The weirdest guy here...

[Mxgainzflex]

I know, i know... But i always want more testosterone. I feel like there is a lot more that goes into it than just testosterone or i would have been bigger. I had gyno naturally occuring when i was 14, found out my body was converting lots of t. to est. and my dht levels were higher than normal. No wonder I'm already balding. That's when i first started thinking about hormones. Also what frightened me away from juice.

I've tried crazy things like eating tablespoons of turmeric powder and fresh squeezed raw garlic juice by the bulb, daily. It does work if you're wondering but still ain't the big boy juice.

Also I'm convinced my levels arent that high anymore because i havent been dieting, exercising or sleeping right. I'll post some current pics so you can see the difference.

 

[Eman]

Also I'm convinced my levels arent that high anymore

Get a blood test and you'll know. I've seen it on here many times where someone is convinced they have low T and need TRT... The blood tests usually come back normal though and they are still convinced something is wrong with their test levels! ( I typically assume they just want to have a good excuse to start pinning away... )

 

[Oregongearhead]

I know, i know... But i always want more testosterone. I feel like there is a lot more that goes into it than just testosterone or i would have been bigger. I had gyno naturally occuring when i was 14, found out my body was converting lots of t. to est. and my dht levels were higher than normal. No wonder I'm already balding. That's when i first started thinking about hormones. Also what frightened me away from juice.

I've tried crazy things like eating tablespoons of turmeric powder and fresh squeezed raw garlic juice by the bulb, daily. It does work if you're wondering but still ain't the big boy juice.

Also I'm convinced my levels arent that high anymore because i havent been dieting, exercising or sleeping right. I'll post some current pics so you can see the difference.

And you wont look like the big-boys unless you do the "big-boy juice" . All of us that use here can attest to that . But I can tell you that 1200+ng is in the highest part of the Bell curve . I wouldnt screw that up with careless cycles and no PCT . And chances are good that your test is as good as it was , or close to as earlier. 1000ng plus is exceptional and more than enough to build and maintain . But if you want steroid muscle you gotta do steroids . Still not enough muscle ? Then you gotta add growth hormone too ($$$)...

You need a full hormone panel , and I would include Prolactin & DHT tests as well as Total/free Testosterone , Estridiol and LH,FSH and SHBG . You can also get IGF-1 and GH testing if you want to totally cover all your bases . Goodluck ~Ogh

 

[Eman]

Damn I had to go back and reread this thread and refresh my memory. You don't see +1000 natural levels very often.

 

[Mxgainzflex]

And you wont look like the big-boys unless you do the "big-boy juice" . All of us that use here can attest to that . But I can tell you that 1200+ng is in the highest part of the Bell curve . I wouldnt screw that up with careless cycles and no PCT . And chances are good that your test is as good as it was , or close to as earlier. 1000ng plus is exceptional and more than enough to build and maintain . But if you want steroid muscle you gotta do steroids . Still not enough muscle ? Then you gotta add growth hormone too ($$$)...

You need a full hormone panel , and I would include Prolactin & DHT tests as well as Total/free Testosterone , Estridiol and LH,FSH and SHBG . You can also get IGF-1 and GH testing if you want to totally cover all your bases . Goodluck ~Ogh

I think the IGF-1/GH is a bit excessive but i do understand the point entirely. I used to think that was doing great considering the research on natural levels, then i met a guy at the gym who is competing for natural powerllifting titles on the national level. He's tested in at around 4000 l. Personally i have a hard time accepting it but he's tested quite often.

 

[D-Ballin]

Bullshit.

And if it's true, that poor bastard is not going to make it long.

 

[Oregongearhead]

I think the IGF-1/GH is a bit excessive but i do understand the point entirely. I used to think that was doing great considering the research on natural levels, then i met a guy at the gym who is competing for natural powerllifting titles on the national level. He's tested in at around 4000 l. Personally i have a hard time accepting it but he's tested quite often.

4000ng TT natty ? Natural with no T-boosters ?
Hes a freak then and probably has a gland defect (lol). Never heard of over 1600ng TT naturally....

 

[Str8Shooter]

Thanks for the warm welcome guys.

CdnGuy, it sucks, i was up to eating 3500 cals a day last time and it's just a chore at that point. Ramped up to about 4200 cals at my max weight.

MindlessWork, I can't deny, I am debating what to do with all that tax money ill be getting back... I worked my butt off in 2015.

A modest amount of gear can lead to some pretty significant gains. Just a trt dose of 100mg p/w gives some significant drive and composition changes. I'm not suggesting anything, I know how you feel, just throwing that out there.

 

[Mxgainzflex]

A modest amount of gear can lead to some pretty significant gains. Just a trt dose of 100mg p/w gives some significant drive and composition changes. I'm not suggesting anything, I know how you feel, just throwing that out there.

It's practically impossible. Trust me ive tried convincing people of the likelihood thst hes a liar but time will expose the truth. Supermales do exist though. Not sure what their lifespan is like. This is me now.

 

[D-Ballin]

That's pretty crazy if he's not bullshitting. That could potentially be a very detrimental health disorder. Some people seem to handle it better though. Good he's staying in shape with it.

 

[penche]

Welcome aboard bro

 

[LionHeart]

Haha damn man you sound just like me with all the natural test booster research. I still use turmeric in my meals and take shilajit (pretty much just a mineral supplement really), was even trying pine pollen extract, ashwagandha, and a few others, but yeah never noticed anything too crazy. However, when I do end up running a cycle I'll honestly probably use some of what I learned and incorporate that into pct, I figure it will only help if anything. Yeah just like you my job took over, working long hours doing physical labor and the routine of going to the gym slowly faded away. I'm just now getting back at it so hopefully you and me both will be in tip top shape in no time, good luck man.

 

[Ironwill1999]

Welcome