg/wk and cycle lengths from 2–52 weeks. Cycle length averaged 13 weeks and dosage averaged 900 mg. On average, four different AAS compounds were used in each cycle.

  • The study conducted AAS compound sample testing via ultra-high performance liquid chromatography coupled to quadrupole time-of-flight mass spectrometry (UPLC‐QTOF‐MS/MS).

  • AAS quality was strikingly low. Only 47% of samples tested contained the specific AAS subtype as declared on the label. Only 13% of samples contained solely the declared AAS. No AAS brand showed consistent results.
Post-Cycle Therapy: Does it Work?
de Haarlem Studie

After a cycle with AAS, many users are used to taking several weeks of medication to promote hormonal recovery. Specifically, post-cycle therapy (PCT) aims to hasten the recovery of testosterone and fertility. Resources that are widely used are anti-estrogens (e.g. tamoxifen), aromatase inhibitors (e.g. anastrozole) and LH analogues (e.g. hCG). Surprisingly, PCT has never been scientifically investigated.

Post-Cycle Therapy
From the HAARLEM study, data are available from 98 subjects for this question. 79 of them did a PCT. 19 didn't.

In the group that did a PCT, 60% had a 17-beta oestradiol of < 167 pmol/L at the time of the cycle, which was equal to or below the level of a man who does not use AAS.

Medications to prevent or treat side effects during the cycle were used by 55 subjects, mainly hCG (26), tamoxifen (23) and anastrozol (22).

PCT lasted an average of 4 weeks, usually using two different means. 70% Tamoxifen (20-40 mg/day), 70% Clomifene (50-100 mg/day), and 55% hCG (500-1000 IU 3x per week) were used in 70% of the PCT courses.

Measurements
You can see the results of the study in the attached table.

Measurement 1 is the baseline measurement.

Measurement 2 took place during the cycle—recognizable by the high testosterone concentration (this study concerns only testosterone, so no trenbolone, nandrolone, etc.).

For Measurement 3, an average of three months have passed since the end of the cycle. By this point, the PCT has been completed. The no-PCT group appears to have a better testosterone and sperm count during this measurement (16.3 vs. 14.4 nmol/L, and a reduction of 6.6 million moving sperm with no-PCT vs. reduction of 39.2 million moving sperm with PCT).

Measurement 4 took place on average eight months after the end of the cycle. The difference in testosterone levels between the groups has almost disappeared. The sperm count is relatively better in the group that did not do PCT (a reduction of 5.3 million moving sperm with no-PCT vs. reduction of 17.6 million moving sperm with PCT).

What can we learn from this data?
1) It is clear that in both groups the testosterone level remains below the baseline. The difference of –1 nmol/L is not statistically significant. Therefore, it could be a coincidence, although it may also mean that the study group was too small to prove the difference.

2) AAS harm fertility. At eight months, the sperm count is still reduced. This difference is also not quite statistically significant, but nearly so (p = 0.06). Hence we can assume with relative certainty that this is occurring.

3) PCT seems to have no effect on hormonal recovery or preservation of fertility. And if there is an effect, it is more harmful than not.

The last point is perhaps the most striking. However, it often happens that a mechanism of action on paper works very differently in practice. This first scientific evidence against PCT will be shocking to many users, since PCT is very deeply ingrained in the current culture of fitness and bodybuilders.

Given the current clinical data, it is unlikely that PCT is effective. This does not alter the fact that there are exceptions at the individual level. The placebo effect also likely plays a significant role. There are of course always remaining questions about the data, the resources, and the research. We will have to wait for further clinical studies to replicate these preliminary results, as this is the first scientific exploration of the topic to date.

Study Baseline
Scandanavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports

Just as interesting as the PCT study, the baseline which surveyed all AAS users in The Netherlands, “Baseline characteristics of the HAARLEM study: 100 male amateur athletes using anabolic androgenic steroids,” was published in the Scandanavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports (October 2019).

The survey found a range of cycle length between 2–52 weeks and dosage range from 250–3382 mg/wk. Of particular note is the strikingly low quality of AAS compounds when subject to testing (UPLC-QTOF-MS/MS).

Here's a link to the fulltext Acrobat PDF (30 pages) of the study baseline and compound testing results.

Background
The use of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) is common among visitors of fitness centers. Knowledge about health risks of AAS use is limited due to lack of clinical studies.

Methods
One hundred men, at least 18 years old, intending to start a cycle of AAS were recruited. Baseline demographical data and reasons for AAS use were recorded. Subjects provided samples of AAS for analysis with ultra-high performance liquid chromatography coupled to quadrupole time-of-flight mass spectrometry (UPLC‐QTOF‐MS/MS).

Results
One hundred and eleven men were seen for a baseline visit. 19% had competed in bodybuilding competitions. Recent illicit drug use was reported by 56%. Seventy‐seven percent of participants had used AAS in the past, and 97% of them had experienced side effects.

After exclusion, 100 men comprised the cohort for follow‐up. The AAS cycle performed had a median duration of 13 weeks (range 2‐52), and the average dose of AAS equivalents was 901 mg per week (range 250‐3.382).

Subjects used other performance and image–enhancing drugs (PIEDs) such as growth hormone (21%).

The quality of the AAS used was strikingly low. Of 272 AAS samples tested, only 47% of samples tested contained the specific AAS subtype as declared on the label. Only 13% of samples contained solely the declared AAS. No AAS brand showed consistent results.

The principal reason for AAS use was gain of muscle mass (44%). Forty‐eight percent self‐reported to being addicted to AAS.

Conclusions
The HAARLEM study cohort shows that strength athletes use AAS in a wide variety of cycles and often also use illicit drugs and other potentially harmful PIEDs. Follow‐up of the cohort will provide novel data regarding health risks of AAS use.
 

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What are your thoughts on this @Michael Scally MD?

Quite a conclusion to make ... and contrary to many studies on recovery, fertility, ... The results stated are confusing and contradictory, possibly from the lack/absence of standardization for AAS/PCT.

There is NO doubt that controlled studies are needed. This is NOT one. Curiously, is this some sort of scare tactic to avoid AAS. I say this as to the authors "Dutch anti-doping authority."

Look forward to the published study ...

Just as an aside, wonder what results might be found for studies wrt AAS/Obesity. The dearth of AAS studies is a disgrace to the medical community. AAS paranoia/hysteria has caused irreparable harm to many.
 
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What are your thoughts on this @Michael Scally MD?

  • A controversial new study, “de Haarlem studie,” from the Dutch anti-doping authority, has concluded that PCT is essentially a waste of time—or even actively detrimental.

  • The PCT study was a subgroup analysis. The full study with all its different components is currently undergoing the peer review process with a high-impact medical journal. Complete data will be available upon request after publication.

  • A brief summary of the study is available in Dutch on the Haarlem Studie Facebook Page. Here's a quick translation, followed by a summary and link to the nationwide survey of Dutch AAS users which constituted the study baseline.

  • The national survey of AAS users found doses ranging from 250–3382 mg/wk and cycle lengths from 2–52 weeks. Cycle length averaged 13 weeks and dosage averaged 900 mg. On average, four different AAS compounds were used in each cycle.

  • The study conducted AAS compound sample testing via ultra-high performance liquid chromatography coupled to quadrupole time-of-flight mass spectrometry (UPLC‐QTOF‐MS/MS).

  • AAS quality was strikingly low. Only 47% of samples tested contained the specific AAS subtype as declared on the label. Only 13% of samples contained solely the declared AAS. No AAS brand showed consistent results.
Post-Cycle Therapy: Does it Work?
de Haarlem Studie

After a cycle with AAS, many users are used to taking several weeks of medication to promote hormonal recovery. Specifically, post-cycle therapy (PCT) aims to hasten the recovery of testosterone and fertility. Resources that are widely used are anti-estrogens (e.g. tamoxifen), aromatase inhibitors (e.g. anastrozole) and LH analogues (e.g. hCG). Surprisingly, PCT has never been scientifically investigated.

Post-Cycle Therapy
From the HAARLEM study, data are available from 98 subjects for this question. 79 of them did a PCT. 19 didn't.

In the group that did a PCT, 60% had a 17-beta oestradiol of < 167 pmol/L at the time of the cycle, which was equal to or below the level of a man who does not use AAS.

Medications to prevent or treat side effects during the cycle were used by 55 subjects, mainly hCG (26), tamoxifen (23) and anastrozol (22).

PCT lasted an average of 4 weeks, usually using two different means. 70% Tamoxifen (20-40 mg/day), 70% Clomifene (50-100 mg/day), and 55% hCG (500-1000 IU 3x per week) were used in 70% of the PCT courses.

Measurements
You can see the results of the study in the attached table.

Measurement 1 is the baseline measurement.

Measurement 2 took place during the cycle—recognizable by the high testosterone concentration (this study concerns only testosterone, so no trenbolone, nandrolone, etc.).

For Measurement 3, an average of three months have passed since the end of the cycle. By this point, the PCT has been completed. The no-PCT group appears to have a better testosterone and sperm count during this measurement (16.3 vs. 14.4 nmol/L, and a reduction of 6.6 million moving sperm with no-PCT vs. reduction of 39.2 million moving sperm with PCT).

Measurement 4 took place on average eight months after the end of the cycle. The difference in testosterone levels between the groups has almost disappeared. The sperm count is relatively better in the group that did not do PCT (a reduction of 5.3 million moving sperm with no-PCT vs. reduction of 17.6 million moving sperm with PCT).

What can we learn from this data?
1) It is clear that in both groups the testosterone level remains below the baseline. The difference of –1 nmol/L is not statistically significant. Therefore, it could be a coincidence, although it may also mean that the study group was too small to prove the difference.

2) AAS harm fertility. At eight months, the sperm count is still reduced. This difference is also not quite statistically significant, but nearly so (p = 0.06). Hence we can assume with relative certainty that this is occurring.

3) PCT seems to have no effect on hormonal recovery or preservation of fertility. And if there is an effect, it is more harmful than not.

The last point is perhaps the most striking. However, it often happens that a mechanism of action on paper works very differently in practice. This first scientific evidence against PCT will be shocking to many users, since PCT is very deeply ingrained in the current culture of fitness and bodybuilders.

Given the current clinical data, it is unlikely that PCT is effective. This does not alter the fact that there are exceptions at the individual level. The placebo effect also likely plays a significant role. There are of course always remaining questions about the data, the resources, and the research. We will have to wait for further clinical studies to replicate these preliminary results, as this is the first scientific exploration of the topic to date.

Study Baseline
Scandanavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports

Just as interesting as the PCT study, the baseline which surveyed all AAS users in The Netherlands, “Baseline characteristics of the HAARLEM study: 100 male amateur athletes using anabolic androgenic steroids,” was published in the Scandanavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports (October 2019).

The survey found a range of cycle length between 2–52 weeks and dosage range from 250–3382 mg/wk. Of particular note is the strikingly low quality of AAS compounds when subject to testing (UPLC-QTOF-MS/MS).

Here's a link to the fulltext Acrobat PDF (30 pages) of the study baseline and compound testing results.

Background
The use of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) is common among visitors of fitness centers. Knowledge about health risks of AAS use is limited due to lack of clinical studies.

Methods
One hundred men, at least 18 years old, intending to start a cycle of AAS were recruited. Baseline demographical data and reasons for AAS use were recorded. Subjects provided samples of AAS for analysis with ultra-high performance liquid chromatography coupled to quadrupole time-of-flight mass spectrometry (UPLC‐QTOF‐MS/MS).

Results
One hundred and eleven men were seen for a baseline visit. 19% had competed in bodybuilding competitions. Recent illicit drug use was reported by 56%. Seventy‐seven percent of participants had used AAS in the past, and 97% of them had experienced side effects.

After exclusion, 100 men comprised the cohort for follow‐up. The AAS cycle performed had a median duration of 13 weeks (range 2‐52), and the average dose of AAS equivalents was 901 mg per week (range 250‐3.382).

Subjects used other performance and image–enhancing drugs (PIEDs) such as growth hormone (21%).

The quality of the AAS used was strikingly low. Of 272 AAS samples tested, only 47% of samples tested contained the specific AAS subtype as declared on the label. Only 13% of samples contained solely the declared AAS. No AAS brand showed consistent results.

The principal reason for AAS use was gain of muscle mass (44%). Forty‐eight percent self‐reported to being addicted to AAS.

Conclusions
The HAARLEM study cohort shows that strength athletes use AAS in a wide variety of cycles and often also use illicit drugs and other potentially harmful PIEDs. Follow‐up of the cohort will provide novel data regarding health risks of AAS use.

One more quick thought wrt report. If I understand the study what they are looking at is HPTA recovery [PCT] done by users of AAS. This is not recovery done under medical supervision. If so, I would expect the findings to be as stated in your post. It might be difficult to believe, but most AAS users do NOT practice sound recovery principles. The great majority do not allow sufficient time for the AAS to clear. Should this be their study it is a strong reason for the medical community to step up and do the studies for recovery. As I said, look forward to the paper. And, thanks for the heads up.
 
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Positive and Negative Side Effects of Androgen Abuse. The HAARLEM Study

An estimated 4-6% of fitness center visitors uses anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS). Reliable data about adverse reactions of AAS are scarce. The HAARLEM study aimed to provide insight into the positive and negative effects of AAS use.

One hundred men (≥18 years) who intended to start an AAS cycle on short notice were included for follow-up. Clinic visits took place before (T0 ), at the end (T1 ), and three months after the end of the AAS cycle (T2 ), and one year after the start of the cycle (T3 ), and comprised a medical history, physical examination, laboratory analysis and psychological questionnaires.

During the follow-up period, four subjects reported a serious adverse event, i.e. congestive heart failure, acute pancreatitis, suicidal ideation and exacerbation of ulcerative colitis. All subjects reported positive side effects during AAS use, mainly increased strength (100%), and every subject reported at least one negative health effect.

Most common were fluid retention (56%) and agitation (36%) during the cycle, and decreased libido (58%) after the cycle. Acne and gynecomastia were observed in 28% and 19%. Mean alanine transaminase (ALT) and creatinine increased 18.7 U/l and 4.7 µmol/l, respectively. AAS dose and cycle duration were not associated with the type and severity of side effects.

After one year follow-up (T3 ), the prevalence of observed effects had returned to baseline. There was no significant change in total scores of questionnaires investigating wellbeing, quality of life and depression. In conclusion, all subjects experienced positive effects during AAS use. Four subjects experienced a serious adverse event. Other side effects were mostly anticipated, mild and transient.

Smit DL, Buijs MM, de Hon O, den Heijer M, de Ronde W. Positive and negative side effects of androgen abuse. The HAARLEM study: a one year prospective cohort study in 100 men. Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2020 Oct 10. doi: 10.1111/sms.13843. Epub ahead of print. PMID: 33038020. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/sms.13843
 

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wow 53% of gear was crap! Not surprised, lots of criminals from all over in Europe. Seems like a decent study from what I quickly glossed over.
 
  • A controversial new study, “de Haarlem studie,” from the Dutch anti-doping authority, has concluded that PCT is essentially a waste of time—or even actively detrimental.

  • The PCT study was a subgroup analysis. The full study with all its different components is currently undergoing the peer review process with a high-impact medical journal. Complete data will be available upon request after publication.

  • A brief summary of the study is available in Dutch on the Haarlem Studie Facebook Page. Here's a quick translation, followed by a summary and link to the nationwide survey of Dutch AAS users which constituted the study baseline.

  • The national survey of AAS users found doses ranging from 250–3382 mg/wk and cycle lengths from 2–52 weeks. Cycle length averaged 13 weeks and dosage averaged 900 mg. On average, four different AAS compounds were used in each cycle.

  • The study conducted AAS compound sample testing via ultra-high performance liquid chromatography coupled to quadrupole time-of-flight mass spectrometry (UPLC‐QTOF‐MS/MS).

  • AAS quality was strikingly low. Only 47% of samples tested contained the specific AAS subtype as declared on the label. Only 13% of samples contained solely the declared AAS. No AAS brand showed consistent results.
Post-Cycle Therapy: Does it Work?
de Haarlem Studie

After a cycle with AAS, many users are used to taking several weeks of medication to promote hormonal recovery. Specifically, post-cycle therapy (PCT) aims to hasten the recovery of testosterone and fertility. Resources that are widely used are anti-estrogens (e.g. tamoxifen), aromatase inhibitors (e.g. anastrozole) and LH analogues (e.g. hCG). Surprisingly, PCT has never been scientifically investigated.

Post-Cycle Therapy
From the HAARLEM study, data are available from 98 subjects for this question. 79 of them did a PCT. 19 didn't.

In the group that did a PCT, 60% had a 17-beta oestradiol of < 167 pmol/L at the time of the cycle, which was equal to or below the level of a man who does not use AAS.

Medications to prevent or treat side effects during the cycle were used by 55 subjects, mainly hCG (26), tamoxifen (23) and anastrozol (22).

PCT lasted an average of 4 weeks, usually using two different means. 70% Tamoxifen (20-40 mg/day), 70% Clomifene (50-100 mg/day), and 55% hCG (500-1000 IU 3x per week) were used in 70% of the PCT courses.

Measurements
You can see the results of the study in the attached table.

Measurement 1 is the baseline measurement.

Measurement 2 took place during the cycle—recognizable by the high testosterone concentration (this study concerns only testosterone, so no trenbolone, nandrolone, etc.).

For Measurement 3, an average of three months have passed since the end of the cycle. By this point, the PCT has been completed. The no-PCT group appears to have a better testosterone and sperm count during this measurement (16.3 vs. 14.4 nmol/L, and a reduction of 6.6 million moving sperm with no-PCT vs. reduction of 39.2 million moving sperm with PCT).

Measurement 4 took place on average eight months after the end of the cycle. The difference in testosterone levels between the groups has almost disappeared. The sperm count is relatively better in the group that did not do PCT (a reduction of 5.3 million moving sperm with no-PCT vs. reduction of 17.6 million moving sperm with PCT).

What can we learn from this data?
1) It is clear that in both groups the testosterone level remains below the baseline. The difference of –1 nmol/L is not statistically significant. Therefore, it could be a coincidence, although it may also mean that the study group was too small to prove the difference.

2) AAS harm fertility. At eight months, the sperm count is still reduced. This difference is also not quite statistically significant, but nearly so (p = 0.06). Hence we can assume with relative certainty that this is occurring.

3) PCT seems to have no effect on hormonal recovery or preservation of fertility. And if there is an effect, it is more harmful than not.

The last point is perhaps the most striking. However, it often happens that a mechanism of action on paper works very differently in practice. This first scientific evidence against PCT will be shocking to many users, since PCT is very deeply ingrained in the current culture of fitness and bodybuilders.

Given the current clinical data, it is unlikely that PCT is effective. This does not alter the fact that there are exceptions at the individual level. The placebo effect also likely plays a significant role. There are of course always remaining questions about the data, the resources, and the research. We will have to wait for further clinical studies to replicate these preliminary results, as this is the first scientific exploration of the topic to date.

Study Baseline
Scandanavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports

Just as interesting as the PCT study, the baseline which surveyed all AAS users in The Netherlands, “Baseline characteristics of the HAARLEM study: 100 male amateur athletes using anabolic androgenic steroids,” was published in the Scandanavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports (October 2019).

The survey found a range of cycle length between 2–52 weeks and dosage range from 250–3382 mg/wk. Of particular note is the strikingly low quality of AAS compounds when subject to testing (UPLC-QTOF-MS/MS).

Here's a link to the fulltext Acrobat PDF (30 pages) of the study baseline and compound testing results.

Background
The use of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) is common among visitors of fitness centers. Knowledge about health risks of AAS use is limited due to lack of clinical studies.

Methods
One hundred men, at least 18 years old, intending to start a cycle of AAS were recruited. Baseline demographical data and reasons for AAS use were recorded. Subjects provided samples of AAS for analysis with ultra-high performance liquid chromatography coupled to quadrupole time-of-flight mass spectrometry (UPLC‐QTOF‐MS/MS).

Results
One hundred and eleven men were seen for a baseline visit. 19% had competed in bodybuilding competitions. Recent illicit drug use was reported by 56%. Seventy‐seven percent of participants had used AAS in the past, and 97% of them had experienced side effects.

After exclusion, 100 men comprised the cohort for follow‐up. The AAS cycle performed had a median duration of 13 weeks (range 2‐52), and the average dose of AAS equivalents was 901 mg per week (range 250‐3.382).

Subjects used other performance and image–enhancing drugs (PIEDs) such as growth hormone (21%).

The quality of the AAS used was strikingly low. Of 272 AAS samples tested, only 47% of samples tested contained the specific AAS subtype as declared on the label. Only 13% of samples contained solely the declared AAS. No AAS brand showed consistent results.

The principal reason for AAS use was gain of muscle mass (44%). Forty‐eight percent self‐reported to being addicted to AAS.

Conclusions
The HAARLEM study cohort shows that strength athletes use AAS in a wide variety of cycles and often also use illicit drugs and other potentially harmful PIEDs. Follow‐up of the cohort will provide novel data regarding health risks of AAS use.


This study is stupid.
A pct of 4 weeks is ridicule....
Pct need to be calculated on levels at end cycle and the timing of use serm and hcg depnd by theese levels.
Result of this study is obvious.
As wrote Dr Scally, pct must start when exogenous compund cleared from teh blood stream, or is absolutely normal it don't work; because is not a pc is simply use of drugs without sense...
 
There's no control between AAS cycles used in the sample, no verification that the PCT drugs used were accurately dosed or even genuine at all, no control for when the user began PCT and if it was consistent with the elimination life of the AAS used, no consistency with the actual PCT protocol used...

I'd be very wary of drawing conclusions from this study. The controls are almost nonexistent and the funding is...questionable.

To be perfectly blunt, most steroid users have no idea what in the fuck they're doing, so drawing conclusions from their behaviour without any medical controls is basically just throwing darts.

You can't look at a guy who ran nandrolone for 20 weeks who begins PCT the day after his last shot and say "PCT doesn't work," when the PCT fails, for example.
 
I feel like this study is a little limited and a tad bias due to it being run by the Dutch Anti-Doping program, especially in a country where IPED use is prohibited. How do they think the data they gathered be representative for all IPED users?
 
there are far too many studies on asih and pct problems that show the real utility of serms and ai to take this study seriously. however, it is true that there is a lack of studies comparing athletes performing pct and not pct
 
Its a good study in my mind, they wanted to keep everything varied to accurately represent how people source and consume these products. I doubt that the people included were all dumb as rocks and not following proper guidelines for PCT use - ~80% opted to use one meaning some research has been done about how to properly do a cycle. And with the availability of information out there now, I don't think complete ignorance is a defence.

Second, the idea of the questionable funding source being an anti doping agency to scare people off from using AAS is ridiculous, they would not waste this much money on a study with the takeaways being "everything returns to baseline given enough time usually" and "be wary of the product quality".

Seems like PCT will go the way of the anabolic window broscience if more research comes out confirming this finding. As someone who has an MSc in Psych, it will be a bitter pill to swallow for many people IF it turns out to be true since its paraded around like scientifically proven mantra and people do not like admitting they were wrong for years.

Maybe the old guard had it right all along, they weren't even using PCT back then just tapering up and down or going cold turkey
 
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Disruption and Recovery of Testicular Function During and After Androgen Abuse: The HAARLEM Study

Study question: What is the speed and extent by which endogenous testosterone production and spermatogenesis recover after androgen abuse?

Summary answer: Testosterone concentrations normalized within 3 months after discontinuation of androgen abuse in most subjects but recovery of spermatogenesis took longer-approximately 1 year.

What is known already: An estimated 4-6% of amateur strength athletes use androgens. Abuse of supraphysiological doses of androgens completely suppresses endogenous testosterone production and spermatogenesis.

Study design, size, duration: Prospective and observational cohort study in which 100 male amateur athletes participated for 1 year.

Participants/materials, setting, methods: Subjects (≥18 years) were included if they had not used androgens for at least 3 months and intended to start an androgen cycle within 2 weeks. Clinic visits took place before (T0), at the end (T1), and 3 months after the end of the cycle (T2), and 1 year after start of the cycle (T3), and included a blood test for gonadotrophins and sex hormones, and semen analysis.

Main results and the role of chance: During androgen abuse, 77% of subjects had a total sperm count (TSC) below 40 million. Three months after the end of the cycle (T2), total (-1.9 nmol/l, CI -12.2 to 8.33, P = 0.71) and free (-38.6 pmol/l, CI -476 to 399, P = 0.86) testosterone concentrations were not different compared to baseline, whereas mean TSC was 61.7 million (CI 33.7 to 90.0; P < 0.01) lower than baseline.

At the end of follow-up (T3), there was no statistically significant difference for total (-0.82 nmol/l, CI -11.5 to 9.86, P = 0.88) and free (-25.8 pmol/l, CI -480 to 428, P = 0.91) testosterone compared to baseline, but there was for TSC (-29.7 million, CI -59.1 to -0.39, P = 0.05). In nine (11%) subjects, however, testosterone concentrations were below normal at the end of follow-up (T3), and 25 (34%) subjects still had a TSC below 40 million.

Limitations, reasons for caution: The follow-up period (after the cycle) was relatively short, especially considering the long recovery time of spermatogenesis after discontinuation of androgens.

Wider implications of the findings: Endogenous testosterone production and spermatogenesis recover following androgen abuse in the vast majority of users. Nevertheless, not all users achieve a normalized testicular function. This may especially be the case for athletes with a high past exposure to androgens.

Smit DL, Buijs MM, de Hon O, den Heijer M, de Ronde W. Disruption and recovery of testicular function during and after androgen abuse: the HAARLEM study. Hum Reprod. 2021 Feb 7:deaa366. doi: 10.1093/humrep/deaa366. Epub ahead of print. PMID: 33550376. Disruption and recovery of testicular function during and after androgen abuse: the HAARLEM study
 

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study seems to confirm what anyone with common sense knows.


1. most gear is bunk junk, find a good source and stick to him. your primo is probably expensive Masterson and placebo affect is real

2. PCT is useless, but hey, alot of dealers and research companies love taking your money having you think clomid and nolva will help you keep 45% more of you gainz

3. coming off is stupid unless you want to shrink down, blast and cruise

4. lol at guys taking nolvadex, CLOMId, and especially HCG, probably even masteron. unless your nipples are turning to mush you need none of this shit, AI are over abused because 10 guys chimed in on a few thread you read online "OMG I ran masteron I was so grainy and dry I had veins the size of fingers on my delts brah, 1g a week Masterson is where its at"
 
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