There's a first for everything

[Blood Sweat Chalk]

Well guys, I'm new here and I'm about to start my first cycle.
I'm about to be 25, I've been training for several years, I'm a competitive powerlifter. Currently 215(need to lean out a little, as I usually compete at 198) and best lifts of:
squat - 500
bench - 315
Deadlift - 585

Cycle is as follows:
Test e 600mg/week (2 doses of 300 a week) weeks 1-10
Dbol 30mg ED weeks 1-4
HCG 500ius/week (split up in 2 doses) weeks 1-10(or should I do like 3-12?)
Adex .25-.5 EOD weeks 1-10


PCT Nolva 40/40/20/20 weeks 13-16

Any tips are gladly welcomed

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I wouldn't just take the adex for the sake of it. I would hold off for a week or two see how things go watch for sides and add if necessary

 

[tileguy123]

I dont know about that Gr8white.. that dbol converts to e2 very easily in the addition of 600mg of T.. its better to control the e2 to some extent then to let it climb to higher digits. I would start the dex at .25 eod as youve mentioned draw bloods at week 6 and adjust as neccessary.

 

[stang4u2nv]

@tileguy123 i would not do that dosage of adex eod just because it is a very strong compound. It obliterates estrogen and can in a way cause more harm than good. I'm with trucker here, start the cycle and watch for any signs of gyno then administer as necessary. Usually 0.25-0.5 can drastically lower estro levels in 3-4 days. But everyone is different so.... Let us know op.

 

[tileguy123]

.25 eod isnt that much. could start at .25 e3d if your worryed about wiping it.. but to leave the e2 soaring isnt smart . neither is crashing it , thus bloodwork being the mediator.

 

[Blood Sweat Chalk]

I just figured at least with dbol it would be wise to try to keep my estrogen under control. Obviously with it being my first cycle I'm being overly cautious.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Right now to you estrogen is just a word. You haven't yet an idea if you are estro sensitive or not

 

[Blood Sweat Chalk]

Fair enough. So at least obtaining the adex was wise?

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Fair enough. So at least obtaining the adex was wise?

Absolutely

Hopefully its legit

Do it my way or tileguy way doesn't matter. If you do it my way you will learn about yourself tho

 

[Blood Sweat Chalk]

I really appreciate the advice gentlemen.

Any input on when to start HCG?

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Balls are over rated

 

[Blood Sweat Chalk]

Lol! Tell that to my wife.

 

[cdoubleu]

Just a heads up on the E2. It can sneak up in you in a hurry. I just started my first cycle of test e at the end of october, i did a anavar kickstart which may have been mixed with dbol. Like greatwhite i wanted to wait to see how my body reacted, plus separate start days on new drugs to see how body acted. Anyway i stArted adex 0.25 eod on 3 of test and day 6 of oral and for me personally e2 was off and running by week 2. Sensitive nipples and all that beginning of week two. Ended up uppin the dose and having to add nolva by mid week 3 already cause gyno symptoms were getting out of hand. Personally if i started over i would have upped that adex dose right away at the first signs. Instead i was waiting for adex to take over. That shit kinda comes from no where. But some dudes have no issues at all and low adex is good for them. But gyno and gyno symptoms arent the only negatives from high E2 sohaving your adex is smart. Sorry for the long ass post, just hope my experience helps prep u is all.

 

[stang4u2nv]

On hand at all times is perfect in my opinion, as soon as it comes in (symptoms) fill in with your adex. Im not overly sensitive to estro but by mid cycle i had some soreness on my nips but nothing greater. Hcg throughout your cycle and increase caloric intake post cycle to maintain muscle mass.

 

[Blood Sweat Chalk]

Thank you guys for all the info! I really appreciate it. I'll start logging as soon as I get started.

 

[Marcus]

Agree with tileguy here. I would start at a small dose of Adex, 0.25mg E3D is great, you don't want to play catch up. And just because you don't have gyno symptoms, does not mean your estrogen may not be high. There are other inherent risks of high estrogen besides gyno. I would get bloods after a few weeks to check estrogen levels and adjust your dosage accordingly