Tough even to clean bulk while doing 30,000 steps per day on test/primo.

My guess is that if I'm only taking in 3000 calories and burning 1200 per day just walking I should be getting shredded and I'm not.
Your body will adapt to your daily expenditures of energy if it's consistent enough.. I don't know if I articulated that well, but I can relate to what you're saying.

I'm a Sous Chef at a restaurant and generally walk between 12-30,000 steps at work depending on the time if year/business volume. If your heart rate isn't significantly increased from it's resting state, the everyday consistent walking will appear to have a vastly diminished effect. I would theorize that our metabolism adjusts a d adapt to this "normal/routine" behavior to maintain more of a homeostasis.

As others have said, you still need to eat more to gain the size...you can't build a house without lumber(technically i know you can lol), and the calories/protein are your lumber.

When it comes to getting "ripped", you'll simply have to do more targeted cardio. Elevated heart rare, etc. You are essentially cancelling out your intake with your expenditure nearly perfectly if you're seeing absolutely no weight/water retention and/or body composition changes. If you were eating a maintenance diet, you quite possibly would lose bf over a long duration.

I would say to target 4,000 calories.
Target foods as well that have excellent micronutrients as well as macro. Eggs, Greek yogurt, basmati rice, etc... keep your carbs high! You absolutely need the calories, energy, and glycogen retention from carbs. Carbs usually consist of around 60% of my calories on a bulk depending on my goals and training style.

Try 6 meals at 600cals if you can't get to 4000. And like someone else stated, you are possibly compromising your health by using these anabolics, don't let lack of eating or fear of fat gain/fast food be the reason that you don't get optimal results.

If you need to,get a lil' dirty to get to 4000 cals lol. I'm not saying eat shit everyday but sometimes a massive eating day or simply a massive fast food meal can help revitalize/shocked that metabolism.
 
Someone also pointed out how different anabolic and dosages will affect weight/appearance...100% correct.
Unfortunately, more people correct/change their anabolics and dosages over simply changing their diet...when 9.9/10 diet is the issue. (Not in reference to other poster)
 
Someone also pointed out how different anabolic and dosages will affect weight/appearance...100% correct.
Unfortunately, more people correct/change their anabolics and dosages over simply changing their diet...when 9.9/10 diet is the issue. (Not in reference to other poster)
Very good observation that I did not point out.
 
No that's a fair point. Not really a dick. I'm going to map out my calories... I'm not a competitive physique person. I log everything at the gym though. I basically eat the same things every day or mostly the same.

yesterday I ate this... I'll come back w kcal breakdowns and see where I am

breakfast - 1 egg + 1/2 cup whites, 2 servings of raisin bran crunch with whole milk, serving of pineapple

30g of protein whey clear isolate during my workout

lunch - 12 ounce sirloin with fries and bernaise sauce for lunch

dinner - 8 ounces of chicken with 2 yellow potatoes/carrots/1 serving of acini di pepe in a soup, 3 chocolate chip cookies and 2 miller high life beers


today so far

breakfast - 1 egg + 1/2 cup whites, 2 servings of frosted mini wheats with whole milk, serving of blackberries

old school vanilla metrx in almond milk

lunch - steak bowl w/nearly everything from chipotle

30g whey clear isolate during my workout

dinner - going out to a Georgian restaurant so will probably eat a ton


It's everyday like this... not dirty, not clean. Keep in mind I'm only 197 pounds at 5'8

My strength has exploded but again I don't know where it is all going bc I'm not getting much leaner and the scale isn't going up...
Didnt read past this. You eat like a bitch. What the fuck is wrong with you?
 
Calories burned on 20,000 steps based off weight


(180lbs = 400 cals)
That article lists the possible amount of calories burned in 1 hour of walking at 3mph. It does not consider any variables outside of pace and weight...and would be inaccurate to a decent degree when factoring in muscle mass, metabolism, among a myriad of other variables, etc.

A person typically burns around 100 cals per mile(again that varies based on the individual). The OP wasn't far off, scientifically, how much you would burn doing that activity in a vacuum. Again, your body will try to adapt to NEAT (non exercise activity thermogenesis)activities and the results won't directly correlate.
 
I feel like OP is overcomplicatig the shit out of things. Like... what do you expect to gain in a month of "clean" bulking, which is short for "I care too much about my abs, so I'd rather waste a cycle than put on mass i can clean up later", other than the water/mineral/glycogen ritention that normal aas gene expression would cause.
Cycle longer, lower doses if you want slow, steady gains.
Short "heavy" cycle: eat your face off, as clean as possible while picking calorie dense foods. You can't expect radical changes in lbm in 4 fucking weeks, unless you eat in a crazy surplus or are on high doses of potent anabolics (read drol, sdrol, 19-nors), all that you have gained in your "ramp up" phase, was probably already there and it was simply a matter of getting back to your past muscular glory.
Cycle longer, eat more, no rocket science here. Granted, my perspective is the opposite, I gain mass piss easy and have trouble shedding pounds (I am also lazy af on the cardio to be fair), but still... Don't worry and eat away.
 
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