time between cycles

ddmartin

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I know that I will get flammed for this but how long after I finished a var only cycle
that ran for 8 weeks can I start a next cycle
Thanks
 
I never get off cycles now. I don't see the point unless I get health problems from it. Just a lot of Milk thistle and Clomid.
 
It's a real personal thing. As spectre said he doesn't come of cause he doesn't have a problem with it. If you are a competitve athlete and you get paid to perform, I could see staying on a long time. If you have health probs, come off for sure. I know guys who just do it to look good, but are serious lifters and stay on about 16-24 weeks out of the year without any problems.

I'm interested in strength and I find I can still gain it naturally so I don't go on more than 2-3x per year and then only on short cycles.

One way to gauge when to go back on is when you plateau. Nothing breaks a plateau like test.
Having said that, you just did an 8 week oral cycle. If you really wanted to start right away why not do some injectables with no orals. Test with eq or primo is always good.
 
yeah that is what I wanted to do next test and primo, The var was my first cycle and I wanted to see how I respond to aas. So it would be okay to start in like 2 weeks. btw how does test 500 mg a week and 400mg primo a week for 12 weeks look for novice?
Thanks
 
Test is a good steroid for novices. The primo is a waste of money IMO. The test over powers it and you probably wont notice any extra benefits. Maybe taper off with the primo + clomid to try and keep more of the muscle you gain off the test.
 
ddmartin said:
I know that I will get flammed for this but how long after I finished a var only cycle
that ran for 8 weeks can I start a next cycle
Thanks
usually time on is time off, I only stay off for 4 weeks and then right back I go cycles last about 12 16 weeks, depends how much cash i can spend for that cycle
 
ddmartin said:
yeah that is what I wanted to do next test and primo, The var was my first cycle and I wanted to see how I respond to aas. So it would be okay to start in like 2 weeks. btw how does test 500 mg a week and 400mg primo a week for 12 weeks look for novice?
Thanks

You can kid your self and believe you havent caused a degree of HPTA suppression and go right back on. The best way is to get some blood work. I know most will not do this. You should take plenty of time off and allow for recovery of natural test production, or risk permanent suppression. At least as long as you were on is standard advice seen on the boards. In reality it takes much longer that most are willing to accept or believe. If you get blood work done for your natural test levels, you will see it takes many months and sometimes years to get back to normal. Yes even with a well constructed PCT. Yes, PCT isn't a sure thing or a cure for HPTA suppression. I get flamed on occasion for saying this, however no one has ever been able to prove me wrong with blood results.

So where does this leave the average steroid user who isn't a pro and is just trying to get to some goal faster. Well that is the difficult question to answer. Most accept this as a cost of visiting the dark side, while others will pretend nothing will ever happen to them. I suppose there is a small minority who will recover in world record time, however I wouldn't count myself as one of these luck few. Sorry if this turned into a rant, but reality can suck sometimes. NDK
 
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