Thinking seriously on starting TRT but...

[dAllMighty]

Gentleman's ..

I'm a fresh 30 years guy and i remember my high on testosterone teenage years and i think from now on my test levels will only go down so i'm thinking about doing trt like a 200-250 mg/week see how i respond and maybe increase it further for some muscle gains (who can blame me xD) but i also want to keep my testies as much as normal as possible if i can say that. What should i run alongside that TRT dose, like a HCG 500UI/week? Can i do that longtime? I mean until i fucking die without being bothered by growing a crookedly second penis or a nut in my cheeks? Your precious knowledge would be much appreciated, thank you sirs

 

[BigDadd7]

You're doing a lot of "thinking" without doing any actual thinking. Start by getting your T levels checked.

 

[dAllMighty]

You're doing a lot of "thinking" without doing any actual thinking. Start by getting your T levels checked.

I will check them but i'll start TRT anyway bro

 

[Tbaz192]

200-250mg a week isn’t TRT.
That’s TRT +

Only if you’re a shit responder that would be TRT. 200-250mg you’d be over the natural levels.

I don’t respond well at all. 200mg puts me over 1000. Which isn’t TRT.
That’s cruising/small cycle territory
Anyone else who says that’s legit trt is lying.
On 200mg you could easily have blood pressure increase, increase in RBC, etc.
sides to deal with regardless the dose.

 

[Deezznutzz]

200-250mg a week isn’t TRT.
That’s TRT +

Only if you’re a shit responder that would be TRT. 200-250mg you’d be over the natural levels.

I don’t respond well at all. 200mg puts me over 1000. Which isn’t TRT.
That’s cruising/small cycle territory
Anyone else who says that’s legit trt is lying.
On 200mg you could easily have blood pressure increase, increase in RBC, etc.
sides to deal with regardless the dose.

200 is fine for some. Puts me at 900ish or 1100 with hcg. No sides. Been on that dose 5 years.

 

[dAllMighty]

I am confused , everywhere i look there are different opinions people saying they do 200-250 mg with no problem for years and cycles at even 500 mg/ week for muscle, and people that say that 150 /week can give you sides. Now i know every body is different and process things and deal with things different. My point is that i am at half of the lifespan of a normal human i know i won't live forever, and i want to better my few things that i saw that are related to high testosterone like , faster recuperating, bigger drive, better mood and so on all these are on very low for me.. and there is this... I always have interest in females psychologically but don't have the drive to actually do something about it. I just say meh and abstinence or wank here and there. I need to do something about these miserable things going on bros ya know how it is
Now it may be called TRT or just doing higher levels of testosterone, but you get the point now.
Health wise i was always very healthy no problems and just a surgery on my left nut from when i was kid from a twisted vein from what i remember

 

[Tbaz192]

@dAllMighty
Everyone is different.
All depends on how you respond.
And in doing so, start low dose. Get labs 4-5 weeks into that. You’ll be saturated and those numbers will tell you more.

Labs will tell you almost everything you need to know.

Higher the dose typically = more side effects for most. And the more you need to watch things.

Ive been on TRT since 21. I’m 27 now. I’ve been on TRT dose & blasting a gram of gear.
The test increased my blood pressure issues. So I’m on BP meds now. And have to up the dose when taking more gear.

If you’re natural 100% right now.
Start low.
I’d start with 150 a week. Get labs.
You’ll notice immediately once the test starts kicking in. Your libido will be like puberty all over again, may get better mood etc. That’ll subside eventually and you’ll normalize.
My buddy is doing that and he feels amazing.
Everyone is different. But it’s his first time on Test. He’s making great gains and overall well being is great.

My advice. Don’t be like a dumb kid and jump in the deep end and blast a shit ton. Start easy.
I’ve had more gains and better overall experience starting low dose and working up.

 

[Dunkirk]

You're doing a lot of "thinking" without doing any actual thinking. Start by getting your T levels checked.

I will check them but i'll start TRT anyway bro

You're kinda proving him right. Who cares what it's called, the name isn't going to effect shit. Order from a source you like, start at a dose and adjust based on bloodwork.

It's a lot of information here, you'll be chasing your tail forever with conflicting opinions.

1. Bloodwork
2. Get results and go with a dose 150-200
3. Bloodwork again
4. Adjust if needed
5. Add HCG if you want
6. Bloodwork

Call it TRT, call it TRT+, call it hybrid, call it enhanced... Shit call it natural. Nobody cares

 

[hexagonal]

Gentleman's ..

I'm a fresh 30 years guy and i remember my high on testosterone teenage years and i think from now on my test levels will only go down so i'm thinking about doing trt like a 200-250 mg/week see how i respond and maybe increase it further for some muscle gains (who can blame me xD) but i also want to keep my testies as much as normal as possible if i can say that. What should i run alongside that TRT dose, like a HCG 500UI/week? Can i do that longtime? I mean until i fucking die without being bothered by growing a crookedly second penis or a nut in my cheeks? Your precious knowledge would be much appreciated, thank you sirs

If you actually want TRT, go get your levels checked and see where you are. Maybe you're sitting at 800 total and going on actual TRT is just a waste. Maybe you're hypogonadal as fuck and will see a huge difference.

If you want to go on cycle then just say that and do the research you need to do.

 

[AJFlash]

I am confused , everywhere i look there are different opinions people saying they do 200-250 mg with no problem for years and cycles at even 500 mg/ week for muscle, and people that say that 150 /week can give you sides. Now i know every body is different and process things and deal with things different. My point is that i am at half of the lifespan of a normal human i know i won't live forever, and i want to better my few things that i saw that are related to high testosterone like , faster recuperating, bigger drive, better mood and so on all these are on very low for me.. and there is this... I always have interest in females psychologically but don't have the drive to actually do something about it. I just say meh and abstinence or wank here and there. I need to do something about these miserable things going on bros ya know how it is
Now it may be called TRT or just doing higher levels of testosterone, but you get the point now.
Health wise i was always very healthy no problems and just a surgery on my left nut from when i was kid from a twisted vein from what i remember

I was having some of the same issues. I got labs and my T was around 260. I started taking 200mg and my last lab I was at 1100 T. I’ve been on for about 2 years now. No symptoms to report. I do have a doctor I consult every 6 months and I do blood every 6 months. I suggest the same for everyone.

 

[glpfun]

I will check them but i'll start TRT anyway bro

If you’re not doing it for low t reasons it isn’t TRT just call it what it is, nobody here cares most people here had normal T levels before starting. You will get a wildly different response from people when the context is “I have low T and want to start TRT” vs “My t levels are normal and I want to take steroids”

The former people will encourage you to do so for health reasons, the latter people will want to see nutrition and routine dialed in first.

 

[Nidus]

If you’re not doing it for low t reasons it isn’t TRT just call it what it is, nobody here cares most people here had normal T levels before starting. You will get a wildly different response from people when the context is “I have low T and want to start TRT” vs “My t levels are normal and I want to take steroids”

The former people will encourage you to do so for health reasons, the latter people will want to see nutrition and routine dialed in first.

Posts like yours always remind me of me when going on TRT. I had 140ng of Test, basically nothing. 150mg of Test a week turned me into a different person. I didn't know i had depression and so much brain fog until i started injecting.

 

[Ángel Ruiz]

De caballero..

Soy un chico de 30 años y recuerdo mi época de adolescente con mucha testosterona. Creo que a partir de ahora mis niveles solo bajarán, así que estoy pensando en hacer TRT, unos 200-250 mg semanales, a ver cómo respondo y quizás aumentarlo para ganar músculo (¿quién me puede culpar? xD). Pero también quiero mantener mis testículos lo más normales posible, si se me permite decirlo. ¿Qué debería tomar junto con esa dosis de TRT, como 500 UI de HCG semanales? ¿Puedo hacerlo durante mucho tiempo? Es decir, hasta que me muera sin que me moleste que me crezca un segundo pene torcido o un testículo en las mejillas. Agradecería mucho su valiosa información, gracias.

jajajaja .
Con 30 años aún eres casi adolescente....solo cuida tu alimentación, ten tus niveles de grasa bajos, entrena duro, descansa, no fumes, no tomes drogas, y deja la trt para cuando sea realmente necesario

 

[malfeasance]

Gentleman's ..

I'm a fresh 30 years guy and i remember my high on testosterone teenage years and i think from now on my test levels will only go down so i'm thinking about doing trt like a 200-250 mg/week see how i respond and maybe increase it further for some muscle gains (who can blame me xD) but i also want to keep my testies as much as normal as possible if i can say that. What should i run alongside that TRT dose, like a HCG 500UI/week? Can i do that longtime? I mean until i fucking die without being bothered by growing a crookedly second penis or a nut in my cheeks? Your precious knowledge would be much appreciated, thank you sirs

I am confused , everywhere i look there are different opinions people saying they do 200-250 mg with no problem for years and cycles at even 500 mg/ week for muscle, and people that say that 150 /week can give you sides. Now i know every body is different and process things and deal with things different. My point is that i am at half of the lifespan of a normal human i know i won't live forever, and i want to better my few things that i saw that are related to high testosterone like , faster recuperating, bigger drive, better mood and so on all these are on very low for me.. and there is this... I always have interest in females psychologically but don't have the drive to actually do something about it. I just say meh and abstinence or wank here and there. I need to do something about these miserable things going on bros ya know how it is
Now it may be called TRT or just doing higher levels of testosterone, but you get the point now.
Health wise i was always very healthy no problems and just a surgery on my left nut from when i was kid from a twisted vein from what i remember

Since when is 30 half the lifespan of a normal human? Maybe if you live in some third world hell hole.

Test.

Even if you are going to start no matter what we say.

Test your natural levels.

Then you need more testing after you start to get your dosage dialed in.

Testing is important.

"people saying they do 200-250 mg with no problem for years" - so some dude on the internet says no problem for years, but the reality is that you have no earthly idea. He may have no earthly idea, either, what long term effects are. Did he post up his blood pressure, resting heart red, before and after blood tests to see how things have changed? Did he scan his arteries to see what sort of plaque build up has occurred? No? Then neither you nor he know what the long term consequences are.

You posted no information about your training, nutrition, or current health. You did not post anything about your current physical shape. I continued to gain strength naturally for years after your current age. Was it slow? Yes, but to claim you are somehow maxed out at 30 is ridiculous. My strongest natty performance was after 30.

Testing. If you are not willing to do it, you are just blind and shooting in the dark.

 

[ManK]

200/250 mg week is not a trt, is what bodybuilders name (error) TRT.
Trt is the minimum amount of testosterone that put your levels in the normal reference range.
Out from reference range is doping and not trt.
200 mg week are prescribed only for that few person that are named HIGH metabolizers that need more testosterone to reach acceptable leves.
Personally with 70, JUST 70 mg weeks i am always at 700 / 800 ng./dl.
The normal reference range is 300-900 ng dl.
All the other bullshit is just gym talk.
When i made a BRIDGE with 250 mg week my levels was at 1980 ng/dl......

There is a HUGE difference from SCIENCE TRT and GYM BRO TRT.

 

[ManK]

I was having some of the same issues. I got labs and my T was around 260. I started taking 200mg and my last lab I was at 1100 T. I’ve been on for about 2 years now. No symptoms to report. I do have a doctor I consult every 6 months and I do blood every 6 months. I suggest the same for everyone.

i make blood test eery 2 months....