Thenewera is taking over

[Wunderpus]

Friends, non-friends, ladies, gents and all other things somewhere in between.... My friend @Thenewera has asked me for help and guidance throughout a SURELY transformative period in his life. The dude is READY to grow! He has asked I post his first input below... TNE and I have spent some time putting this together, from the bottom all the way up... Here we are! It's interesting having two minds working on a common goal such as this. This cycle may not be textbook, but neither are him and I. I hope you guys are ready to see an EVEN BIGGER BEAST in a few months! And of course, he will be posting as well.... Thanks!



My fancy little off-season.. with @Wunderpus playing scientist and I'm the lab rat. Sounds fun, kind of, right?

* NEXT SHOW : Mid October 2017
* OFF-SEASON LENGTH: 46-48 weeks total prepping time. 34-36 week *off season*
* 11/14/16 Weight: 201lbs:



GOALS:
My goals for this offseason are to top myself out around 240lbs - OR - 225-230 whilst staying more lean. As I've shown you all and I've learned, I honestly respond very well to cutting and substances. I want a STAGE weight of 210lbs which would be a 30lb increase of my recent October show here..oh and to obviously come in 2% bodyfat lower and a tighter waist than ever.





GEAR:
The fun part. Keep up.
1-12 : 1.25g test c/750mg deca
1-5 : 50mg dbol + 10mg superdrol
9-13 : 100mg anadrol
13-16 : 250mg sust e7d + clen/t3
18-22 : 50mg dbol + 10mg superdrol
17-28 : 1g test c/500mg deca/500mg mast
27-31 : 100mg anadrol
29-32 : 250mg sust e7d + clen/t3
34-46 : 250mg test c/750mg tren/500mg mast
36-45 : 100mg anadrol + clen/t3
46-48 : 20mg superdrol + clen/t3
47-48 : 2.5mg letro - diuretics as needed
*humalog @ building up to 15iu 4wk on/off and then repeat. Can't wait to see what this brings.

DIET:
This is a hard one. It will fluctuate so much as weight comes and goes. Let's say this is base:
Blast 1 : topping at 4.5k Cals
Blast 2 : topping at 5k Cals
Blast 3 : hopefully not to cut cut lower than 2k

** conclusion.
I do not advise anyone to run the numbers I'm running. Whilst many have done much more, I, myself, consider this far from the intermediate user. @Wunderpus is a good friend of mine and I have known him for a long time now, he's one of the most solid guys I've met in this game. I've trusted him to help structure and guide me through this offseason and basically be my mentor. For anyone asking of my age, I am not at liberty to say. I advise waiting until you're at least the age of 25 or have been diagnosed with low T to ever begin the thoughts of AAS or PH or PED drugs.

Who's in? It's gonna be a fun ride..

 

[Eman]

GEAR:
The fun part. Keep up.
1-12 : 1.25g test c/750mg deca
1-5 : 50mg dbol + 10mg superdrol
9-13 : 100mg anadrol
13-16 : 250mg sust e7d + clen/t3
18-22 : 50mg dbol + 10mg superdrol
17-28 : 1g test c/500mg deca/500mg mast
27-31 : 100mg anadrol
29-32 : 250mg sust e7d + clen/t3
34-46 : 250mg test c/750mg tren/500mg mast
36-45 : 100mg anadrol + clen/t3
46-48 : 20mg superdrol + clen/t3
47-48 : 2.5mg letro - diuretics as needed
*humalog @ building up to 15iu 4wk on/off and then repeat. Can't wait to see what this brings

Where's the rest?

Subbed.

 

[Wunderpus]

Where's the rest?

Subbed.

You chill over there Eman!

 

[Eman]

You chill over there Eman!

Just sayin, dunno how TNE is supposed to grow with this measly cycle.

 

[ronin17]

Friends, non-friends, ladies, gents and all other things somewhere in between.... My friend @Thenewera has asked me for help and guidance throughout a SURELY transformative period in his life. The dude is READY to grow! He has asked I post his first input below... TNE and I have spent some time putting this together, from the bottom all the way up... Here we are! It's interesting having two minds working on a common goal such as this. This cycle may not be textbook, but neither are him and I. I hope you guys are ready to see an EVEN BIGGER BEAST in a few months! And of course, he will be posting as well.... Thanks!



My fancy little off-season.. with @Wunderpus playing scientist and I'm the lab rat. Sounds fun, kind of, right?

* NEXT SHOW : Mid October 2017
* OFF-SEASON LENGTH: 46-48 weeks total prepping time. 34-36 week *off season*
* 11/14/16 Weight: 201lbs:



GOALS:
My goals for this offseason are to top myself out around 240lbs - OR - 225-230 whilst staying more lean. As I've shown you all and I've learned, I honestly respond very well to cutting and substances. I want a STAGE weight of 210lbs which would be a 30lb increase of my recent October show here..oh and to obviously come in 2% bodyfat lower and a tighter waist than ever.





GEAR:
The fun part. Keep up.
1-12 : 1.25g test c/750mg deca
1-5 : 50mg dbol + 10mg superdrol
9-13 : 100mg anadrol
13-16 : 250mg sust e7d + clen/t3
18-22 : 50mg dbol + 10mg superdrol
17-28 : 1g test c/500mg deca/500mg mast
27-31 : 100mg anadrol
29-32 : 250mg sust e7d + clen/t3
34-46 : 250mg test c/750mg tren/500mg mast
36-45 : 100mg anadrol + clen/t3
46-48 : 20mg superdrol + clen/t3
47-48 : 2.5mg letro - diuretics as needed
*humalog @ building up to 15iu 4wk on/off and then repeat. Can't wait to see what this brings.

DIET:
This is a hard one. It will fluctuate so much as weight comes and goes. Let's say this is base:
Blast 1 : topping at 4.5k Cals
Blast 2 : topping at 5k Cals
Blast 3 : hopefully not to cut cut lower than 2k

** conclusion.
I do not advise anyone to run the numbers I'm running. Whilst many have done much more, I, myself, consider this far from the intermediate user. @Wunderpus is a good friend of mine and I have known him for a long time now, he's one of the most solid guys I've met in this game. I've trusted him to help structure and guide me through this offseason and basically be my mentor. For anyone asking of my age, I am not at liberty to say. I advise waiting until you're at least the age of 25 or have been diagnosed with low T to ever begin the thoughts of AAS or PH or PED drugs.

Who's in? It's gonna be a fun ride..

Whats the training going to be? High rep, high weight, compound, etc?

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I like stuff that "may not be textbook." I'll be following.

 

[Wunderpus]

Just sayin, dunno how TNE is supposed to grow with this measly cycle.

So far TNE has responded very well to anabolics. We can always adjust accordingly... Remember, two people worked on this... I think he will grow, I really do.

@ronin17 I believe he will be doing JM's Sentinel, last I heard....

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

So this is a 48 week high dose cycle?

 

[Eman]

So far TNE has responded very well to anabolics. We can always adjust accordingly... Remember, two people worked on this... I think he will grow, I really do.

Lol I'm just fucking with you bud. He's going to grow.

Curious about the sustanon being included e7d? Just using for the long ester or?

 

[Wunderpus]

So this is a 48 week high dose cycle?

There is a 3 week cruise in the middle.

@Eman he wanted sust because he felt that was the minimal amount of pinning. Personally, I am not a huge fan of sust. I would've, personally, opted for test enan E4d.. To each their own.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I would certainly hope a mere 10 lbs would be the result after a year long high dose cycle.
I hope you do this safe and have fun
But you are very young relying heavily on gear to do the work
I learned a valuable lesson on my last cycle. Huge cycles arent what their made out to be.
Have to reside to the fact this will take time.
I dont want to upset anyone in here cuz its not my place. Do as you want. But this is kinda fuggin nutz

 

[Oregongearhead]

SUBBED . If anyone here knows super-cycles its @Wunderpus .
TNE has got the genes ; make that guy a MONSTER !

 

[Eman]

There is a 3 week cruise in the middle.

@Eman he wanted sust because he felt that was the minimal amount of pinning. Personally, I am not a huge fan of sust. I would've, personally, opted for test enan E4d.. To each their own.

I would agree with you... Seems like water retention pops up when there are fluctuations in the hormone levels, which there will be @ e7d sust pin. Might make the scale go a little wacky when running the T3 and clen.

Can always adjust though. Switching the cyp with sust at beginning would make more sense to me if wanting to include Sust then deca could be switched with NPP and pin same days. Then switch to cyp where the sust is now.

Just a thought. It'll be successful regardless.

 

[Wunderpus]

I would certainly hope a mere 10 lbs would be the result after a year long high dose cycle.
I hope you do this safe and have fun
But you are very young relying heavily on gear to do the work
I learned a valuable lesson on my last cycle. Huge cycles arent what their made out to be.
Have to reside to the fact this will take time.
I dont want to upset anyone in here cuz its not my place. Do as you want. But this is kinda fuggin nutz

Truk, you couldn't possibly be more correct. I DO believe he has what it takes, or I wouldn't be so involved in helping him. However, I hate tracking weight to a degree. As a competitor, it matters for him... But, he will be fine, I really don't think this is as nuts as you do, but you and i do things differently.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I dont wanna tear any body down
He has some natural gifts but if one needs that much gear to reach precomp 240 then cut to 210 maybe we oughta approach this another way? Like the vast majority of us time is our friend. He isnt a 19 yr old phenom like Arnold or Priest. Those are natural gifts.

Nonetheless, im here to help and support in any way i can
Is he posting thru you? Where the hell is he?

 

[trying to get big]

This is gonna be interesting to see. Kill it bud

 

[GearGodess]

This is gonna be fun! I'm in for the ride! @Thenewera has huge potential and I have told him that many times over.

I'm all for unconventional cycles, sometimes having an open mind gives you opportunities you never knew you had!

Take care of him @Wunderpus (although I know you will!)

 

[Oregongearhead]

Upon further thinking about this , TNE runs a big chance of getting chronic acne from all these androgens . It could get real bad . I say this because he is obviously very prone to acne . He will be on too many hormones to know which ones cause it , or if its a combination of all of them .

TNE nobody wants to see a zit covered monster , and this could very well happen...Goodluck brother .

 

[Wunderpus]

I dont wanna tear any body down
He has some natural gifts but if one needs that much gear to reach precomp 240 then cut to 210 maybe we oughta approach this another way? Like the vast majority of us time is our friend. He isnt a 19 yr old phenom like Arnold or Priest. Those are natural gifts.

Nonetheless, im here to help and support in any way i can
Is he posting thru you? Where the hell is he?

I actually think he is genetically gifted at an above average level. Priest or Arny level? I don't really know to be honest. But, he has it man, he does. He's bright and motivated, with great genetics... Can we beat that? Now, the question is: does he need this much gear if training and diet are 100%? I am not sure. BUT I don't think he's willing to risk it with an upcoming show, you know? He, in my gatherings, wants every advantage he can have to kill this. I truly cannot blame him for being a bit liberal... He has a champion's mindset.... I want to watch closely with this diet and training though.

From what I know, I do believe the gear is en route, and he's pretty stuck on this cycle. I gave my input many times, and we sort of met halfway here (more or less).

We can critique cycles all we want "Too much!" "Too litte" "Not enough tren for that test!" But, you know what, this is what HE wants to do... And will do EVERYTHING I can to make him as successful, safe and happy throughout this process as I can.

I want to see him win, he wants this SO bad... I believe in him.

 

[Wunderpus]

Upon further thinking about this , TNE runs a big chance of getting chronic acne from all these androgens . It could get real bad . I say this because he is obviously very prone to acne . He will be on too many hormones to know which ones cause it , or if its a combination of all of them .

TNE nobody wants to see a zit covered monster , and this could very well happen...Goodluck brother .

This is an area I know NOTHING about as I'm not even remotely prone to acne. I wonder if that has any correlation as to why I don't lose my hair?