The Lobster International, AU, CANADA and EU Domestic HGH, PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy

[Kralteramon]

Excipients, vacuum, he told me I needed mental help for asking questions about his products, etc, etc. Typical lowbrow stuff. Then made the mistake of making a bet about the Serostim, I'm a fraud, crazy person, sick, etc. You get the idea.

We had been on very good terms before that. I had been complimentary of his geno prices, testing. Seems he didn't like my questions about his manufacturing process, excipients, QC and had gotten some bad advice from "veteran / OG" members here to ignore me. Then he started with the personal attacks guised as some genuine concern for my mental health. He certainly didn't seem to like me sticking up for a member who had concern about vacuum issue with the vial(s) they received. Unfortunately this member painted themself into a corner linking their forum handle to physical address. Never do that.

I agree I wouldn't have given out my address either. But conclusion of the story.. Lobster is an asshole. No vacuum is a mistake. You're not getting your Sero. Can we close this chapter now? Tbh his HGH products are side effect free for me. Thinking there is something not right. HGH isn't without side effects. Also not willing to put down the money to test, spent too much on gear recently my wife's going to kill me if I invest more now . And indeed there might be exipients in there that are suboptimal. Dunno.. too stupid..

 

[Kralteramon]

I think you missed the part about Spiff siding with the filter guy

Let's all just be friends. Multiple brains are smarter than one.

 

[BP_6]

I remember when Chinese generic HGH very first appeared on the scene. 192aa, often caused painful welts, was still expensive, although a hell of a lot less expensive than the pharm grade. No vacuum seal, and often a bitch to get to dissolve correctly. Never ever larger than 10iu per vial max either.

 

[Kralteramon]

I remember when Chinese generic HGH very first appeared on the scene. 192aa, often caused painful welts, was still expensive, although a hell of a lot less expensive than the pharm grade. No vacuum seal, and often a bitch to get to dissolve correctly. Never ever larger than 10iu per vial max either.

We've come a long way since then. Or haven't we?

 

[readalot]

I agree I wouldn't have given out my address either. But conclusion of the story.. Lobster is an asshole. No vacuum is a mistake. You're not getting your Sero. Can we close this chapter now?

What do you recommend? You seem like a wise dude with a good heart. Of course you could be Lobster's alt, lol. J/k.

Tbh his HGH products are side effect free for me. Thinking there is something not right. HGH isn't without side effects. Also not willing to put down the money to test, spent too much on gear recently my wife's going to kill me if I invest more now . And indeed there might be exipients in there that are suboptimal. Dunno.. too stupid..

How much are you running? How long have you been running it? I didn't have any sides with Sero up to 4 IU/d. Thought I was getting some wrist issues one day but I think I was just being hypersensitive. Also ran a premium "GMP" UG GH, no issues. My experience with "generic" up to 5 IU wasn't good. Itching like crazy and another very troubling side.

Thanks for being a voice of reason here.

 

[Kralteramon]

What do you recommend? You seem like a wise dude with a good heart. Of course you could be Lobster's alt, lol. J/k.

How much are you running? How long have you been running it? I didn't have any sides with Sero up to 4 IU/d. Thought I was getting some wrist issues one day but I think I was just being hypersensitive. Also ran a premium "GMP" UG GH, no issues. My experience with "generic" up to 5 IU wasn't good. Itching like crazy and another very troubling side.

Thanks for being a voice of reason here.

Thanks for the compliment. I don't consider myself wise by any means but who knows sometimes some wise words may come out . I actually believe your story because in my dealings with lob he's been short and rude in his comms. He's that kind of person. There's not much we can do to change that. In this case any escalation is just adding oil to the fire. He won't pay up.

I've explained my findings in the below thread. Long story short. Taking about 3.5iu per day according to the specs/test reports. But with QSC HGH i get an almost instant 7bpm RHR jump and a decline in HRV that lasts throughout the day. With lobster I get no RHR bump on the same dose.

Received SSA HGH earlier, going to see how that effects my heart markers.

Thread 'RHR difference between HGH brands' RHR difference between HGH brands

 

[readalot]

Thanks for the compliment. I don't consider myself wise by any means but who knows sometimes some wise words may come out . I actually believe your story because in my dealings with lob he's been short and rude in his comms. He's that kind of person. There's not much we can do to change that. In this case any escalation is just adding oil to the fire. He won't pay up.

I've explained my findings in the below thread. Long story short. Taking about 3.5iu per day according to the specs/test reports. But with QSC HGH i get an almost instant 7bpm RHR jump and a decline in HRV that lasts throughout the day. With lobster I get no RHR bump on the same dose.

Received SSA HGH earlier, going to see how that effects my heart markers.

Thread 'RHR difference between HGH brands' RHR difference between HGH brands

I will check out the thread and consider your suggestions. Thank you.

Fwiw, any RHR elevation on Sero was quite minimal for me and very hard to deconvolute from what I experience on higher androgen doses, which I was running during the GH experiments. Of course we are all different and in various states of health, cardio capacity, immune system, etc.

Best wishes on your trials.

 

[Kralteramon]

I will check out the thread and consider your suggestions. Thank you.

Fwiw, any RHR elevation on Sero was quite minimal for me and very hard to deconvolute from what I experience on higher androgen doses, which I was running during the GH experiments. Of course we are all different and in various states of health, cardio capacity, immune system, etc.

Best wishes on your trials.

Thanks. I've been running the same and had a stable RHR of 69 without the HGH. With Lobster HGH it doesn't budge. With QSC HGH on the same dose +7. Ghoul said it has to be the potency, either higher dose or something to do with absorpsion. But my gut feeling is that it's something else. Anyway. After testing SSA HGH for it's effects on RHR and HRV I'm going to come off, test baseline IGF and then run bloods with IGF between the brands. Not to say that the outcome is going to mean much because there is still variance in dose per vial,batch and brand. But it'l give me some proof of effectiveness vs side effects.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I agree I wouldn't have given out my address either. But conclusion of the story.. Lobster is an asshole. No vacuum is a mistake. You're not getting your Sero. Can we close this chapter now? Tbh his HGH products are side effect free for me. Thinking there is something not right. HGH isn't without side effects. Also not willing to put down the money to test, spent too much on gear recently my wife's going to kill me if I invest more now . And indeed there might be exipients in there that are suboptimal. Dunno.. too stupid..

I never really get too many sides. Serostim has minimal sides for me too.

I dont know why anyone would scam for the one of the cheapest peptides.

 

[Kralteramon]

I never really get too many sides. Serostim has minimal sides for me too.

I dont know why anyone would scam for the one of the cheapest peptides.

Something wrong with doesn't equal scam. It may or may not be intentional. I don't think it is. Unless it's for example an exit scam.

 

[Bobik]

Something wrong with doesn't equal scam. It may or may not be intentional. I don't think it is. Unless it's for example an exit scam.

Lobster GH also increases my HR less because it holds less water. I tested Jano and serum GH in my blood. Everything is fine and good results.

 

[readalot]

I dont know why anyone would scam for the one of the cheapest peptides.

I mean who doesn't pay out on a bet? That's about as low as you can get on either side of the tracks. Universal law / bedrock of society.

 

[TheLobster]

Lobster GH also increases my HR less because it holds less water. I tested Jano and serum GH in my blood. Everything is fine and good results.

I really don’t have time to waste on trolls like this. He claims there’s something wrong with the HGH just because he didn’t experience any side effects . I’ve never heard anything more ridiculous in my life. Among so many people who appreciate my work, of course there will be a few dissatisfied ones like him. That’s completely normal. Everyone who understands quality and knows what real quality means continues working with me

Thanks for the nice review . I feel truly happy when I see good and honest people like you

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I mean who doesn't pay out on a bet?

Since you asked for my opinion.

Probably someone who thinks the other person is a waste of time and has 0 respect for them.

 

[readalot]

when I see good and honest people like you

 

[readalot]

Since you asked for my opinion.

Probably someone who thinks the other person is a waste of time and has 0 respect for them.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I did ask. That tells alot about the person when they back out (looking for any reason they can to justify).

 

[TheLobster]

I mean who doesn't pay out on a bet? That's about as low as you can get on either side of the tracks. Universal law / bedrock of society.

I offered you 2 kits of Serotism. Yes, you won the bet. I asked for your address, but you didn’t provide it and said you didn’t want any Serotism. I didn’t offer you money, I didn’t offer to test anything, and I didn’t offer products for someone else. I only made a bet to send you a product. You refused.You clearly stated you didn’t want it. So why are you still here, obsessively bothering and disturbing me like a sick mind?

Please stop acting like a child. Be a grown man and stop spamming here and elsewhere

From now on, I won’t respond to anything you write. Please stop exhausting me

Thanks

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I offered you 2 kits of Serotism. Yes, you won the bet. I asked for your address, but you didn’t provide it and said you didn’t want any Serotism. I didn’t offer you money, I didn’t offer to test anything, and I didn’t offer products for someone else. I only made a bet to send you a product. You refused.You clearly stated you didn’t want it. So why are you still here, obsessively bothering and disturbing me like a sick mind?

Please stop acting like a child. Be a grown man and stop spamming here and elsewhere

From now on, I won’t respond to anything you write. Please stop exhausting me

Thanks

so technically he is altered the guidelines of the bet. refused the product.

I understand now. there was a lot of stuff missing from this.

 

[TheLobster]

so technically he is altered the guidelines of the bet. refused the product.

I understand now. there was a lot of stuff missing from this.

I really didn’t even want to respond at all, but he’s been writing messages every single day for the past 10 days. This guy seriously has issues. I’m warning everyone who puts their trust in him this person does not have a normal mindset and clearly has problems

 

[readalot]

I offered you 2 kits of Serotism. Yes, you won the bet. I asked for your address, but you didn’t provide it and said you didn’t want any Serotism. I didn’t offer you money, I didn’t offer to test anything, and I didn’t offer products for someone else. I only made a bet to send you a product. You refused.You clearly stated you didn’t want it. So why are you still here, obsessively bothering and disturbing me like a sick mind?

Please stop acting like a child. Be a grown man and stop spamming here and elsewhere

From now on, I won’t respond to anything you write. Please stop exhausting me

Thanks

Since you want to provide selective snapshots and disclose DMs...







"I buy you 2 box of Serostim right now".

I will let folks interpret what that means. Clearly i stated what I interpreted it as above. After you lost you then asked for my address. An address was never part of the bet. Anyone with a shred of morals would pay the street price for 2 boxes.

You clearly got me. I am completely deranged offering to put the funds into testing pool instead of my pocket.

Now that you have opened the DM gate I should share all your DMs with your beautiful concern for my mental health after asking about excipients. You are a class act my man.