Tren and increased RHR: mechanism?

[y777]

Hi folks

Has anyone found what is the primary mechanism of how /why tren specifically raises resting heart rate?

All else being equal , a few of weeks into tren my RHR is +20 or +30. No other sides. 150 mg weekly.

On Telmisartan and BP is unchanged , sleep is fine. No sweats.

I initially thought it’s related to extra dopamine or adrenaline but I don’t get the same response from other drugs that boost adrenaline or dopamine like high doses of primo or mast or even winstrol. Even on a 600mg weekly deca cycle i don’t get this.

This has happened every time I’ve run tren (third time I’m running it and prior times I’ve running doses. Other times I’ve run Nabivolol because it lowers resting HR.this time around my tren is lower dosed , I’m doing an hour of cardio daily and added cardarine on cycle and still the RHR is higher. It doesn’t go up as much during lifts or cardio but just the RHR.

Anyway , I’m specifically wondering what the mechanism is for the spike, if anyone else knows

For reference, my weekly stack is below. I’ve run it pre tren and I’ve run higher doses before without much effect on RHR. I’ve also taken stimulants before for adhd and they have zero effect on my HR. (Not taking them on cycle ).

Test-u 125
Mast E 400
Deca 50
Tren hex 150

HGH 2ius daily
HCG 250 eod

Daily 60min fasted cardio
Cardarine 20mg while on tren
Telmisartan

thank you

 

[xrayphoton13]

I get the same thing running high nandrolone/NPP but didn't notice it running tren e during a recomp so I have to wonder if it's something else plus the AAS in combination causes it. Are u eating more than usual or taking stimulants? Tirz or reta? I notice my rhr is low during a low calorie diet but goes up quite a bit with high calories. It also goes up on tirz and reta along with caffeine/ephedrine which was why I asked

 

[rokkrul3r]

when I was running a gram of test I had no blood pressure problem, no edema, but my RHR was always high

I did LISS everyday, but it only dropped when I dropped my test to 500

try to switch to tren ace, long ester tren can be a bitch

 

[y777]

I get the same thing running high nandrolone/NPP but didn't notice it running tren e during a recomp so I have to wonder if it's something else plus the AAS in combination causes it. Are u eating more than usual or taking stimulants? Tirz or reta? I notice my rhr is low during a low calorie diet but goes up quite a bit with high calories. It also goes up on tirz and reta along with caffeine/ephedrine which was why I asked

No stimulants. Diet same. This is nothing new for me w tren but was just wondering why it does this

No issues with other 19nors (200-250 test with 400-500 NPP. Or 200 test + 600 deca + 800 mast e). Only tren

 

[y777]

when I was running a gram of test I had no blood pressure problem, no edema, but my RHR was always high

I did LISS everyday, but it only dropped when I dropped my test to 500

try to switch to tren ace, long ester tren can be a bitch

I hear you on test. I can’t run high test whatsoever. Most I’ve run was 500+ but typically 250-300 during blasts with DHTs but with 19nors I keep
Test at 200 or less even.

That’s interesting what you’ve said with Ace vs longer ester tren. I’ve had the RHR spike
With either. Never ran tren e. Mostly ace but now
Hex , which I am a BIG fan of now.
Need way way less of it. 150 hex feels like 300 of ace to me. Zero sides. Truly worthy of a TRT stack lol (I wish )

 

[jojozang]

我服用高浓度的诺龙/NPP 时也会出现同样的情况，但在服用重组蛋白时没有注意到服用 tren e，所以我不得不怀疑是不是其他原因加上 AAS 的组合导致了这种情况。你吃得比平时多还是服用了兴奋剂？Tirz 还是 reta？我注意到我的 rhr 在低热量饮食期间很低，但在高热量饮食时会上升很多。服用 tirz 和 reta 以及咖啡因/麻黄碱时也会上升，这就是我问的原因

 

[jojozang]

大家好

是否有人发现过 tren 为何/如何特别提高静息心率的主要机制？

在其他条件相同的情况下，服用 tren 几周后我的 RHR 为 +20 或 +30。没有其他副作用。每周 150 毫克。

服用替米沙坦后血压没有变化，睡眠良好。没有出汗。

我最初以为这与多巴胺或肾上腺素过多有关，但服用其他能促进肾上腺素或多巴胺分泌的药物（如高剂量的 primo 或 mast 甚至 winstrol）并没有产生同样的反应。即使每周服用 600 毫克的 deca 周期，我也没有出现这种情况。

每次我服用 tren 时都会发生这种情况（这是我第三次服用，之前几次我服用的是剂量）。其他时候我服用 Nabivolol，因为它可以降低静息心率。这一次我服用的 tren 剂量较低，我每天进行一小时有氧运动，并在周期中添加卡达林，但 RHR 仍然较高。在举重或有氧运动期间，它不会上升太多，只是 RHR 上升。

无论如何，我特别想知道尖峰的机制是什么，是否有人知道

作为参考，我的每周堆栈如下。我在训练前使用过它，我以前也使用过更高的剂量，但对 RHR 没有太大影响。我以前也服用过兴奋剂来治疗多动症，它们对我的 HR 没有任何影响。（不是按周期服用它们）。

测试-u 125
桅杆 E 400
德卡 50
特伦六角 150

HGH 2ius 每日
HCG 250 eod

每天 60 分钟空腹有氧运动
服用 tren 期间服用 Cardarine 20mg
替米沙坦

谢谢

我也使用 hgh，从中国供应商那里买的，价格便宜得惊人