THIS IS MY THIRD CYCLE @@@@ NEED GOOD ADVICE!!!! @@@@ THANKS

[Pichac]

Hi guys I need your advice and help with my third cycle....I did before 2 cycles...First was just test cyp 500mg week 10 weeks + pct 4weeks and 3moths off second was test cyp 600mg 10 weeks deca 400mg 8 weeks + pct 4 weeks but now I'm 5 moths off......also I didnt like second cycle because I think it was to much for my body..... I got lots of spots and water retention also in my 2 cycle I start in 6 week using ai-arimidex 0.5 because my guy did have any when I need that and he told me I don't really need ai...but now I know he was telling me bulshit....So would like to cut fat and gain more muscle.

My diet was on both cycles for bulk....
1. 100g porridge + 100gfruits + 2 scoops of whey protein 2. rice/pasta 100g + 200g meat/fish + veggies + 5g olive oil 3. rice/pasta 100g + 200g meat/fish + veggies + 5g olive oil 4. rice/pasta 80g + 200g meat/fish + veggies + 5g olive oil 5. rice/pasta 80 + 200g/ meat/fish + veggies + 5g olive oil or most oft he time 5th meal was cheat meal 6. 2 scoops of whey protein + 250 greek yogurt or 250g fish

Now I m thinking to try Ketogenic diet for my third cycle...

My stats is:
23 years
181cm
90kg
Bodyfat around 15-20% I think Im not realy sure about it
week 1-12 - test cyp 500mg E3D week
week 1-8 - tren ace 75mg EOD week
week 7-12 - winstrol oral 50mg EOD week
week 7-11 - t3 50mcg 7week 25mcg...8week 50mcg...
9week 75mcg...10week 50mcg...11week 25mcg

AI - arimidex 0.5mg EOD 1-12week

PCT - week 14-18
nolvadex - 40/40/20/20
clomid - 100/100/50/50

First photo its before cycle 81kg second is after first cycle 90kg third photo is end of the second cycle 100kg and last photo 89-90kg now 5moths off.

Thanks guys for all advice and sorry for my english.

 

[Dw725]

The cycle you proposed is a pretty heavy cycle. I assume your ulitmate goal is to cut and drop some fat. You have a good foundation at your height and weight. I don't think you need as many drugs as youre proposing. You could come a long way with just test and tren and leave the orals out all together. Being that youve only ran test and deca so far, why add three new compounds in this cycle? Tren alone will probably be a big adjustment for you. The biggest factor with cutting is diet anyways.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

you look good man..just keep chipping away at it you're young. I agree with DW you can cut on less drugs.

WTF is porridge?
your diet looks good though

 

[Dw725]

you look good man..just keep chipping away at it you're young. I agree with DW you can cut on less drugs.

WTF is porridge?
your diet looks good though

You know, porridge, like what Goldilocks took from the bears man

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

You know, porridge, like what Goldilocks took from the bears man

that lil bitch...thinks she can just try every bear's porridge.

seriously though, is it like oatmeal? I googled it and it looks like death warmed over, all I can imagine is @gr8whitetrukker dressed like Goldielocks and testing the the temps by stickin his tongue in it. "This porridge is juust right!"

 

[Pichac]

that lil bitch...thinks she can just try every bear's porridge.

seriously though, is it like oatmeal? I googled it and it looks like death warmed over, all I can imagine is @gr8whitetrukker dressed like Goldielocks and testing the the temps by stickin his tongue in it. "This porridge is juust right!"

Yea man it is oatmeal sorry for my English but here in ireland they call it porridge or something like that..

 

[Pichac]

The cycle you proposed is a pretty heavy cycle. I assume your ulitmate goal is to cut and drop some fat. You have a good foundation at your height and weight. I don't think you need as many drugs as youre proposing. You could come a long way with just test and tren and leave the orals out all together. Being that youve only ran test and deca so far, why add three new compounds in this cycle? Tren alone will probably be a big adjustment for you. The biggest factor with cutting is diet anyways.

Thanks man so what do u think about ketogenic diet should I do this or just keep it with my diet

 

[Pichac]

you look good man..just keep chipping away at it you're young. I agree with DW you can cut on less drugs.

WTF is porridge?
your diet looks good though

It's oatmeal man just in ireland they call it porridge

 

[dtto]

seriously though, is it like oatmeal? I googled it and it looks like death warmed over,

LOL

 

[Dw725]

Thanks man so what do u think about ketogenic diet should I do this or just keep it with my diet

Keto works if that's what u like. Cutting is like skinning a cat, there's more than one way to do it.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

steak n eggs diet
fuck the po-rridge comin straight from the underground

 

[Eman45]

If you set on this cycle I would bump the tren to wk4-12 since test e takes time to build. And if you feel you need to run the winny do it k 9-13 then start pct after winny. But drop the t3. N one thing I wanna say is if your cutting your results will depend on your diet and gym routine more than the gear being used. One more thing I wouldn't start ai from wk 1. I prob wouldn't use it at all unless your prone to estro side that you have notice from your other cycles. I keep it on hand use if needed incaee of gyno. If your trying to gain n have to low estro that can work against you. Good luck.

 

[Dw725]

If you set on this cycle I would bump the tren to wk4-12 since test e takes time to build. And if you feel you need to run the winny do it k 9-13 then start pct after winny. But drop the t3. N one thing I wanna say is if your cutting your results will depend on your diet and gym routine more than the gear being used. One more thing I wouldn't start ai from wk 1. I prob wouldn't use it at all unless your prone to estro side that you have notice from your other cycles. I keep it on hand use if needed incaee of gyno. If your trying to gain n have to low estro that can work against you. Good luck.

An ai isn't for fighting gyno it's for preventing it. Keep estro in check from the start. @500mg per week he will likely need estrogen control, and when the tren is added it is better to already have a handle on estrogen.

 

[Eman45]

Just speaking from my experience it fkd me up when I ran aromasin. I was running 750 mg test n 500 mg deca my estro n prolactin from caber when depleted practically. Was doin 25 mg every other day n .5mg of caber twice a week. Just saying unless if your sensitive I wouldn't use it until blood work. Then you know for sure.

 

[Eman45]

Never ran ai before all this never had issues with gyno water retention bp. Only thing I ever had was acne so thinking it was from estro levels being high I used ai depleted my estro n couldn't have an erection or maintain one for some time even if I took viagra.

 

[Dw725]

Just speaking from my experience it fkd me up when I ran aromasin. I was running 750 mg test n 500 mg deca my estro n prolactin from caber when depleted practically. Was doin 25 mg every other day n .5mg of caber twice a week. Just saying unless if your sensitive I wouldn't use it until blood work. Then you know for sure.

Probably BC you ran twice what most recommend starting your AI and caber dose at.

 

[Eman45]

Could be also going into this cycle I feel my gains in the beginning were slow to come due to my estro being so low. So you think that's likely to happen? I believe I have read that if your estro is really low it can effect gains??

 

[Dw725]

Could be also going into this cycle I feel my gains in the beginning were slow to come due to my estro being so low. So you think that's likely to happen? I believe I have read that if your estro is really low it can effect gains??

It's possible. Bloodwork is the best way to KNOW estrogen is too high or too low. Any other self diagnosis leaves too much to chance.

 

[Dr JIM]

Hi guys I need your advice and help with my third cycle....I did before 2 cycles...First was just test cyp 500mg week 10 weeks + pct 4weeks and 3moths off second was test cyp 600mg 10 weeks deca 400mg 8 weeks + pct 4 weeks but now I'm 5 moths off......also I didnt like second cycle because I think it was to much for my body..... I got lots of spots and water retention also in my 2 cycle I start in 6 week using ai-arimidex 0.5 because my guy did have any when I need that and he told me I don't really need ai...but now I know he was telling me bulshit....So would like to cut fat and gain more muscle.

My diet was on both cycles for bulk....
1. 100g porridge + 100gfruits + 2 scoops of whey protein 2. rice/pasta 100g + 200g meat/fish + veggies + 5g olive oil 3. rice/pasta 100g + 200g meat/fish + veggies + 5g olive oil 4. rice/pasta 80g + 200g meat/fish + veggies + 5g olive oil 5. rice/pasta 80 + 200g/ meat/fish + veggies + 5g olive oil or most oft he time 5th meal was cheat meal 6. 2 scoops of whey protein + 250 greek yogurt or 250g fish

Now I m thinking to try Ketogenic diet for my third cycle...

My stats is:
23 years
181cm
90kg
Bodyfat around 15-20% I think Im not realy sure about it
week 1-12 - test cyp 500mg E3D week
week 1-8 - tren ace 75mg EOD week
week 7-12 - winstrol oral 50mg EOD week
week 7-11 - t3 50mcg 7week 25mcg...8week 50mcg...
9week 75mcg...10week 50mcg...11week 25mcg

AI - arimidex 0.5mg EOD 1-12week

PCT - week 14-18
nolvadex - 40/40/20/20
clomid - 100/100/50/50

First photo its before cycle 81kg second is after first cycle 90kg third photo is end of the second cycle 100kg and last photo 89-90kg now 5moths off.

Thanks guys for all advice and sorry for my english.

Those PICS demonstrate why 22 year OLDS shouldn't cycle! Esp a THREE drug stack COL what a pathetic waste of AAS

 

[c_natty]

Cut natty and lean bulk w drugs if you HAVE TO cycle. Otherwise utilize your hopefully high natty test. You're 23 dude, come on.