Tren and Deca

I've done 300 tren with 100 deca and no issues. However 200 tren with 400 deca was too much prolactin/progesterone for me. Both cases were without caber or p5p.

I like winstrol with tren better than masteron. Much better results. It is more toxic though.
What about it do you like better ? Wondering because I’m considering either or both of these. I’m questioning weather I need any of them if I drop testosterone all together to lower my e2 that way and just keep the Deca and Tren together for the last 4 weeks of my cutting phase.
 
What about it do you like better ? Wondering because I’m considering either or both of these. I’m questioning weather I need any of them if I drop testosterone all together to lower my e2 that way and just keep the Deca and Tren together for the last 4 weeks of my cutting phase.
My last cycle was 350/600/150 test/NPP/tren e and I loved it, tons of strength leaned out quite a bit and had the joint support of nandrolone. I also believe that nandrolone strength building capabilities are under rated and overshadowed by tren. Nandrolone is really good at building strength too.

I also ran 2 IU of GH daily, and supppsedly tren increases IGF sensitivity.

My next cycle coming up is going to be 400/800/175 test/deca/tren a (I’m adding the tren towards the end, hence the short ester) and I’m going to continue running 2 IU GH daily too.
 
Apparenlty, it is parrying these drugs with test that cause the problems...

I ran 1gram of deca alone and I had zero sides, including no deca dick...


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/PEDsR/comments/a754b0/tren_deca_does_not_raise_prolactin/

It's so highly individual with stuff like that, the only real way to figure it out for yourself is to try it. I had a phenomenal time on test/npp/tren. No libido or dick issues. A little bit of mood issues, but that was solved with the inositol. Luckily I don't really get prolactin issues as the P5P works great for me. The only real issue I had was E2 sides and I think a lot of that was caused by my low dose GH.
 
Apparenlty, it is parrying these drugs with test that cause the problems...

I ran 1gram of deca alone and I had zero sides, including no deca dick...


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/PEDsR/comments/a754b0/tren_deca_does_not_raise_prolactin/

I had high prolactin initially when I added in nandrolone to the tren I was already using on and off through out my offseason. I had already been dosing up on p5p for months prior in anticipation for this.

I was shocked when I saw how far out of the reference range I was for prolactin because I had absolutely no symptoms what so ever. I actually was prob as settled in from a libido/function standpoint as Iever. Everything was great. Was like just under 30 for prolactin. Range (5-15).

Since the b6 wasn’t cutting it, I flatlined my prolactin with only three doses of cabergoline 0.5mg taken 4 days apart each dose. Rechecked and it was back down to the bottom of the range.

I rechecked again since and haven’t used any more caber other than those 3 doses I took and since the initial increase and then knocking it back down; it has not returned and is staying at the bottom of the ref range just taking 150mg p5p, mixed tocotrinols vitamin e. And I’ve actually gone from 600 test/700 Deca/350 tren a to now I’m on 140Test/1050 Deca, 420mg tren A per week.

My e2 was around 40-50 at this time.
 
My last cycle was 350/600/150 test/NPP/tren e and I loved it, tons of strength leaned out quite a bit and had the joint support of nandrolone. I also believe that nandrolone strength building capabilities are under rated and overshadowed by tren. Nandrolone is really good at building strength too.

I also ran 2 IU of GH daily, and supppsedly tren increases IGF sensitivity.

My next cycle coming up is going to be 400/800/175 test/deca/tren a (I’m adding the tren towards the end, hence the short ester) and I’m going to continue running 2 IU GH daily too.
I haven’t been able to notice the nandrolone strength because I added it in so soon to my protocol after starting trt, I also never touch any weight below 10 reps. I need a spotter and only use dumbells alone lol. Hard to get ‘em in position.

Also tren absolutely increases Igf sensitivity. People who use igf1lr3 are known to be able to use it for 6-8 weeks straight without losing the insane pumps when using tren. Otherwise I hear guys lose sensitivity after 2-3 weeks of 100mcg daily
 
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