Whoremoans
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200mg primo bro, I swear..
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The most massive heavy cycle you ever did? What was it?
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200mg primo bro, I swear..
"200mg primo.... into each glute, delt, pec and lat" was the full quote, right?
weighted chinup
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I don't remember DY saying his cycle only consisted of 200mg primobolan, he posted his full cycle in MD a while back and it was a decent amount of gear.
If you mean how much gear he was running the days / weeks before a show - consider the fact that other pros in the 90's claimed they discontinued ALL gear entirely 1-2 weeks out, it's not unrealistic and you wouldn't lose much of anything in that much time going that low, and you will be holding substantially less water. It seems more like a good competition strategy rather than a fabrication.
Let's be honest with ourselves fellas, I know most of us ITT have run high dosages of weekly anabolics, but can any of us really say it was that much more beneficial with confidence?
I think the allure from the high-dosage myth comes from peoples unwillingness to acknowledge that a pro physique isn't in the cards for them (including yours truly), which is why people dispute the claimed dosages of pro's so much. It's not that they're trying to discount their work or claim it's all drugs, people just want to keep the dream alive. If you can't get disgusting looking off 1000mg week, chances are it's going to take a long time to build an impressive physique - and doubling or tripling gear intake isn't going to make it happen substantially quicker.
If you mean how much gear he was running the days / weeks before a show - consider the fact that other pros in the 90's claimed they discontinued ALL gear entirely 1-2 weeks out, it's not unrealistic and you wouldn't lose much of anything in that much time going that low, and you will be holding substantially less water. It seems more like a good competition strategy rather than a fabrication.
Let's be honest with ourselves fellas, I know most of us ITT have run high dosages of weekly anabolics, but can any of us really say it was that much more beneficial with confidence?
I think the allure from the high-dosage myth comes from peoples unwillingness to acknowledge that a pro physique isn't in the cards for them (including yours truly), which is why people dispute the claimed dosages of pro's so much. It's not that they're trying to discount their work or claim it's all drugs, people just want to keep the dream alive. If you can't get disgusting looking off 1000mg week, chances are it's going to take a long time to build an impressive physique - and doubling or tripling gear intake isn't going to make it happen substantially quicker.
You could be right about the quote, even if it's 500mg's of primo and some tren or whatever, I'd still be shocked, but of course it's possible. I'm sure his GH was the defining factor, as I believe he was one of the first to really "abuse" GH.
In my experience, there is certainly a point of diminishing returns. As I highlighted earlier, 500mg's is substantially less effective than 1000mg's a week of test. However, 1500mg's isn't THAT much more incredible than 1000mg's, and 2000 being even LESS incredible than 1500. I have had better results running a variety of compounds, than just one compound really high. A DHT, test and a 19nor summing 2 grams will go a lot further than 2 grams of test alone, for example.
As a follow up to my above comment, I still DO believe you can subsitute poor genetics with higher drugs, if your only end goal is an enhanced physique. Maybe a guy who is a freak with genetics can use 500mg's of test to achieve the same results as another guy who may need 1 gram, even on the same exact diet and training plan.
weighted chinup
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Absolutely, but I don't think high dosages will give someone who has an average physique after a few cycles a truly impressive physique just by upping gear intake, time / patience is the only thing that will give them what they're after . If someone ran a few cycles at 1000mg / week and looks decent, and he runs a cycle at 3000mg / week, I don't think the difference will be night and day. He'll build a little more size, but unless he was doing something horribly wrong on his previous cycles, I don't think it will be that impactful.
Lol, im not trying to keep no dream alive. I juice cuz i like it and i like bending iron and i like to see sweeping changes. Aint trying to compare myself to no pro???
No more than when i pick up a kitchen knife and prepare dinner. Im not trying to be the next Emeril Lagassi
Or when i get in my truck and drive to work. Im not trying to be the next Brian deegan
The truth is were all on a spectrum. Growing muscles is just another way to measure individual talent. Ranging from the extremes (pro's) to the hard gainers. I do it for me
No more than when i pick up a kitchen knife and prepare dinner. Im not trying to be the next Emeril Lagassi
Or when i get in my truck and drive to work. Im not trying to be the next Brian deegan
The truth is were all on a spectrum. Growing muscles is just another way to measure individual talent. Ranging from the extremes (pro's) to the hard gainers. I do it for me
Agreed, totally agreed. I've seen it a lot, actually. Now, with GH I think that's a different story, too. More is ALMOST always better. I mean, sure, there are negative health implications, but we can largely leave that aside for the sake of argument here... High GH has a proven track record of almost always enhancing a physique. I also believe 9/10 guys come up short due to diet or overdoing one drug and not understanding it's effects fully/running bloods.
weighted chinup
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I get that, I'm not knocking on anyone for anything either, I just think that based on my own experiences and what I've observed that high dosages are not that beneficial and some of the hype around it comes from the notion that pro's used a lot more than what they claim - which I don't necessarily believe.
We're pulled in all difference directions, though. We have people like Bostin Loyd, Cagedfreak over at AB etc. who DO have good physiques and run ludicrous amounts of gear (Cagedfreak is an alleged IFBB pro who has run 7G of test off season, allegedly...). Then we have guys like Lee Priest who say they ran very little... I don't know, but my gut instinct tells me they are telling half-truths to seem believable to those who aren't in the know. Anythings possible, I've seen crazy natural physiques before... Add some drugs in there and who knows what's possible? For me, to get anywhere near what I consider impressive, I need a fair bit of drugs... It is, what it is. Overtime I'm beginning to focus more on learning about diets, and less about the drugs... But the drugs are just the most fascinating part to me... I hope this year to Incorporate my (hopefully) well-structure diet with good training and somewhat moderate (for me) drug usage and be further than I ever have been
WC, I think you'd like Dave Palumbo... If you don't know much about him, his Youtube channel is good. He basically says the same shit about the drugs.
kiwigear
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That's like me. Til 31 I never weighed more than 150 pounds EVER.. I could eat like fuck. No change... Saw a dietician. No change. Started weight training and I grew.. I couldn't believe it. Dialed in diet and I grew more. Added gear and now I'm over 280...We're pulled in all difference directions, though. We have people like Bostin Loyd, Cagedfreak over at AB etc. who DO have good physiques and run ludicrous amounts of gear (Cagedfreak is an alleged IFBB pro who has run 7G of test off season, allegedly...). Then we have guys like Lee Priest who say they ran very little... I don't know, but my gut instinct tells me they are telling half-truths to seem believable to those who aren't in the know. Anythings possible, I've seen crazy natural physiques before... Add some drugs in there and who knows what's possible? For me, to get anywhere near what I consider impressive, I need a fair bit of drugs... It is, what it is. Overtime I'm beginning to focus more on learning about diets, and less about the drugs... But the drugs are just the most fascinating part to me... I hope this year to Incorporate my (hopefully) well-structure diet with good training and somewhat moderate (for me) drug usage and be further than I ever have been
WC, I think you'd like Dave Palumbo... If you don't know much about him, his Youtube channel is good. He basically says the same shit about the drugs.
I just like experimenting with lots of anabolics
Cuz Wunderpus is
And everybody knows wunder-p-u-s is cool
Cuz Wunderpus is
And everybody knows wunder-p-u-s is cool
RodgerThat
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Currently on my biggest cycle:
750mg test e
600mg tren e
800mg mast e
70mg anavar Ed 1-4
Halo 40mg Ed 12-14
Thought it was kinda a heavy cycle till I saw what WP is running
750mg test e
600mg tren e
800mg mast e
70mg anavar Ed 1-4
Halo 40mg Ed 12-14
Thought it was kinda a heavy cycle till I saw what WP is running
Stop making me blush in front of everyone, okay?I just like experimenting with lots of anabolics
Cuz Wunderpus is
And everybody knows wunder-p-u-s is cool
*WP is NOT cool! WP DOES NOT condone the practices he does to any readers!*
I ran that one a while back LOL, that's not what I'm doing currently, I'm low key right now.Currently on my biggest cycle:
750mg test e
600mg tren e
800mg mast e
70mg anavar Ed 1-4
Halo 40mg Ed 12-14
Thought it was kinda a heavy cycle till I saw what WP is running
Oh, and Halo.... Halo.... Halo.... I love you Halo....
RodgerThat
New Member
I'm pretty sure halo is what miracles are made of, if it didn't have so many terrible sides for your body I would run that shit as my only oral
Who knows, I'm not sure how bad it actually is or is not.... I sometimes wonder how over-exaggerated the hepatoxicty is... It seems the rarer the oral, the more DEADLY it is.... Cheque drops, oral tren, halo etc. are all these alleged killers, but I've never really seen any evidence to prove either way.
RodgerThat
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Oooo thanks for reminding me I gotta get myself some cheque drops to try never have. I was gonna try methyltren but I honestly couldn't find anyone that had personal experience with it so decided not too. I don't know how liver toxic halo would be maybe I could get
Liver value test at the 12 day to actually see cause I never took values while on it only while I was on dbol have I.
kiwigear
New Member
I wonder how much, if any, they are worse then superdrol.. That shits just sides in a capsule
Whoremoans
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I'm learning all about superdrol sides currently.. While taking dbol and tren..
