Transdermal Test Base BLOODS!!!

[sinewave3]

That would make it 1mg test prop solution. Don't get it that's really weak.
I was thinking of 20g test powder 200ml dmso. That would make it 200mg in the solution.

Most concentrations for transdermals seem to top out around 100mg/ml, that’s the highest I have gone.

Let us know how it goes at 200, would be awesome if it holds and actually absorbs that high and does not crash.

 

[Megadick3000]

You mentioned you showered twice a day, I dislike DMSO for its odor. I understand the whole transdermal thing, but I keep asking myself, why?

Odor? My DMSO has no odor and doesnt cause a change in breath.

My DMSO is 99.8%+ pure. Truly pure DMSO shouldnt have any odor or cause bad breath from what i understand.

OP, have you tried Phlojel Ultra? Look into it. I played with both DMSO transdermal compounding and Phlojel transdermal compounding.

Also, you can get some hydroxypropyl-betacyclodextrin and turn the test base into a water soluble injectable (not a suspension). HPBCD will turn a hydrophobic molecule into a hydrophilic molecule, using HPBCD i was able to make test base dissolve into sterilized water suitable for injection via subcutaneous, intramuscular, and even intravaneous administration routes.

Edit: also you can use HPBCD to turn test base into a sublingual drop you can put under your tongue. My experiments seemed to suggest an absorption rate limitation via gingival/buccal/sublingual administration of HPBCD encapsulated testosterone base of around 20-30mg per administration though.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Odor? My DMSO has no odor and doesnt cause a change in breath.

My DMSO is 99.8%+ pure. Truly pure DMSO shouldnt have any odor or cause bad breath from what i understand.

OP, have you tried Phlojel Ultra? Look into it. I played with both DMSO transdermal compounding and Phlojel transdermal compounding.

Also, you can get some hydroxypropyl-betacyclodextrin and turn the test base into a water soluble injectable (not a suspension). HPBCD will turn a hydrophobic molecule into a hydrophilic molecule, using HPBCD i was able to make test base dissolve into sterilized water suitable for injection via subcutaneous, intramuscular, and even intravaneous administration routes.

Edit: also you can use HPBCD to turn test base into a sublingual drop you can put under your tongue. My experiments seemed to suggest an absorption rate limitation via gingival/buccal/sublingual administration of HPBCD encapsulated testosterone base of around 20-30mg per administration though.

Yes I've known Phlojel for a while, never tried it.
It would require mixing with more test than when using DMSO, as it will yield probably only 30% absorption rate.
Do you have any experience with Phlojel?
Any experience with dissolving testosterone proprionate?

 

[sinewave3]

Other forums reported increased absorption of commercial carriers (like phlogel, androgel, salvo, etc) by pre treating the application site with DMSO, applying commercial carrier, then moisturizer once dry. I have found this effective personally (based on feels only) but have not tried pure dmso solo yet.

 

[Megadick3000]

Yes I've known Phlojel for a while, never tried it.
It would require mixing with more test than when using DMSO, as it will yield probably only 30% absorption rate.
Do you have any experience with Phlojel?
Any experience with dissolving testosterone proprionate?

No experience compounding test prop.
I have used lots of phlojel transdermal test base though.

Was it more effective than my pure DMSO test base? I honestly cant say. At one point i was applying the phlojel test, the dmso test, and taking sublingual test in a cyclodextrin all in the same day.

I also cyclodextrin encapped test base then made that into a transdermal with dmso too.

I also found if i dissolved test base into PEG400 then added that to dmso it created some white creamy stuff upon contact with the dmso if memory serves me correct. This made for an easy to apply product, as the test plus dmso is like water so its not so easy to apply but if you put the T into peg400 then add to dmso the peg400 forms a white custardy thing.

Phlojel is nice to apply.

The thing is inever ran bloods during these experiments so i really dont know what was more effective in any definitive manner.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

No experience compounding test prop.
I have used lots of phlojel transdermal test base though.

Was it more effective than my pure DMSO test base? I honestly cant say. At one point i was applying the phlojel test, the dmso test, and taking sublingual test in a cyclodextrin all in the same day.

I also cyclodextrin encapped test base then made that into a transdermal with dmso too.

I also found if i dissolved test base into PEG400 then added that to dmso it created some white creamy stuff upon contact with the dmso if memory serves me correct. This made for an easy to apply product, as the test plus dmso is like water so its not so easy to apply but if you put the T into peg400 then add to dmso the peg400 forms a white custardy thing.

Phlojel is nice to apply.

The thing is inever ran bloods during these experiments so i really dont know what was more effective in any definitive manner.

You don't need to run bloods, I can already tell you that for a given testosterone concentration, you'll never in a million years reach the same levels as DMSO with Phlojel.

It's not even remotely comparable. With DMSO you have 99.9% absorption of what's mixed with it.

With PJ probably 30% at best.
Two different worlds.

 

[Megadick3000]

You don't need to run bloods, I can already tell you that for a given testosterone concentration, you'll never in a million years reach the same levels as DMSO with Phlojel.

It's not even remotely comparable. With DMSO you have 99.9% absorption of what's mixed with it.

With PJ probably 30% at best.
Two different worlds.

Bro do you have any studies regarding dmso and how much absorption really happens? Im talking clinical research.

I find it hard to believe any transdermal will absorb 99.9%, and theres so many factors involved like heat, humidity, body hair, exfoliation of dead skin, application sites, etc. I doubt its as cut and dry as 99.9% but id love to see some clinical studies on the subject.

 

[Gixjon22]

Got some td test and curious on the effects and whatnot. Currently on 500mg test c. Td test is 40mg/ml. Its pretty watery and smells but doesnt stay smelly or anything. Applied less than a ml since i was trying to figuire out the best way to apply and lost prob 30% of the ml i drew. 10 min after i felt fine. Calm. Mild workout in my garage. Nothing major. Mind muscle connect seemed strong. Pumps meh but there. Felt tired a few hours later and had almost test flu like symptoms. Felt like i was going to be sick. Not nautious sick but like youre coming down with a cold. Now my sinuses are actiing up. Mildly. Started last night.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Got some td test and curious on the effects and whatnot. Currently on 500mg test c. Td test is 40mg/ml. Its pretty watery and smells but doesnt stay smelly or anything. Applied less than a ml since i was trying to figuire out the best way to apply and lost prob 30% of the ml i drew. 10 min after i felt fine. Calm. Mild workout in my garage. Nothing major. Mind muscle connect seemed strong. Pumps meh but there. Felt tired a few hours later and had almost test flu like symptoms. Felt like i was going to be sick. Not nautious sick but like youre coming down with a cold. Now my sinuses are actiing up. Mildly. Started last night.

What do you mean you lost 30% of that ml? Is it liquid? Get a cream.
Did you home make it or bought it?