The problem of doctors’ salaries

Michael Scally MD

Doctor of Medicine
10+ Year Member


The United States pays more than twice as much per person for health care as other wealthy countries. We tend to blame the high prices on things like drugs and medical equipment, in part because the price tag for many life-saving drugs is less than half the U.S. price in Canada or Europe.

But an unavoidable part of the high cost of U.S. health care is how much we pay doctors — twice as much on average as physicians in other wealthy countries. Because our doctors are paid, on average, more than $250,000 a year (even after malpractice insurance and other expenses), and more than 900,000 doctors in the country, that means we pay an extra $100 billion a year in doctor salaries. That works out to more than $700 per U.S. household per year. We can think of this as a kind of doctors’ tax.

Doctors and other highly paid professionals stand out in this respect. Our autoworkers and retail clerks do not in general earn more than their counterparts in other wealthy countries.

Most Americans are likely to be sympathetic to the idea that doctors should be well paid. After all, it takes many years of education and training, including long hours as an intern and resident, to become a doctor. And people generally respect and trust their doctors. But they likely don’t realize how out of line our doctors’ pay is with doctors in other wealthy countries.

However, as an economist, I look for structural explanations for pay disparities like this. And when economists like me look at medicine in America – whether we lean left or right politically – we see something that looks an awful lot like a cartel.
 
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There you have it... It isn't the doc's "salary" that is the main cost component of treatment (250k spread over how many hundreds/thousands of patients multiplied by how many treatments? Come on... Dean Baker does't math very well, but then, he IS an economist and math has always been optional for them) it is the amazing overhead and compliance burden that necessitates that massive admin bloat.

This is the same innumerate argument made about CEO salaries in the $millions in a company with 10 of trillions of transactions each year. Every CEO in the world could make their salary a $1 and not impact the cost of living by a fucking cent per annum.

Gah.
 
250k is just the average.


Sure but it tens to top out in average states with specialist in the 400k range...

Even it is was literally $2.5 million per year... the sheer number of patients and procedures per year basically makes it a nonce.

Let's just roll some thought numbers out to see:

1 family doc.
$250K per year.

Average US doctor panel size per year is 2,300 patients (no really! see footnote 1) but lets cut it in half to 1150 patient seen each year at an average treatment rate of a very conservative 2.5 procedures etc per year per patient.

1150 x 2.5 = 2875 "procedures" per year. None of which we will bother characterizing by complexity etc... This essentially assumes all procedures are 45 average minutes long including time spent outside the direct patient time (logging records, research, patient history, etc). That would be 2156 hours of labor each year, which already exceeds a standard labor year.

250,000 / 2875 = a whopping $87 of "added" cost per visit (if we assume that the entire thing is a cost burden and that their salary should actually be zero).

Total burden to the average patient at these wildly conservative figures is $261 per year.

Realistically the actual cost per procedure added by the doctor' salary is far lower than that. The math just isn't intuitive when people look at their salary compared to the docs... they are generally unable to get away from the emotion associated to actually figure out how little per treatment that bit is.

I charge more to show up and reset people's routers.

Edited to include a labor hour portion I had left in Notepad.

Footnote 1:
Panel size
Physicians in retainer (“Concierge”) practice
 
There is a HUGE opportunity and financial cost to undergoing medical education/training in the United States.

I know this since I am hopefully going to medical school and have gone partway down the path in addition to analyzing all the costs.

Undergraduate generally takes 4 years and up to 200k. Many medical schools like to see masters degrees now, so slap another 2 years and up to 100k. Then medical school is 4 years and up to 400k. So it's totally possible to come out of medical school with 500k+ debt that is RAPIDLY accruing interest. And you won't even touch the interest on that loan during residency, which is 4 or more years of making 50k-60k.

When you sit down and crunch the numbers, the salaries commanded start to make more sense. Personally, I think that medical education [and higher education in general in the United States] is hugely bloated. We should adopt a more European model that graduates doctors from medical school within 6 years of graduating from high school. Other countries are capable of graduating competent doctors in much shorter time frames at much less expense, so why can't we? In a way, the salaries of doctors in the United States can be viewed as a subsidization of the grossly bloated higher education system found in the United States.

That aside, the salaries actually do make sense given what is required to become an attending physician in this country.
 
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I don't have a problem with them making so much.

A lot of physcians are in the 170-200 range. Like your family doctors and such.
Considering they have to give up 12 years of their life and then 2 years of salary to pay off their debt I'd say it's pretty reasonable.

Pharmaceutical companies on the other hand can go fuck right off.
 
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