Transgender Doses

[malfeasance]

I just thought the chart in this link might be of interest. Note the 20mg per week initial low dose, 50 mg typical, and 00mg maximum.

Overview of masculinizing hormone therapy | Gender Affirming Health Program

PENDING REVISION 2024 Introduction The goal of masculinizing hormone therapy is the development of male secondary sex characteristics, and suppression/minimization of female secondary sex characteristics. General effects include the development of facial hair, virilizing changes in voice, a...

transcare.ucsf.edu

 

[Alert_Custard]

I've got a feeling that some female competitors take doses higher than those.
Or other anabolics in doses equivalent to higher than those test levels (adjusted by the anabolic/androgenic ratio assuming that is accurate).
I have no data though, so my comment brings no value as usual.

 

[readalot]

00mg

Missed the 1. That is 100.

Good thread. There's a great reason for these dosing strategies. Why? Because 50 to 100 mg/week of Test C/Test E is replacement dose for TRT in men.

 

[readalot]

Vastly overpriced product but doses available tell the story.

DailyMed - XYOSTED- testosterone enanthate injection

dailymed.nlm.nih.gov

Of course after 7 years on androgens I now run 200 mg/week for "TRT"+body dysmorphia. Or was that initially body dysmorphia guised as needing TRT? Oh well.

FDA should definitely allow marketing of androgens as on label for BD.

 

[Benf15harp]

Really boosts my confidence knowing ladyboys take more than I do per week.

 

[readalot]

I'd love to see the thought process of the down vote. Truly curious.

 

[malfeasance]

I've got a feeling that some female competitors take doses higher than those.

And the results show up in their voices, faces, and bodies.

 

[malfeasance]

Good thread. There's a great reason for these dosing strategies. Why? Because 50 to 100 mg/week of Test C/Test E is replacement dose for TRT in men.

Yeah, I thought about posting it in the men's section, but, hey, it works here, too.

I was mostly shocked about the 20mg initial low dose. It looks like some doctors start transitions off rather conservatively.

I do not know why I assumed that doctors would just tell them to inject 200-250 mg a week until sufficiently hairy and gross, then maintain.

 

[malfeasance]

And 20mg here is posted as not too far off female hormone treatment?

 

[Excel.exe]

Testosterone undecanoate has been associated with rare cases of pulmonary oil microembolism and anaphylaxis.

i did not know that. does anyone know if its the same for deca as well?

 

[readalot]

I do not know why I assumed that doctors would just tell them to inject 200-250 mg a week until sufficiently hairy and gross

Blood pressure, water bloat, edema, RAAS activation. Would be violating ethics of medical treatment...do no harm.

 

[readalot]

And 20mg here is posted as not too far off female hormone treatment?

2-5 mg/week Test ester equivalent. 10 pushing it for female HRT.

 

[malfeasance]

2-5 mg/week Test ester equivalent. 10 pushing it for female HRT.

Read the threads in this forum.

 

[readalot]

Read the threads in this forum.

No doubt. Eye opening.

 

[zpped]

Blood pressure, water bloat, edema, RAAS activation. Would be violating ethics of medical treatment...do no harm.

And my "doctor" started me at 200mg/week. I smiled and nodded and have only been taking 100mg/week.

 

[readalot]

And my "doctor" started me at 200mg/week. I smiled and nodded and have only been taking 100mg/week.

You are smart. If you decide to take it higher ramp it in chunks especially if you are older. Of course some don't seem to be phased by the big jumps.

I can't imagine if I had started at 200 but that was my physiology. I have tried to become less judgemental. Everyone has to find out for themselves.

 

[woof]

I was mostly shocked about the 20mg initial low dose. It looks like some doctors start transitions off rather conservatively.

I do not know why I assumed that doctors would just tell them to inject 200-250 mg a week until sufficiently hairy and gross, then maintain.

The low dose is for those who feel they're in between genders and want to get minimal masculinizing effects from the testosterone. This is new territory in gender affirming care. When I started (decades ago) this was unheard of. The endo told me inject 100mg/week then get a blood level after a few months. Even with that much it was a good long while before I noticed any real masculinizing and my levels were never very high. I don't see what 20mg is going to do in terms of masculinization. Maybe a placebo effect at best.

 

[iris]

Read the threads in this forum.

And 20mg here is posted as not too far off female hormone treatment?

Exactly.
There was a post, somewhere, and the guy saying his wife/gf was taking 50mg x week, iirc, for hrt.
To me, that is insane.
I was talking to someone about this and how a big industry revolving around pushing testosterone to women has evolved (for hrt, not transitioning or competing).
Maybe it is because I am from Europe and things here are a bit more conservative.
One can also say not as advanced. Fair enough.

But in the States some clinics/practitioners have a rather gung-ho approach for female hrt that sometimes leaves me aghast.
Things I read on this forum actually made me so anxious I had to refrain from reading the content, further.

 

[readalot]

I don't see what 20mg is going to do in terms of masculinization. Maybe a placebo effect at best.

Good example thread if interested.

Post in thread 'Moving from testosterone pellets to inections?'

Dec 18, 2024

Update on where things are now:

- 11.64mg/wk Testosterone Propionate, split in to every day doses. I use an injector pen and inject IM every AM before heading to the gym. The odd number is a result of dosing according to the Jano results of the vial I’m using and a bit of math to get an every day dose.
- 2 iu HGH every morning before I head to the gym
- 4mg Tirz once a week.
- .037mg Estradiol transdermal patch, 2x/wk - prescribed via Midi online
- 100mg progesterone, oral every day, PM before bed - prescribed via Midi online

Clean diet, tracking calories...

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[musclesiege]

Exactly.
There was a post, somewhere, and the guy saying his wife/gf was taking 50mg x week, iirc, for hrt.
To me, that is insane.
I was talking to someone about this and how a big industry revolving around pushing testosterone to women has evolved (for hrt, not transitioning or competing).
Maybe it is because I am from Europe and things here are a bit more conservative.
One can also say not as advanced. Fair enough.

But in the States some clinics/practitioners have a rather gung-ho approach for female hrt that sometimes leaves me aghast.
Things I read on this forum actually made me so anxious I had to refrain from reading the content, further.

Hrt and Trt definitely more prevalent in the US vs EU, hrt especially. Female BB definitely take more than 200mg depending on which class of competition. Bikini many take anavar and low dose test 10-20mg. The higher the weight class the more gear. I have a friend who is an ifbb pro and she ups her doses of her stack to push the mg higher each cycle until she sees virility then pulls back. She’s currently in a tough spot because to place higher than 5th in her level she needs to take more and get bigger but then virility is unavoidable so she decided to just go longer bulks, cut more than she was and compete fewer times because she’s not willing to make that trade off.